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Leith Walk tram line extension blocked by the SNP

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http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/leith-walk-tram-line-extension-blocked-by-the-snp-1-3943716

I'll leave it to the Nats on here to support this move. Perhaps they can explain why Nat Councillors in the so called 'coalition' on the Cooncil voted for compulsory redundancies (2000 people). The Scottish Government Community Charge freeze will cost the Cooncil £140,000,000. Utterly bizarre policy up there with the Scottish Governments nutty proposal for me to pay less for my flight to Tenerife.

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The tram isn't exactly seen as a success...ploughing money into while we've got folk using food banks doesn't sound great. The economic benefits seem limited. And the cost of the last grew a wee bit.

Sounds like an SNP bad rant... air flights are major for business, over 50% of all Glasgow airport flights go to the London area.

Your flight to tenerife would be a happy side effect of a plan to stimulate business ... but youre not daft and I suspect you know this .

Council tax might be a decent call but when the forced evictions come round cause folk can't afford it I'm guessing you'll not be happy about that either?

Calmac...not dodging it just don't know enough...
 

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Great minds and all big man, just sparked up
I too am grateful for the council tax freeze, seeing as I have had what is effectively a pay reduction for the last 6 yrs! But never mind that, that bloody bridge ffs.... #SNPBaaaaaaaaaaaad
Our schools are so decrepit they are literally killing our children but it's much easier to blame the English than make unpopular decisions.
 

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...also taking the worse case of each point as true... I have absolutely no confidence that any scottish party in Scotland would be better.

...strong opposition is a necessity and in the devolved parlament the UK parties LibLabCon seem hamstrung while they are at odds with there UK equivalents.

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Our schools are so decrepit they are literally killing our children but it's much easier to blame the English than make unpopular decisions.
Not a critism of your point...is that Edinburgh only. .. Glasgow has rebuilt loads?
 

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The CalMac thing had passed me by, who's telling the truth? The unions insist it doesn't have to be tendered, the govt insist it does? There must be a rule backing up one side or the other? I'd take a punt at the owner of the current franchisee being quite keen to keep it, considering they make quite the hooplah about that, Ferguson and Prestwick? But unions aren't going to ballot for strike action without genuine basis. That needs independent confirmation one or the other.


Schools, The SNP made a manifesto pledge in 08 (?) about reducing class room sizes for primary kids to 18. Stop laughing at the back. But equally, anyone living in Portobello can appreciate altering school catchments/building new schools is the ultimate nimby timebomb. Nearly impossible. Fair play at the current round of new builds though, the new Holyrood is excellent as I'm sure the new St Tams is and Porty will be too. Also a tranche of new primary schools built/being built. Specialist schools being shut too, so some not so good things.

APD. Jesting about cheap flights to Tenerife is fair game, but a reduction in costs to airlines/passengers to come to Scotland is significant. Edinburgh Airport might be a pain to go thru just now, but there is a reason for that-expansion.More planes, more jobs, more places connecting directly to/from Scotland.So it's not all about folk flying too places, but folk flying too Scotland.Tourism is essential for Scotland, we should be trying to encourage Felipe from Tenerife to come here on that very same seat Big G took the other way. Also the environmental aspect of reducing flights going via places like Heathrow should be considered.Better to get one plane to New York than two, no?
 

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Just for good balance....

Here's my honest tuppence worth being serious... Being in government brings touch choices. And I've now concluded that until our Scottish Government has full control and responsibility for all income raised and spent we are not going to get honesty and grown up politics in Scotland.
 

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Just for good balance....

Here's my honest tuppence worth being serious... Being in government brings touch choices. And I've now concluded that until our Scottish Government has full control and responsibility for all income raised and spent we are not going to get honesty and grown up politics in Scotland.
Federal UK? FUK? No chance.IMO.
 

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Our schools are so decrepit they are literally killing our children
Even for you - hyperbole much?!!!

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Just for good balance....

Here's my honest tuppence worth being serious... Being in government brings touch choices. And I've now concluded that until our Scottish Government has full control and responsibility for all income raised and spent we are not going to get honesty and grown up politics in Scotland.
Finally! You're on board! Can I count on you to doorstep with me during the next referendum?


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Just had a quick dig about re:CalMac.

Looks like according to EU directive 90/351 insists that public utilities: the energy, telecommunications, transport and water sectors are now governed by EU produrement law. Derek McKay pretty much admitted that this goverment- and all the ones preceding- opposed this legal EU requirement, but it was obligated to do so.

Further rapid google searches confirm that SERCO will prob slash jobs in the search for profits, but any holyrood govt is effectively hamstrung to allow it. East Coast rail also.

This kinda rings a bell wrt to the recent tendering of water to Anglia too. ANY govt at Holyrood would be bound by EU legislation to tender, giving ANY opposition the opportunity to snipe away.

This, along with a few other recent events kinda veers me towards voting to leave The EU.
 

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CalMac Ferry workers strike against SNP privatisation


2 July, 2015 - 09:48


RMT members employed by Caledonian MacBrayne (CalMac) staged three days of industrial action, including a one-day strike, in the last week of June.

A ballot on industrial action held the preceding month had seen a massive majority vote for action: 92% for strike action, and 98% of action short of a strike, on a 60% turnout. The vote was so overwhelming that it passed the requirements of the Tories’ new anti-union legislation.

The dispute centres of the threat to jobs, pensions and working conditions resulting from the fact that the Clyde and Hebrides ferry services, currently provided by CalMac, have been put out to tender.

Tenders are to be submitted by December, with the result announced in May of next year.

Apart from CalMac, the international business-outsourcing company Serco is also bidding for the eight-year contract for the ferry services and the £1 billion a year funding that goes with it.

In 2012 Serco beat CalMac to win the contract for the Northern Isles ferry services – and then promptly attacked staffing levels and the pensions and terms and conditions of employment of the CalMac employees transferred into Serco.

Serco also recently took over the Caledonian Sleeper rail service from Scotland to London in another tendering process run by the SNP Scottish government (which also saw Scottish domestic rail services handed over to Abellio).

The RMT, to which around half of CalMac’s 1,400 workforce belongs, is demanding guarantees that, whoever wins the Clyde and Hebrides contract, there will be no compulsory redundancies, and pensions and terms and conditions of employment will be preserved.

The SNP government – which is overseeing the tendering process, as well as being the sole shareholder in David MacBrayne Ltd., of which CalMac is a subsidiary – has repeatedly refused to give such assurances.

Instead, its Transport Minister, David Mackay, has claimed that the tendering process – despite the risk of Serco winning the contract – does not amount to privatisation!

As RMT General Secretary Mick Cash responded: “It is extraordinary that rather than standing up for Scotland’s lifeline ferry services, those who hold political power have resorted to ludicrous arguments about what does and doesn’t represent privatisation.”

The SNP government has also claimed that EU rules oblige it to periodically put Scottish ferry services out to tender, although transport unions and the Scottish TUC have consistently argued that this is not the case.

With no movement from the SNP government in response to the RMT ballot result, RMT members staged a two-day work-to-rule followed by a 24-hour strike in the last week of June.

SNP Deputy First Minister praised Calmac’s response to the strike, saying that it had done a “commendable job” in allegedly ensuring there were sufficient services to carry 40% of normal passenger capacity during the strike.

The TSSA, which claims to represent around a hundred CalMac office staff, is currently also balloting its members.

The RMT’s industrial action also triggered a statement from the SNP Trade Union Group, which largely consisted of a series of homilies about good working conditions and the role of the SNP government in standing up for Scotland’s interests in Europe.

The response from the RMT was brief and to the point:

"This statement from a group claiming to represent trade unionists makes not a single mention of support for fellow trade unionists battling to defend jobs and services.

Instead, it hides behind a barrage of EU anti-worker legislation that has no relevance at all to this dispute and which could be challenged anyway with a united campaign.

You can't claim to be anti-austerity, pro-working-class and pro-public-services and then duck the issue when jobs and services are under all-out attack like on CalMac. The question to the SNP TU Group is: which side are you o‎n?"

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By the way the RMT are not affiliated to the Labour Party and do not back it financially.

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hope even your no' trying tae blame the SNP for this one G. EU directive that a government of any persuasion wid be legally bound tae conform tae
 

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This, along with a few other recent events kinda veers me towards voting to leave The EU.
I don't think it will take much to get others, particularly in Scotland, thinking the same way. I actually have a feeling that to a certain extent the EU IN/Out battle lines will be redrawn, with In seeming increasingly like the choice of business and centralists who want to dominate small countries. If that happens I can even see a scenario - remote, but possible - where Scotland votes to leave and rUk opts to stay. I wonder what would happen then.
 

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I don't think it will take much to get others, particularly in Scotland, thinking the same way. I actually have a feeling that to a certain extent the EU IN/Out battle lines will be redrawn, with In seeming increasingly like the choice of business and centralists who want to dominate small countries. If that happens I can even see a scenario - remote, but possible - where Scotland votes to leave and rUk opts to stay. I wonder what would happen then.
I'll eat my hat Henry.

I think I was probably about as pro european as you could be up until recently.I liked the idea of being an indy Scotland within a EU set up.To a degree I still do.But these tendering rules are ridiculous, TTiP is dreadful, the handling of the immigrant disaster is/was bad, the move to the right in places like Hungary looks well dodgy, and the political situation in Portugal was undemocratic and yet fully acceptable to Brussels it seems to me?
 

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I'll eat my hat Henry.

I think I was probably about as pro european as you could be up until recently.I liked the idea of being an indy Scotland within a EU set up.To a degree I still do.But these tendering rules are ridiculous, TTiP is dreadful, the handling of the immigrant disaster is/was bad, the move to the right in places like Hungary looks well dodgy, and the political situation in Portugal was undemocratic and yet fully acceptable to Brussels it seems to me?
Haha, well just a few months ago I'd have eaten my hat. But I reckon a lot more will start to see things your way. The Greece situation - and the other stuff you point out - changed a lot of people's minds about the EU.

Previously I thought the anti-EU drive would have been a bunch of stale Ukip types and fringe tories rattling on about the queen, but I now feel we are going to see a campaign that's a lot more 'positive' and varied politically. They will have learned a lot from the Yes campaign in Scotland as well. No had to defend a pretty stale, easily criticised status quo against 'change', and the In message will have to do the same.
 

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...also taking the worse case of each point as true... I have absolutely no confidence that any scottish party in Scotland would be better.

...strong opposition is a necessity and in the devolved parlament the UK parties LibLabCon seem hamstrung while they are at odds with there UK equivalents.

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Not a critism of your point...is that Edinburgh only. .. Glasgow has rebuilt loads?
So has Edinburgh.

The school i work at has also just been granted the build of a brand new gym hall at the cost i believe £250,000 that will be a great addition towards the kids education.

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Are you aware of how this wall happened to collapse?
 

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Haha, well just a few months ago I'd have eaten my hat. But I reckon a lot more will start to see things your way. The Greece situation - and the other stuff you point out - changed a lot of people's minds about the EU.

Previously I thought the anti-EU drive would have been a bunch of stale Ukip types and fringe tories rattling on about the queen, but I now feel we are going to see a campaign that's a lot more 'positive' and varied politically. They will have learned a lot from the Yes campaign in Scotland as well. No had to defend a pretty stale, easily criticised status quo against 'change', and the In message will have to do the same.
The problem facing the 'out' brigade is no political party to back it.Tories won't officially, neither will Labour or SNP. They'll have no machine behind them. 'In' will win by plenty imo.
 

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The problem facing the 'out' brigade is no political party to back it.Tories won't officially, neither will Labour or SNP. They'll have no machine behind them. 'In' will win by plenty imo.
True. Although the leader of the Labour Party apparently backs it.

I'm not saying everyone's suddenly going to start wanting to get out, just that I think the constituency that eventually makes up the Out vote, and the means by which it gets there, might be rather different than I - and I think quite a few others - originally thought.
 

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I think the EU is a wonderful thing that's got a wee bit carried away with its own importance. I agree with those who suggest a change, possibly a step change, in the way it operates is essential and not just for the UK.

We'll see how the Torys get on with that.

The one thing I doubt we'll see is a change to the directive that put public utilities out to tender. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that was a Tory proposal that originally brought that about ;-)
 

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Our schools are so decrepit they are literally killing our children but it's much easier to blame the English than make unpopular decisions.
Whilst I realise there was a tragedy with the girl in Edinburgh,was it just that school or are all Edinburgh schools in poor condition?
Where I live all the high schools have been re built and I can look out my window and watch the new primary school on Cowie being built
 

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I'll eat my hat Henry.

I think I was probably about as pro european as you could be up until recently.I liked the idea of being an indy Scotland within a EU set up.To a degree I still do.But these tendering rules are ridiculous, TTiP is dreadful, the handling of the immigrant disaster is/was bad, the move to the right in places like Hungary looks well dodgy, and the political situation in Portugal was undemocratic and yet fully acceptable to Brussels it seems to me?
Pretty much describes my thoughts too
 

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