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Mans inhumanity...

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Back home from a short break by way of a cruise to Northern Germany.
One of the excursions offered was to Bergen-Belsen.
I had seen various programmes about these places over the years and didn't expect to be that bothered by what I may find there.
Age seems to have burrowed it's way slowly into my thought processes because it affected me more than I thought it would.
When you walk through the gate there is nothing much to see.
A couple of memorials. A few headstones. Open ground mostly.
Then you wonder what the 4 foot high mounds of earth are all about.
Get closer and they're surrounded by a wall with an inscription telling you how many people are buried in each mass grave.
The museum gives you the smack in the stomach.
The photos and documents .
The artefacts .
The real killer is the film room where it shows the bodies being dragged off the wagons and dumped in the mass grave.
A grave surrounded with tons of lime which is later spread over the emaciated, diseased corpses.
Interviews with Allied troops who liberated the place. Grown men, hardened soldiers who had to stop and compose themselves.
I don't do alcohol much these days, but I did have a few when I got back to the ship.
If anything good is to be said of this, it's the fact that there were bus loads of German School kids there .
Some of those kids were quite emotional.
I know I was.
As it should be.
 

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Had similar feelings when I visited Auschwitz and Birkenau death camp in Poland.

I later purchased a book written by Mengele's assistant detailing the 'research' he took part in.
Almost unbelievable horrors.
 

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Back home from a short break by way of a cruise to Northern Germany.
One of the excursions offered was to Bergen-Belsen. ...
Some of those kids were quite emotional.
I know I was.
As it should be.
I have never been to the camps but I know several senior pupils and teaching staff who have been, including those named by Sir Shrink. It is a truly chastening experience for them, bringing home vividly the horrors of war. A personal bucket list item.
 

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I feel I should visit these places some day.Not looking forward to it.
 

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I feel I should visit these places some day.Not looking forward to it.
Belsen is not the worst place to visit, Moaty.
No buildings left. No real idea of what went on there.....until you get to the museum.
My daughter and her partner visited Sachsenhausen last year.
Ewan had to get out of the place.
My lassie said he was really upset by what he was told and what he saw.
 

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I've heard of horror stories of people taking selfies and jumping about on monuments and stuff.That would really upset me.
 

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I was with 4 other adult friends and family when visiting Auschwitz a few years back . The guide was outstandingly well informed . At the museum there, we went round it until we got to massive pile of bairns shoes which were taken off them before they were murdered. Had to leave them all, tears steaming and get some fresh air.
70 -80 million died during World War 2 I have no compunction to say that Neo Nazis when displaying Swastikas and giving their salutes should be fucking battered. I would and have.

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I feel I should visit these places some day.Not looking forward to it.
Me too. Everyone should go if they can, the more people that see the horrors that went on that are still very much in living memory the better. It would certainly give people a better perspective on life. I’m not looking forward to it either as I get quite emotional watching the documentaries and seeing the people being unloaded from the trains and knowing that most (especially the women and children) would’ve been dead within hours. It was absolutely barbaric.
 

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I was with 4 other adult friends and family when visiting Auschwitz a few years back . The guide was outstandingly well informed . At the museum there, we went round it until we got to massive pile of bairns shoes which were taken off them before they were murdered. Had to leave them all, tears steaming and get some fresh air.
70 -80 million died during World War 2 I have no compunction to say that Neo Nazis when displaying Swastikas and giving their salutes should be fucking battered. I would and have.

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Absolutely horrible mate. I’d have struggled with that as well. I had a chance to go in my early twenties when I was on holiday in Germany, they were running a tour bus over to auschwich but I didn’t go. I’m quite glad I didn’t as I will appreciate the enormity of what went on now I’m a bit older.
 

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I picked up a book recommended by @egb called The Kindly Ones, which is a fictional autobiography of a homosexual SS Officer and his ‘escapades’ in WW2.
It’s hard going at times, and frankly the brutality is unnerving, but that together with the Mengele book really brought home to me the horrors of Nazism.
 

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Similar to others I visited Auschwitz/Birkenau five years ago whilst on a city break to Krakow. Nothing can prepare you properly for that experience.
 

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