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Gareth

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Person one: "All English people are tories"
Person two: "They're not actually. In fact attitudes are broadly similar - and equally broad - across both countries."
Person three: "Actually although attitudes are similar, behaviour conflicts blah blah"

Thanks for your input, I guess.
Wasnt hard to understand or too abstract then was it you tube
 

Gareth

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In posts 104 and 107 you accused me of using marxism as a term of abuse, which I didn't and now your calling Henry L B a tube because he has a different opinion to you. Hmm
a. you were using marxism as a term of abuse, without even understanding what marxism is
b. i didn't call henry a tube because he disagreed with me, he and i disagree on all political things. I called him a tube because he was deliberately pretending not to understand my post, a post that he clearly does understand as he makes clear in his last post.
 

paigntonhibby

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a. you were using marxism as a term of abuse, without even understanding what marxism is
b. i didn't call henry a tube because he disagreed with me, he and i disagree on all political things. I called him a tube because he was deliberately pretending not to understand my post, a post that he clearly does understand as he makes clear in his last post.
"I've got no time for blinkered Marxist ideology or right wing conservative ideology" hardly abuse.
 

Gareth

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"I've got no time for blinkered Marxist ideology or right wing conservative ideology" hardly abuse.
Preceded by something about me, Big G, Karl Marx and the Canary. Be honest, you used the term Marxism in a pejorative way, and have not refuted my suggestions that you don't understand what it is, which kind of strengthens my point. Why use a term you clearly don't understand about people you don't agree with if not in a pejorative way?
 

paigntonhibby

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Preceded by something about me, Big G, Karl Marx and the Canary. Be honest, you used the term Marxism in a pejorative way, and have not refuted my suggestions that you don't understand what it is, which kind of strengthens my point. Why use a term you clearly don't understand about people you don't agree with if not in a pejorative way?
Still not abuse by any stretch of the imagination and the point I was making ,which you well know was what would you ,big G or Karl Marx do differently to come up with an alternative instead of just slagging everybody else off.
 

Gareth

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Still not abuse by any stretch of the imagination and the point I was making ,which you well know was what would you ,big G or Karl Marx do differently to come up with an alternative instead of just slagging everybody else off.
Term of abuse just means using it pejoratively, not sure why you're getting so hung up on that. And as I said, I hadn't slagged anyone off at that point, which I'm happy to do as this incompetent bungling elitist mess of a British government have caused thousands of lives.
 

paigntonhibby

Bounce Radge
Term of abuse just means using it pejoratively, not sure why you're getting so hung up on that. And as I said, I hadn't slagged anyone off at that point, which I'm happy to do as this incompetent bungling elitist mess of a British government have caused thousands of lives.
I'm not getting hung up on anything, just thought it was a bit off after accusing me of being abusive you called somebody else a tube
 

HenryLB

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Wasnt hard to understand or too abstract then was it you tube
I didn't say it was hard to understand. I said it was hard to understand why you wrote it, given its lack of relevance.

It's really not worth getting upset about though, so let's just say I've picked you up wrong - for which I apologise - and leave it there.
 

GORDONSMITH7

**** The Hearts
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Still not abuse by any stretch of the imagination and the point I was making ,which you well know was what would you ,big G or Karl Marx do differently to come up with an alternative instead of just slagging everybody else off.
You can still be utterly opposed to 'blinkered Marxist ideology', even if I think you have little idea what that actually means amigo, bar anti Left sloganism. Here's a very wee leg up. Pretty basic stuff however. The Corbyn and his Marxist Labour Party Manifesto position is utterly ridiculous as Gareth has pointed out and shows that this particular trope, one of many including anti-Semitism, by the billionaire owned MSM, Tory and Right wing Labour MP's, Labour Party Blairite beaurocrats conspiring to prevent a Labour Government, obviously got through to many. However Keir Starmer's ridiculous campaign for a second Brexit Referendum cost Labour dearly in Northern Labour Brexit seats. Not mentioned now. Airbrushed.

These may bore your pants off amigo , there is no shortcut to understanding mate, however may give you a glimpse of what Marxism is about and not the stereotypes you have. Watch Tony and reject the ideas at will. At least you can reject out of hand objectively. Grab some beers.

Regards


BIG G


Marxist economics and the crisis of capitalism

Marxism, Keynesianism, and Modern Monetary Theory
 
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aggie

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You can still be utterly opposed to 'blinkered Marxist ideology', even if I think you have little idea what that actually means amigo, bar anti Left sloganism. Here's a very wee leg up. Pretty basic stuff however. The Corbyn and his Marxist Labour Party Manifesto position is utterly ridiculous as Gareth has pointed out and shows that this particular trope, one of many including anti-Semitism, by the billionaire owned MSM, Tory and Right wing Labour MP's, Labour Party Blairite beaurocrats conspiring to prevent a Labour Government, obviously got through to many. However Keir Starmer's ridiculous campaign for a second Brexit Referendum cost Labour dearly in Northern Labour Brexit seats. Not mentioned now. Airbrushed.

These may bore your pants off amigo , there is no shortcut to understanding mate, however may give you a glimpse of what Marxism is about and not the stereotypes you have. Watch Tony and reject the ideas at will. At least you can reject out of hand objectively. Grab some beers.

Regards


BIG G


Marxist economics and the crisis of capitalism

Marxism, Keynesianism, and Modern Monetary Theory
It's not obvious to me quite how the labour theory of value, for example, applies to the commodification of data by the tech oligopoly (which furthermore becomes both a commodity and a currency).
 

Jack

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I think the administrators should insist that posts be written in English, or as close as some can get to it lol.

Even Shrinky managed to keep txt spk at a peep for long enough - although I notice he's relented a little recently.
 

paigntonhibby

Bounce Radge
You can still be utterly opposed to 'blinkered Marxist ideology', even if I think you have little idea what that actually means amigo, bar anti Left sloganism. Here's a very wee leg up. Pretty basic stuff however. The Corbyn and his Marxist Labour Party Manifesto position is utterly ridiculous as Gareth has pointed out and shows that this particular trope, one of many including anti-Semitism, by the billionaire owned MSM, Tory and Right wing Labour MP's, Labour Party Blairite beaurocrats conspiring to prevent a Labour Government, obviously got through to many. However Keir Starmer's ridiculous campaign for a second Brexit Referendum cost Labour dearly in Northern Labour Brexit seats. Not mentioned now. Airbrushed.

These may bore your pants off amigo , there is no shortcut to understanding mate, however may give you a glimpse of what Marxism is about and not the stereotypes you have. Watch Tony and reject the ideas at will. At least you can reject out of hand objectively. Grab some beers.

Regards


BIG G


Marxist economics and the crisis of capitalism

Marxism, Keynesianism, and Modern Monetary Theory
Gordon my friend, please give me your take on the difference between Marxism and socialism in layman's terms. One thing I will quote " from each according to his ability to each according to his need" Marxism. People will be compensated based on their level of individual contribution to the economy, socialism. My take on this, "no matter how hard you work once you reach a certain economic level any extra will be taken from you and given to those who dont work as hard as you" Marxism
"The harder you work the greater the reward " Socialism. Marxists also see socialism as just a step on the way to communism.
 
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