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Pistol1981....

Just A Radge
Yesterday was pish, it was torture.
But, I find the criticism of JR embarrassing.He doesn’t coach Porto to pass to opponents on the edge of our box. He doesn’t I’m sure, suggest to Irvine and Newell that they should disappear in parts. Let’s not forget, Lennon left us with a poorer team than he inherited. Our team is made up of journeymen and youngsters.
What makes a good player a great player is usually consistency. Great players produce every week. The SPL is full of good players, if they were great, they quite simply wouldn’t be here for longer than a season. I agree, Hibs should comfortably have 3rd place tied up, and our cup draws have been favourable, but we were a Nisbet penalty , and Murphy tap in , away from being in two finals. JR basically picks the team most people would most match days. He gives youth a shot, and appears to have a happy squad.
The mentality around ER has been beyond poor for my whole 50 years, with relegations and numerous bottom half of the table finishes. For Hibs fans to react , like this is all at JR door is baffling. Where the fuck have they been?
Our current talisman was signed from Forest Green fucking Rovers ffs.
I am not some happy clapper. I want the best for Hibs, I regularly criticise all aspects of our club, and I am driven mad by our lack of belief and achievements.
Sadly, great managers or players are not banging on our door wanting in , and any inside who flourish, just bang on the door wanting out.
I think Hibs fans should back JR, there are signs IMO we are heading in the right direction.
I agree with everything you say but the one question I have is , why has the mentality been so bad for 50 years ?? Why are we a club based on sentiment ?? It is a disgrace that the club is run like that.. Most recently we have handed out 4 year contracts to David Gray and Darren McGregor , both who are finished. Lewis Stevenson got a new deal because he is a nice guy and does shit loads for charity.. Paul Hanlon will get a extension because he loves the club..

We have a midfield where Jackson Irvine was training on a public park for 6 months so that's all you need to know regarding what the footballing world thinks of his ablilty.. Joe Newell has been guff for 2 seasons , decides he wants to play for the first half of this season when his deal expires in a year , he then gets a new deal and then goes back to being guff again...... Both of these guys go AWOL in every game where the going gets tough and offer very little in creativity and goals..

Back Jack Ross I agree as we are moving in the right direction but the sentimental wee souls that run our club need to be moved on and sentiment needs to be taken out of the equation when offering players new deals...
 

Hattie

Donator
I agree with everything you say but the one question I have is , why has the mentality been so bad for 50 years ?? Why are we a club based on sentiment ?? It is a disgrace that the club is run like that.. Most recently we have handed out 4 year contracts to David Gray and Darren McGregor , both who are finished. Lewis Stevenson got a new deal because he is a nice guy and does shit loads for charity.. Paul Hanlon will get a extension because he loves the club..

We have a midfield where Jackson Irvine was training on a public park for 6 months so that's all you need to know regarding what the footballing world thinks of his ablilty.. Joe Newell has been guff for 2 seasons , decides he wants to play for the first half of this season when his deal expires in a year , he then gets a new deal and then goes back to being guff again.... Both of these guys go AWOL in every game where the going gets tough and offer very little in creativity and goals..

Back Jack Ross I agree as we are moving in the right direction but the sentimental wee souls that run our club need to be moved on and sentiment needs to be taken out of the equation when offering players new deals...
Without going into all yer pish. Lewis Stevenson is s great squad player. If you think we dont need players like that in the squad, you mustn’t realise its fuckin Hibs you follow, we are not overloaded with cash. Who would you have as a back up to JD? And if it’s a big player, then whats the point of bringing through young laddies ffs
 

Rocky

Well-Known Radge
I agree with everything you say but the one question I have is , why has the mentality been so bad for 50 years ?? Why are we a club based on sentiment ?? It is a disgrace that the club is run like that..
If the mentality has been bad for 50 years there can only be one answer and it ain't managers, owners, board members or players because they change regularly. The only constant is the fan base. Maybe we have too many torn faces who are passing down negativity from generation to generation? Who don't understand what "supporter" means and are never happier than when booing and moaning about their team?
 

Pistol1981....

Just A Radge
Without going into all yer pish. Lewis Stevenson is s great squad player. If you think we dont need players like that in the squad, you mustn’t realise its fuckin Hibs you follow, we are not overloaded with cash. Who would you have as a back up to JD? And if it’s a big player, then whats the point of bringing through young laddies ffs
Have you forgotten about Sean Mackie ???
 

tayside hibee

Well-Known Radge
I agree with everything you say but the one question I have is , why has the mentality been so bad for 50 years ?? Why are we a club based on sentiment ?? It is a disgrace that the club is run like that.. Most recently we have handed out 4 year contracts to David Gray and Darren McGregor , both who are finished. Lewis Stevenson got a new deal because he is a nice guy and does shit loads for charity.. Paul Hanlon will get a extension because he loves the club..

We have a midfield where Jackson Irvine was training on a public park for 6 months so that's all you need to know regarding what the footballing world thinks of his ablilty.. Joe Newell has been guff for 2 seasons , decides he wants to play for the first half of this season when his deal expires in a year , he then gets a new deal and then goes back to being guff again.... Both of these guys go AWOL in every game where the going gets tough and offer very little in creativity and goals..

Back Jack Ross I agree as we are moving in the right direction but the sentimental wee souls that run our club need to be moved on and sentiment needs to be taken out of the equation when offering players new deals...
I also see truth in what you say.
Let’s start with Lewis and Paul H . Have we had better players in their positions who could remove them? I think not. As it happens , I have always thought we have played PH in the wrong position his whole career. He is not , an aggressive SPL centre half, he is an intelligent defensive midfielder,
SDG and Darren Mc deserved to be rewarded for their part in bringing us the holy grail , and for pulling us from biggest depression we have encountered in my 50 years. They can still remind players who join the club, just exactly what they are joining. I would give them a wage for life , unless they could no longer be of an benefit to us. I can’t think of two better people to be about the club to encourage youngsters and remind them how lucky they are to be part of it.
 

hibbybilly

radge grandad radge
I also see truth in what you say.
Let’s start with Lewis and Paul H . Have we had better players in their positions who could remove them? I think not. As it happens , I have always thought we have played PH in the wrong position his whole career. He is not , an aggressive SPL centre half, he is an intelligent defensive midfielder,
SDG and Darren Mc deserved to be rewarded for their part in bringing us the holy grail , and for pulling us from biggest depression we have encountered in my 50 years. They can still remind players who join the club, just exactly what they are joining. I would give them a wage for life , unless they could no longer be of an benefit to us. I can’t think of two better people to be about the club to encourage youngsters and remind them how lucky they are to be part of it.
Mibbes could have tried him there on Saturday tae see if he wid be a good replacement for Gogic against DU. ?
 

Pistol1981....

Just A Radge
I also see truth in what you say.
Let’s start with Lewis and Paul H . Have we had better players in their positions who could remove them? I think not. As it happens , I have always thought we have played PH in the wrong position his whole career. He is not , an aggressive SPL centre half, he is an intelligent defensive midfielder,
SDG and Darren Mc deserved to be rewarded for their part in bringing us the holy grail , and for pulling us from biggest depression we have encountered in my 50 years. They can still remind players who join the club, just exactly what they are joining. I would give them a wage for life , unless they could no longer be of an benefit to us. I can’t think of two better people to be about the club to encourage youngsters and remind them how lucky they are to be part of it.
That is the problem though regarding Hanlon and Stevenson , nobody has been given the chance to replace them and when I mean a chance , I mean the amount of opportunities like Josh Doig has. Callum crane was given one start against Forres and that was it.. Mackie was discarded after a disasterous collective team performance at Ibrox..

Why should any player be rewarded for anything ?? That is the sentiment problem I stated in my first post.. David Gray's injury record is brutal and Darren McGregor is at the end of his career, yet we hand them out four year contracts which will ship thousands out of the club.. utter madnessin my book..,, These guys are taking up a wage and stopping the club pushing forward and investing in other areas..
 

Hammi

Top radge
Admin
That is the problem though regarding Hanlon and Stevenson , nobody has been given the chance to replace them and when I mean a chance , I mean the amount of opportunities like Josh Doig has. Callum crane was given one start against Forres and that was it.. Mackie was discarded after a disasterous collective team performance at Ibrox..

Why should any player be rewarded for anything ?? That is the sentiment problem I stated in my first post.. David Gray's injury record is brutal and Darren McGregor is at the end of his career, yet we hand them out four year contracts which will ship thousands out of the club.. utter madnessin my book..,, These guys are taking up a wage and stopping the club pushing forward and investing in other areas..


Sir David and Darren have been given contracts beyond their playing days.
It's not a 4 year full term contract.

And there have been umpteen central defenders and left backs come through the club and try to displace the pair of them, where are they now?
Nowhere.
 

Pistol1981....

Just A Radge
Sir David and Darren have been given contracts beyond their playing days.
It's not a 4 year full term contract.

And there have been umpteen central defenders and left backs come through the club and try to displace the pair of them, where are they now?
Nowhere.
Nonsense .,, Lewis Stevenson has only been playing LB full time since Alan Stubbs arrived at the ckub. In that time, the only players who competed for the position was Callum Crane and the boy Miquel Nelom who was here for a long period..
 

Pistol1981....

Just A Radge
Oh ffs are you for real? Cant be arsed with your pish.
Yes.. Ok then if I am talking pish then why has he been overlooked constantly for an international call up.. He's been around a lot longer than Andy Robertson and Kieran Tierney have been and who I might add all played in the same division as Lewis.. .

i will now ask you again for a second time , Why has there been no interest for him from bigger and better clubs if he is as good as people say he is ???
 

Rocky

Well-Known Radge
Yes.. Ok then if I am talking pish then why has he been overlooked constantly for an international call up.. He's been around a lot longer than Andy Robertson and Kieran Tierney have been and who I might add all played in the same division as Lewis.. .

i will now ask you again for a second time , Why has there been no interest for him from bigger and better clubs if he is as good as people say he is ???
Um, do you know that Lewis isn't the first choice left back at Hibs now?
 

Hattie

Donator
Yes.. Ok then if I am talking pish then why has he been overlooked constantly for an international call up.. He's been around a lot longer than Andy Robertson and Kieran Tierney have been and who I might add all played in the same division as Lewis.. .

i will now ask you again for a second time , Why has there been no interest for him from bigger and better clubs if he is as good as people say he is ???
Show us all where i said he was international class? Your argument is all over the place, adding things that is completely irrelevant.
 

Bossie

Well-Known Radge
Show us all where i said he was international class? Your argument is all over the place, adding things that is completely irrelevant.
I heard recently that the huns were keen on Stevenson when Stubbs was manager.
 

sockyboy

Just A Radge
Yes.. Ok then if I am talking pish then why has he been overlooked constantly for an international call up.. He's been around a lot longer than Andy Robertson and Kieran Tierney have been and who I might add all played in the same division as Lewis.. .

i will now ask you again for a second time , Why has there been no interest for him from bigger and better clubs if he is as good as people say he is ???
So if a player isn't given regular international games they're pish?
 
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