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of having 3 full teams of first team players after Gullan leaves.
We have a remarkable 32 first team players.

Almost Hearts squad levels of players after struggling for players during the 1st half of this season.

What's changed?
Answer - 4 new players, 2 retrievals from loan and 3 back from injury.
1 more player and we have added a whole outfield team.

Competition is going to be fierce for places for the rest of the season then a load of players will leave in the summer.

Still no news of new clubs for Gogic and Allan or photographs of Daz in his slippers and smoking jacket?
 

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It's all changing up at Hibernian for the 2nd half of the season.

2 dry runs against Celtic & Cove before setting phasers to malcay against Motherwell.
 

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I think there’s about half a dozen of those that are possibly still considered development players. Prior to RG we did try to have a first team squad of 23 with development cover for each position with varying success.

I wouldn’t surprised to see a couple of departures, too.

Maybe carrying an extra couple of bodies to the summer as we try to fix the squad balance for how SM wants us to play?
 

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Think we’ll see a bit of a clear out in the development too, the likes of Innes Murray and Sean Mackie who haven’t made a breakthrough but I suspect a few others will join them if there’s no sign they will make that breakthrough.

Every year there’s more players coming through, so holding onto players at 21,22,23 that haven’t shown or been given a chance just blocks the pathway. Interested to see what Steve Kean does to address that.
 

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Think we’ll see a bit of a clear out in the development too, the likes of Innes Murray and Sean Mackie who haven’t made a breakthrough but I suspect a few others will join them if there’s no sign they will make that breakthrough.

Every year there’s more players coming through, so holding onto players at 21,22,23 that haven’t shown or been given a chance just blocks the pathway. Interested to see what Steve Kean does to address that.
I didn't count Innes Murray because he is out on loan.
Innes won't be back.

Mackie is running out of time.
We haven't been told he is available for selection yet but I think he may be very close.
Like everyone else Maloney will assess him and if he can impress him and stay fit they might offer him another half season deal.
The guy has ability but he has to avoid further injury to stand any chance.
Has had the same injury on both legs now so hopefully the conditioning work will prevent recurrence.
 

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I think there’s about half a dozen of those that are possibly still considered development players. Prior to RG we did try to have a first team squad of 23 with development cover for each position with varying success.

I wouldn’t surprised to see a couple of departures, too.

Maybe carrying an extra couple of bodies to the summer as we try to fix the squad balance for how SM wants us to play?
Bradley is probably the only one I would see as a development player in that he is the only young guy in the first team squad who has come through the youth ranks. He is 20 in March with a contract that expires in the summer so another guy that has to impress Maloney now he is back in the building.
It's tough for young players to get game time at our level rather than at the bottom 6 clubs.
 

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Think we’ll see a bit of a clear out in the development too, the likes of Innes Murray and Sean Mackie who haven’t made a breakthrough but I suspect a few others will join them if there’s no sign they will make that breakthrough.

Every year there’s more players coming through, so holding onto players at 21,22,23 that haven’t shown or been given a chance just blocks the pathway. Interested to see what Steve Kean does to address that.
If only it was that easy. Every young player develops at different rates physically and as a player.
Make a decision to move a young player on too early and you can easily lose out. Football history is littered with loads of players who were moved on from clubs as youngsters because they were considered too small to make it only to go on a growth spurt and make it elsewhere.
Hibs approach hasn't seen us move along young development players who have gone on to make it big whereas Hearts moved along the likes of Jason Cummings and Josh Doig. That was probably about £2.5 million worth of mistakes right there.
Steve Kean will be no different from anyone else. He will have to make the difficult decisions about when to move kids on to make room for others.
The best thing he can do is try and attract better youngsters than we presently do.
Porteous, Doig and Campbell have been the very best to come through in recent years but for every one of them there have been hundreds who have been moved on.
Lots have come through but haven't had enough to stay at Hibs and have ended up in the Championship. Off the top of my head this seasons Championship sees Stanton & Gullan at Raith Rovers, Martin & Stirling at Hamilton and Murray & Shaw at Kilmarnock.
All young players of quality who didn't have enough to make it at Hibs
 

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No point , speculating IMO 🤷‍♂️ Time will tell
 

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It's only January 8th and there are still 3 weeks left of this window.

I think we will see more comings and goings in the next week or two, and IMO we will get a firm offer for either Boyle, Nisbet or Porteous. When that happens it will be interesting to see how the club handles it.

Four players have arrived this week, well marketed and sufficiently hyped up by the club to get the fans excited and that is fine and good, however expectations have to be realistic in my view. Maloney even alluded to this in his statement on the official site when Melkerson signed. “We will have to give him time, of course, to adapt to our style of play as a team and also to our league, so we’ll be conscious of this". Henderson and Clark are also fairly young and might take a while to adapt, although Clark has been playing for Ross County...a club with significantly lower expectations than Hibs have. I'm not trying to put a dampener on things I just think we have to be aware of just how raw these lads are, and they are now playing for a club with fans who will want to see a clear difference to what we had before....and with this being 2022, it all has to happen immediately. This is the "instant" society we now live in.

IMO Hibs need at least two more experienced players in, either now or in the summer. In the last third we could really do with a player who really knows what he is doing and can lead the line properly. I'm not convinced Nisbet is going to be here much longer, and Doidge will do well to emulate what he achieved last season given he still recovering from a serious injury. I also think we still lack proper leaders in the team. Also if Scott Allan goes, IMO we need an established creative player to replace him.
It was good to get these players in this week given how hard it is to get quality in during the January window, and I really hope we can make a push for a Euro spot, but next season will be the big one for Shaun Maloney.
 
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It's only January 8th and there are still 3 weeks left of this window.

think we will see more comings and goings in the next week or two, and IMO we will get a firm offer for either Boyle, Nisbet or Porteous. When that happens it will be interesting to see how the club handles it.

Four players have arrived this week, well marketed and sufficiently hyped up by the club to get the fans excited and that is fine and good, however expectations have to be realistic in my view. Maloney even alluded to this in his statement on the official site when Melkerson signed. “We will have to give him time, of course, to adapt to our style of play as a team and also to our league, so we’ll be conscious of this". Henderson and Clark are also fairly young and might take a while to adapt, although Clark has been playing for Ross County...a club with significantly lower expectations than Hibs have. I'm not trying to put a dampener on things I just think we have to be aware of just how raw these lads are, and they are now playing for a club with fans who will want to see a clear difference to what we had before....and with this being 2022, it all has to happen immediately. This is the "instant" society we now live in.

IMO Hibs need at least two more experienced players in, either now or in the summer. In the last third we could really do with a player who really knows what he is doing and can lead the line properly. I'm not convinced Nisbet is going to be here much longer, and Doidge will do well to emulate what he achieved last season given he still recovering from a serious injury. I also think we still lack proper leaders in the team. Also if Scott Allan goes, IMO we need an established creative player to replace him.
It was good to get these players in this week given how hard it is to get quality in during the January window, and I really hope we can make a push for a Euro spot, but next season will be the big one for Shaun Maloney.
I agree, but just keep Scot Allan.What will you get better this January window? Also how much could he and the new arrivals possibly conjure up with SM's influence? While I'm here, Daz should not be written off yet!
 

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I agree, but just keep Scot Allan.What will you get better this January window? Also how much could he and the new arrivals possibly conjure up with SM's influence? While I'm here, Daz should not be written off yet!

I cant see Scott playing a big part, he doesn't have the energy or the workrate to fit the apparent style.

Talented passer of the ball, but with all the other attacking options I just can't see him getting the game time.
We very likely won't get a player with what he brings to the table, but those might not be the most important attributes for us.
 

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It's only January 8th and there are still 3 weeks left of this window.

I think we will see more comings and goings in the next week or two, and IMO we will get a firm offer for either Boyle, Nisbet or Porteous. When that happens it will be interesting to see how the club handles it.

Four players have arrived this week, well marketed and sufficiently hyped up by the club to get the fans excited and that is fine and good, however expectations have to be realistic in my view. Maloney even alluded to this in his statement on the official site when Melkerson signed. “We will have to give him time, of course, to adapt to our style of play as a team and also to our league, so we’ll be conscious of this". Henderson and Clark are also fairly young and might take a while to adapt, although Clark has been playing for Ross County...a club with significantly lower expectations than Hibs have. I'm not trying to put a dampener on things I just think we have to be aware of just how raw these lads are, and they are now playing for a club with fans who will want to see a clear difference to what we had before....and with this being 2022, it all has to happen immediately. This is the "instant" society we now live in.

IMO Hibs need at least two more experienced players in, either now or in the summer. In the last third we could really do with a player who really knows what he is doing and can lead the line properly. I'm not convinced Nisbet is going to be here much longer, and Doidge will do well to emulate what he achieved last season given he still recovering from a serious injury. I also think we still lack proper leaders in the team. Also if Scott Allan goes, IMO we need an established creative player to replace him.
It was good to get these players in this week given how hard it is to get quality in during the January window, and I really hope we can make a push for a Euro spot, but next season will be the big one for Shaun Maloney.
Good post.
Of the 5 new players Clark and Mueller look the nearest to ready to roll at Hibs level.
Clark has a lot Porteous character traits both good and bad, I think he can do very well at right back if he can be a little more disciplined than he was at times with Ross County. He will add physicality and forward drive.
Mueller has a good steady base of experience, he will work his bollocks off, will want to keep improving and will believe in himself. Will add an energy and work ethic to the team.

Tait need to jump from the championship to 3rd to 5th finish Premiership level
Henderson probably moving up from bottom 6 Premiership level but has the advantage of having been used to at least being at a big club
Melkerson making a jump up from lower half of Championship level but has a wonderful 1st touch and looks comfy on both feet both of which help a player make the jump. Ron's biggest project and gamble since coming to Hibs.

We need to give these guys a little time but will get a good idea what standard they are once we see them play.
 

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Good post.
Of the 5 new players Clark and Mueller look the nearest to ready to roll at Hibs level.
Clark has a lot Porteous character traits both good and bad, I think he can do very well at right back if he can be a little more disciplined than he was at times with Ross County. He will add physicality and forward drive.

2 yellows and 1 red isn't all that ill disciplined.
 

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Good about time we had a bit depth can’t compete all season with 22/23 players
 

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Jack Wilshere has just arrived in Edinburgh.

Who’s he signing for…
 

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Jack Wilshere has just arrived in Edinburgh.

Who’s he signing for…
If ever a player encapsulated the gunts...

(I reserve the right to deny I ever posted the above should he be on his way to HTC)
 

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If ever a player encapsulated the gunts...

(I reserve the right to deny I ever posted the above should he be on his way to HTC)

Our physio is fully booked.
 

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2 yellows and 1 red isn't all that ill disciplined.
He won't be under as much desperate pressure at Hibs as he was at Ross County so will be less inclined to pull folk back or foul them.
 
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