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Trumpette is a better name for them.Steve Bannon accused of making "Nazi salute" during CPAC speech
President Donald Trump's former White House chief strategist told the crowd to "fight, fight, fight" before raising his right arm.
It wouldn't have taken you 30 seconds to find one before you shot off your excuse for it.
Aye aye aye. I was the one who first posted Melon’s arseholery and condemned it. Ive been rabbiting on about Bannon and links to actual fascism for years, versus all the blather spraying that word at everything in sight.
Fighting for air in the Magasphere. When Musk falls he'll be desperate to fill that space.
think we're deluding ourselves that Musk is going to fall anytime soon - it may happen but its far from the certainty some like to think. And the viewpoint makes it easier to dismiss him, which is also dangerous
when Jordan Barella (National Rally) thinks it was a nazi salute - it probably was amigo
Despite Musk's wealth, the ultimate authority in the USA is the commander in chief IE the President.
You might be right. And Musk has enormous amounts of money. But, Trump won't bear any idea of being subservient to Musk. Also, there will need to be a fall guy for DOGE mistakes. And Musk is not especially popular in the US. His push for skilled immigrants went down like a lead balloon with MAGA types.
See my reply to Jack.
Could be. As I said to you elsewhere and have been saying on here for some time, I think this Leninist (his description) is a fascist, but then the difference between the two is vanishingly small.
Iirc Bannon is only a Leninist in that he shares Vlads view that you have to destroy the state to build anew. I don't think he's advocating the dictatorship of the proletariat. He's definitely a conservative of some hue
ps that's not an invitation to rehash 
You've spent more time than me reading Bannon by the sounds of it so I might be wrong but I thought he was relatively pro Putin, and not a lucid critic.
I'll revisit this at some point, you might be right on the roots and thank you for the detail, but I'm not sure this populist right - neo fascist spectrum is necessarily ideologically pure nor consistent, I might also revisit the thread we looked at Ur fascism and its characteristicsActually existing neo fascism is overwhelmingly rooted in the wibble of Julius Evola - a tally neo fash from the 60s and 70s and the Strasser brothers, from the Nazi left. Evola’s doctrine is explicitly anti Christian and rooted in a pining for classical Rome and Greece. Commensurately he was labelled Antichrist by contemporary Italian church leaders. The Strassers meanwhile provide the non Marxist socialist doctrine. It would not surprise me if Ubermensch like Musk and Thiel get a bit of a chubby at the Evola part of the cocktail, but they are on a collision course with the genuine articles due the Strasserite part.
Mystifyingly to me, while pagan neo fascism is the norm, there is some crossover with people who declare an attachment to ‘traditionalist’ Catholicism, versus Evola’s traditionalism which violently repudiated Christianity’s debasement of ‘traditional’ classical values. I think Bannon may be one of these as he seems to nod in both directions, Dugin also except with Orthodoxy - I’m not sure if he’s still a satanist just to add to the confusion. (There are prior porous borders between offshoots from Orthodoxy and Slavic paganism which make it a bit easier perhaps for Zander to square his circles but this is long enough already)
More info in an old chat of ours
Lots of people want to destroy the state. Ayn Rand is just one example of a more obvious reference for someone seeking to make it on the American radical right, or Murray Rothbard or any number of others. Except he despises Rand and by extension I assume also anarcho capitalists like Muzza.
I’m deadly serious, with the specification I mean the big F Italianate form. I think Mussolini had the benefit of and applied the lessons L&T had to learn by experiment. He might have moderated it a bit, made it a little less totalitarian and a lot less murderous but it built on their template. In many ways fascism is the connecting tissue between Marxist Leninism (to its left) and social democracy (to its right).I don't know how many times you've compared fascism to socialism over the years, sometimes I think you must just be adding that in as a reflex or to wind me up
I refer you to the article in our long ago chat. It leaves me a bit bemused, because I agree that’s how he appears, and yet…well go and read it, it’s not massively long
Well it’s certainly not fascism as was, fascists aren’t intent on reducing the state. I mean it’s notoriously hard to define but that is in contradiction of perhaps its most solidly definable characteristic; nothing before the state etc. I wouldn’t get too hung up on academic definitions they are usually written by Marxist academics and it’s akin to assessing the Papacy via the lens of the Rev Paisley.
