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Hmm, the implication of the latest email and the piece in EEN by Charlie Reid seems to be that their favoured option is to use funds to buy shares from other shareholders. It does also suggest that we'll have an option to choose where our individual contributions get directed (share purchase / playing budget / infrastructure).

I personally think we need to know more about Ron's intentions before forming a view on the best options for HSL. If he intends to put money into the club on an ongoing basis then I'm quite happy to continue contributions. However if he's not, then I'd want to be sure that any money I put in is being used purely for the revenue budget, not for capital expenditure. Otherwise I feel like I'd be putting money in to increase the value of his investment.

Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way and in reality the value of his investment will never increase, but I do feel that if there's any chance he will ultimately profit from his ownership of Hibs then he should either be looking to personally match any contribution from HSL, or he should be making shares available to HSL in return for whatever contributions are made.

Haven't seen Charlie's piece, but I don't really see the point in buying shares from other shareholders. The club won't benefit in any way, and nor will HSL other than to make incremental gain on the shareholding. Sill wouldn't be material in my view.
I've got shares, and I'm keeping them!
I see Rocky's point about contributing to the infrastructure meaning a gain for Ron (or any other shareholder who may sell in the future - I won't!) and for that reason I'll be sending my contribution to the 'player pool' option.

I hope that choice is exercised by as many Hibs fans as possible so that we can continue our bid to challenge at the very top.


That's my view today anyway.
 

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Haven't seen Charlie's piece, but I don't really see the point in buying shares from other shareholders. The club won't benefit in any way, and nor will HSL other than to make incremental gain on the shareholding. Sill wouldn't be material in my view.
I've got shares, and I'm keeping them!
I see Rocky's point about contributing to the infrastructure meaning a gain for Ron (or any other shareholder who may sell in the future - I won't!) and for that reason I'll be sending my contribution to the 'player pool' option.

I hope that choice is exercised by as many Hibs fans as possible so that we can continue our bid to challenge at the very top.


That's my view today anyway.
Sir Shrink

I do hope you will come along to one of our Meetings, would love to meet you.

As your post highlights you will be deciding where your money goes. Indeed the purpose of the Meetings is to take feedback from you and all of your fellow Members as this entity known as Hibernian Supporters Ltd is yours, not some imaginary character.

The other thing is that we hope to be able to help our Members understand more about how things operate in general so that everyone is better informed. With a little luck we might be able to convince the Club to lay on a cup of tea.

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Sir Shrink

I do hope you will come along to one of our Meetings, would love to meet you.

As your post highlights you will be deciding where your money goes. Indeed the purpose of the Meetings is to take feedback from you and all of your fellow Members as this entity known as Hibernian Supporters Ltd is yours, not some imaginary character.

The other thing is that we hope to be able to help our Members understand more about how things operate in general so that everyone is better informed. With a little luck we might be able to convince the Club to lay on a cup of tea.

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A cup of tea!!!!!!

I got two pies at the last AGM (I hadn't had my tea) so I reckon with the new owner on board the least we can expect is a slice of Apple Pie.

Or maybe a hotdog or some mac and cheese.
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What's happening with the names on the strip scheme?

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HSL needs rebranding from top to bottom. We need to know what is happening and will the people who ran or are still running HSL still be doing it. A complete new infrastructure is needed. Having people on both the clubs board and HSL board left a lot to be desired as they somewhere along the line must have had a conflict of interest. A vote by members to whom they want to run HSL or what ever it gets called now must be done ASAP a complete new board who will take it forward in the future.
 

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A cup of tea!!!!!!

I got two pies at the last AGM (I hadn't had my tea) so I reckon with the new owner on board the least we can expect is a slice of Apple Pie.

Or maybe a hotdog or some mac and cheese.
:54:
I will pass it on.

As the Minister said, I am but your humble servant ( don't take that the wrong way ).

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HSL needs rebranding from top to bottom. We need to know what is happening and will the people who ran or are still running HSL still be doing it. A complete new infrastructure is needed. Having people on both the clubs board and HSL board left a lot to be desired as they somewhere along the line must have had a conflict of interest. A vote by members to whom they want to run HSL or what ever it gets called now must be done ASAP a complete new board who will take it forward in the future.
Gobragh

This is why we are having Consultation Meetings, to take on board views.

In case you hadn't noticed we have a democratic structure that facilitates elections. Rest assured, if the view of our Members is that they want their current Directors to stand down, so be it.

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Gobragh

This is why we are having Consultation Meetings, to take on board views.

In case you hadn't noticed we have a democratic structure that facilitates elections. Rest assured, if the view of our Members is that they want their current Directors to stand down, so be it.

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Hi Jim

Are these meetings members only or can those who are considering joining also come along?

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Gobragh

This is why we are having Consultation Meetings, to take on board views.

In case you hadn't noticed we have a democratic structure that facilitates elections. Rest assured, if the view of our Members is that they want their current Directors to stand down, so be it.

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What's happening with the names on the strip scheme?

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Yes, got the same communication. Looks like they are going to liaise with Sunnyside?
Seems a lot of things are going through HSA. I wonder why.
 

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Seems a lot of things are going through HSA. I wonder why.
My reading of the email was just that HSL were going to have a chat with the HSA guys and gals. Seems reasonable that they take on board the views of the registered supporters groups?
I’m not a member, but I feel ST Pats has a close affinity with the Bounce so I’m sure we will hear all about it.
 

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Am I right in thinking the only way HSL can get to the 25% mark is if they buy shares held by minority shareholders (like me) as there are no new shares to purchase? I know nothing about shares and I want to keep mine but would be happy to sign over my voting rights to HSL so you have the comfort that my shares would vote the same way as HSL and HSL doesn't need to spend money buying my shares. If enough of the others did the same you would have the 25% voting block. Too simple??
 

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Am I right in thinking the only way HSL can get to the 25% mark is if they buy shares held by minority shareholders (like me) as there are no new shares to purchase? I know nothing about shares and I want to keep mine but would be happy to sign over my voting rights to HSL so you have the comfort that my shares would vote the same way as HSL and HSL doesn't need to spend money buying my shares. If enough of the others did the same you would have the 25% voting block. Too simple??
Don't do yourself down mate. You're not simple at all.

I'm of pretty similar mind (maybe we're both simple) inasmuch as I'm keeping my shares. I don't want money for them, I just want to keep them.
If it comes to any major problems in future as happened with Wallets Mercenary I'm pretty sure you and I would be on the side of HSL anyway, so the only shares worth purchasing to add weight to the 'Hibs fans' vote would be those held by 'unknown' investors, whoever they are.
 

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Don't do yourself down mate. You're not simple at all.

I'm of pretty similar mind (maybe we're both simple) inasmuch as I'm keeping my shares. I don't want money for them, I just want to keep them.
If it comes to any major problems in future as happened with Wallets Mercenary I'm pretty sure you and I would be on the side of HSL anyway, so the only shares worth purchasing to add weight to the 'Hibs fans' vote would be those held by 'unknown' investors, whoever they are.
Aye and if Ron Gordon turned into that type I would just donate my shares to HSL as I'm sure a lot would do if that helped block him.
 

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You wouldn't need to, you'd just have to vote with them.
But I agree the sentiment - that's probably how we both bought shares in the first place.
 

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You wouldn't need to, you'd just have to vote with them.
But I agree the sentiment - that's probably how we both bought shares in the first place.
Yip and to own a tiny piece of Hibs I can pass on to my Daughter.
 

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I'm with the simpletons. And so would my daughter.

Between the 4 of us I still suspect we have less than a brick. :giggley:
 

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A cup of tea!!!!!!

I got two pies at the last AGM (I hadn't had my tea) so I reckon with the new owner on board the least we can expect is a slice of Apple Pie.

Or maybe a hotdog or some mac and cheese.
:54:
You are obviously not on a diet.


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What's happening with the names on the strip scheme?

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Progressing as planned. We are still trying to establish from the Club the final cut off point so that we can at least get that information out there.


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Hi Jim

Are these meetings members only or can those who are considering joining also come along?

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We think the Meeting at the HSA will be open to all, by that I mean all Members of the HSA but no doubt they will clarify that. We are their guests.

We trust you will understand that the other Meetings are for our own Members/contributors only.

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