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I noted in this a lot of people wanting a CD, bit off topic sorry about this but I am confused why people want a CD.

On the books currently are

Ryan Porteous
Rocky Bushiri
Paul Hanlon
Darren McGregor
Kyle McClelland
Jacob Blaney
Jack Brydon

Ok so 2 of them are development players but both look promising Kyle looks like is near first team already. Darren is great cover leaving 3 first team picks for 2 places as we are yet to play a back 3 under LJ he has exclusively played 2 CB. Who are we selling/getting rid off from that lot? There is more than enough cover and youth to play in too
 

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I noted in this a lot of people wanting a CD, bit off topic sorry about this but I am confused why people want a CD.

On the books currently are

Ryan Porteous
Rocky Bushiri
Paul Hanlon
Darren McGregor
Kyle McClelland
Jacob Blaney
Jack Brydon

Ok so 2 of them are development players but both look promising Kyle looks like is near first team already. Darren is great cover leaving 3 first team picks for 2 places as we are yet to play a back 3 under LJ he has exclusively played 2 CB. Who are we selling/getting rid off from that lot? There is more than enough cover and youth to play in too
We sign someone/anyone in any position and someone will rock up and say another position is more of a priority. Its as if we shouldn't sign anyone till we get a CB at the moment!

It may well be a priority but if an appropriate player in that position isn't available I'm not going to lose sleep that we've signed a better player than we've got in another position. Even if it wasn't close to a priority.

If it makes us better it makes us better.

That elusive CB, that's right for the club, might be the next signing but in the meantime we have become stronger.
 

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I noted in this a lot of people wanting a CD, bit off topic sorry about this but I am confused why people want a CD.

On the books currently are

Ryan Porteous
Rocky Bushiri
Paul Hanlon
Darren McGregor
Kyle McClelland
Jacob Blaney
Jack Brydon

Ok so 2 of them are development players but both look promising Kyle looks like is near first team already. Darren is great cover leaving 3 first team picks for 2 places as we are yet to play a back 3 under LJ he has exclusively played 2 CB. Who are we selling/getting rid off from that lot? There is more than enough cover and youth to play in too

For me a good squad needs four first team calibre centre halves. We currently have two who are fully fit, plus Hanlon who is returning from injury. We’re very much one short IMO, especially given Porteous’ disciplinary record last season and we don’t know how well Hanlon has recovered.

McGregor and the other players you listed are part of the development squad, that’s the best place for them right now. Come next summer we’ll have to at least replace Porteous so hopefully one of McClelland, Blaney or Brydon can step up.
 

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For me a good squad needs four first team calibre centre halves. We currently have two who are fully fit, plus Hanlon who is returning from injury. We’re very much one short IMO, especially given Porteous’ disciplinary record last season and we don’t know how well Hanlon has recovered.

McGregor and the other players you listed are part of the development squad, that’s the best place for them right now. Come next summer we’ll have to at least replace Porteous so hopefully one of McClelland, Blaney or Brydon can step up.
I like the sentiment, however if your signing another CB it has to be someone better than Ryan, Rocky or Paul. To do that your paying a lot on wages and a fee.. To sign a backup if foolish you will pay a player to sit on the bench or in the stand when you have Darren or Kyle who if you sign a backup your basically hampering the development of Kyle from not getting any game time as a sub or playing when needed and he is closer to first team than sitting on the dev team for a year. If we do get a stonking good CB I am all up for it but not some journeyman backup.
 
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Exactly. Injuries/ suspensions can happen to any team but getting a very good ch in so either rocky of porto plus hanlon sit on the bench im not sure is likely to happen. Great if we can afford it.
 

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I totally agree, however I can’t see Hibs addressing it this window. They’ve made a lot of signings already, the priority seems to be Boyle (or another winger) and maybe a centre half.

For me it’s the last chance for JDH or Newell to show they can consistently deliver in this role, and for Magennis to get fit enough to get back on the park. If none of that happens, serious investment will be required.

Could do worse than take a punt on McGeouch on a pay as you play deal IMO.
I'm not having a go at you here, but I always have a chuckle when I see this often mentioned option. Has anyone EVER in Scotland signed such a contract? . I can't recall one , I'm not even sure they exist.
 

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Regarding the central defender situation....Lee Johnson has already said he wants four competing for the places.
At the moment we only have two fit central defenders in Rocky Bushiri and Ryan Porteous...both right sided.
Our only left sided central defender is Paul Hanlon who played his first match for months during the week for the development team and only 45 minutes at that. Darren McGregor is semi-retired and should only be called upon in a dire emergency. Kyle McLelland was signed for the development squad as was stated by the club at the time.

The other elephant in the room is that there is still three weeks left of a transfer window which could see a bid coming in for Ryan Porteous at any time.

Undoubtedly we need another central defender in as soon as possible, and preferably a left-sided one to complete with Paul Hanlon and eventually replace him. IMO we have neglected the central defence situation for too long. Not enough proper forward planning has been done in recent years.
 

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I'm not having a go at you here, but I always have a chuckle when I see this often mentioned option. Has anyone EVER in Scotland signed such a contract? . I can't recall one , I'm not even sure they exist.

It’s not literally “pay as you play”, that’s just an easy way of putting it. In reality the contract would be a very low weekly wage with a higher than normal appearance fee bonus.

I’d say they’re fairly common in Scottish football and beyond, particularly for players on short term contracts.
 

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It’s not literally “pay as you play”, that’s just an easy way of putting it. In reality the contract would be a very low weekly wage with a higher than normal appearance fee bonus.

I’d say they’re fairly common in Scottish football and beyond, particularly for players on short term contracts.

I think Kev the Hun was on a deal like that when he came back to us.
Sure he told everyone that would listen so he seemed like some sorta hero taking a minimum weekly.
 
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I think Kev the Hun was on a deal like that when he came back to us.
Sure he told everyone that would listen so he seemed like some sorta hero taking a minimum weekly.

Aye that rings a bell, there’s been a few others other the years have been on similar.
 
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