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1) Can't believe how many folk are suggesting the likes of Maloney or Fletcher - this is 100% not a time for rookies. We are right in the shit, and the incoming manager must have, er, actually managed before. I mean, you could even argue they should have managed a decent-sized club; but never managed at all? Insanity. No time for a gamble like that.

2) For me the profile MUST include knowledge of the Scottish game. For pedants like @Jack who want to know what that means, then it's this: must have either managed or played up here to a decent level; meaning they know very well both the style/pace of the game, and equally importantly the expectations of a club like Hibs, both in terms of style of play, and not accepting bending over for the Glasgow scum. This in itself is no guarantee of success (see Butcher), but it's a controllable factor that at least avoids further Calderwoods or Heckingbottoms.

3) On a related point to the above, the man must have something about him, a bit of personality. You can't lead a club like Hibs quietly from the training pitch with an iPad and bland platitudes. Even more especially now, we need led from the front, and that requires a guy with a bit of gumption and a bit of swagger, who's going to infect the dressing room with a bit of belief. We're not fcukin Kilmarnock or Dundee Utd, we're fcukin Hibs, and we need a man at the helm who not only understands that but relishes it.

With all that said, my number one choice would be Strachan. I know some folk don't like him for whatever reason, but he fulfils all of the above criteria and then some, so I'd make him an offer that would give him something to think about. My number two choice would be Robinson, for the same reasons, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Them over the road will get him.

EDIT: as for Stubbs, he was one SDG header away from total failure at Hibs, in reality, and has been abject in every job since. Plus, it's a legacy too precious to tarnish. Not for me.
I 100% agree, especially about Stubbs. Great guy, legend, but in all honesty, he’s not a great manager.
 

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1) Can't believe how many folk are suggesting the likes of Maloney or Fletcher - this is 100% not a time for rookies. We are right in the shit, and the incoming manager must have, er, actually managed before. I mean, you could even argue they should have managed a decent-sized club; but never managed at all? Insanity. No time for a gamble like that.

2) For me the profile MUST include knowledge of the Scottish game. For pedants like @Jack who want to know what that means, then it's this: must have either managed or played up here to a decent level; meaning they know very well both the style/pace of the game, and equally importantly the expectations of a club like Hibs, both in terms of style of play, and not accepting bending over for the Glasgow scum. This in itself is no guarantee of success (see Butcher), but it's a controllable factor that at least avoids further Calderwoods or Heckingbottoms.

3) On a related point to the above, the man must have something about him, a bit of personality. You can't lead a club like Hibs quietly from the training pitch with an iPad and bland platitudes. Even more especially now, we need led from the front, and that requires a guy with a bit of gumption and a bit of swagger, who's going to infect the dressing room with a bit of belief. We're not fcukin Kilmarnock or Dundee Utd, we're fcukin Hibs, and we need a man at the helm who not only understands that but relishes it.

With all that said, my number one choice would be Strachan. I know some folk don't like him for whatever reason, but he fulfils all of the above criteria and then some, so I'd make him an offer that would give him something to think about. My number two choice would be Robinson, for the same reasons, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Them over the road will get him.

EDIT: as for Stubbs, he was one SDG header away from total failure at Hibs, in reality, and has been abject in every job since. Plus, it's a legacy too precious to tarnish. Not for me.
I believe Strachan could work the passion would be right the energy and drive? Getting the right man beside him to add youth and energy, why not, who? Lots of potentials.
 

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A recently retired player( Maloney or Fletcher) would bring energy and zeal, and would be trying to make a name for himself.....but as long as he doesn't want to end up with a stupid name like phuckin Heckingbottom
 

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Get the players in their preferred positions. Play as a team together.,with a manager who motivates and knows how to man manage. Drop standards your dropped. No really fecking Einstein or Tesla related. Shape your team accordingly as required. Get shot of the players who don't want to be here. We as fans need to play our part. Heckys gone and the things can only get better mantra is not a given. Hard fecking work is key. I'm fecking motivated for the challenge, who else. GGTTH
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Would love to see shaun malony come in. Great coaching education and by all accounts studies the game big time. Young and plenty of drive. Coaches a free flowing style of football at Belgium. Would be good to see that at ER.

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That's a great shout imo. The other side of it though is that we'd maybe be safer going for someone with more management experience. In any case it's nice that this time there are a good few candidates who could do a job unlike when NL left
 
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1) Can't believe how many folk are suggesting the likes of Maloney or Fletcher - this is 100% not a time for rookies. We are right in the shit, and the incoming manager must have, er, actually managed before. I mean, you could even argue they should have managed a decent-sized club; but never managed at all? Insanity. No time for a gamble like that.

2) For me the profile MUST include knowledge of the Scottish game. For pedants like @Jack who want to know what that means, then it's this: must have either managed or played up here to a decent level; meaning they know very well both the style/pace of the game, and equally importantly the expectations of a club like Hibs, both in terms of style of play, and not accepting bending over for the Glasgow scum. This in itself is no guarantee of success (see Butcher), but it's a controllable factor that at least avoids further Calderwoods or Heckingbottoms.

3) On a related point to the above, the man must have something about him, a bit of personality. You can't lead a club like Hibs quietly from the training pitch with an iPad and bland platitudes. Even more especially now, we need led from the front, and that requires a guy with a bit of gumption and a bit of swagger, who's going to infect the dressing room with a bit of belief. We're not fcukin Kilmarnock or Dundee Utd, we're fcukin Hibs, and we need a man at the helm who not only understands that but relishes it.

With all that said, my number one choice would be Strachan. I know some folk don't like him for whatever reason, but he fulfils all of the above criteria and then some, so I'd make him an offer that would give him something to think about. My number two choice would be Robinson, for the same reasons, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Them over the road will get him.

EDIT: as for Stubbs, he was one SDG header away from total failure at Hibs, in reality, and has been abject in every job since. Plus, it's a legacy too precious to tarnish. Not for me.
Agree with all of that.
I also think a fully fired up Strachan with someone like Ian Murray or Kenny Miller would be just what we need right now. Strachan's high profile, experience, motivational skills, and tactical know-how would be a huge asset in our current predicament. Problem is I just don't think he is up for it any more. He is in his early 60's now and probably feels he has done all he ever wants to do in management and is quite happy in his DOF role at Dundee.
If it's a younger guy then Jack Ross certainly fits the bill. Very highly rated in scottish football, my only worry about him is that he has only managed much smaller clubs in Scotland. Getting the Sunderland job was reward for what he achieved up here but being manager at that club is the ultimate poisoned chalice. He just joins a vast throng of excellent scottish managers who have failed in English football.
As for Alan Stubbs..no thanks. A Hibernian legend forever and rightly so, but that was then and this is now. He very much relied on Doolan and Holden when he was here before and without them he was all over the place at Rotherham and St Mirren. I just don't like the idea of bringing former managers/coaches back. We have to look forward, but at the same time we need someone in who is going to immediatetly lift the club and start getting results because I say again we are in a relegation fight this season have no doubts about that.
 

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My preference would be Strachan with a younger guy.

However, if not then a younger coach like Ross.
 

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They have had several weeks to prepare it. I could have written it.

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I think Heckingbottoms agent may have tipped the press the wink and Hibs have had to react.
 

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What about Jim McIntyre? Last manager outside the "big 2" in Scotland to win a major trophy
 

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1) Can't believe how many folk are suggesting the likes of Maloney or Fletcher - this is 100% not a time for rookies. We are right in the shit, and the incoming manager must have, er, actually managed before. I mean, you could even argue they should have managed a decent-sized club; but never managed at all? Insanity. No time for a gamble like that.

2) For me the profile MUST include knowledge of the Scottish game. For pedants like @Jack who want to know what that means, then it's this: must have either managed or played up here to a decent level; meaning they know very well both the style/pace of the game, and equally importantly the expectations of a club like Hibs, both in terms of style of play, and not accepting bending over for the Glasgow scum. This in itself is no guarantee of success (see Butcher), but it's a controllable factor that at least avoids further Calderwoods or Heckingbottoms.

3) On a related point to the above, the man must have something about him, a bit of personality. You can't lead a club like Hibs quietly from the training pitch with an iPad and bland platitudes. Even more especially now, we need led from the front, and that requires a guy with a bit of gumption and a bit of swagger, who's going to infect the dressing room with a bit of belief. We're not fcukin Kilmarnock or Dundee Utd, we're fcukin Hibs, and we need a man at the helm who not only understands that but relishes it.

With all that said, my number one choice would be Strachan. I know some folk don't like him for whatever reason, but he fulfils all of the above criteria and then some, so I'd make him an offer that would give him something to think about. My number two choice would be Robinson, for the same reasons, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Them over the road will get him.

EDIT: as for Stubbs, he was one SDG header away from total failure at Hibs, in reality, and has been abject in every job since. Plus, it's a legacy too precious to tarnish. Not for me.
So in other words let's give the job to some Diddy who has already managed up here and won feck all. Strachan done OK with Celic but at the end of the day it's hardly a managerial masterclass doing so. I'm sick of the same shite coming in. Been there already. The likes of yogi, butcher and now linked with Ross who's done nout and Robinson who's also done nout. What makes these guys such a catch. Strachan hasn't got the best of managerial CVs either. Relegated with Coventry and had to walk at Middlesborough for the same thing. Didn't have Scotland playing particularly well either. Can just as easily be relegated with a manager who has lots of experience. I say do something different. Take the chanve. If it doesn't work out then it's nothing new. We start again. Same as we've always done.

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So in other words let's give the job to some Diddy who has already managed up here and won feck all. Strachan done OK with Celic but at the end of the day it's hardly a managerial masterclass doing so. I'm sick of the same shite coming in. Been there already. The likes of yogi, butcher and now linked with Ross who's done nout and Robinson who's also done nout. What makes these guys such a catch. Strachan hasn't got the best of managerial CVs either. Relegated with Coventry and had to walk at Middlesborough for the same thing. Didn't have Scotland playing particularly well either. Can just as easily be relegated with a manager who has lots of experience. I say do something different. Take the chanve. If it doesn't work out then it's nothing new. We start again. Same as we've always done.

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If it doesn’t work out, we’re gonna run a real risk of getting fuckin relegated. Dunno if it’s escaped your attention.


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What about Jim McIntyre? Last manager outside the "big 2" in Scotland to win a major trophy
That was Stubbs surely.

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Who do you think I meant by the "big 2"
Boom! I fell for it!

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I think we need someone with knowledge of the Scottish game. That's a pretty good record Jack Ross has overall.
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Certainly agree regarding the Scottish game. Did Jack Ross have 1 season in the SPL? Would be interesting to see his record in top flight only
 

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Shaw aint good enough. Raith Rovers is about his level. Never make it as a regular Hibs player.
That might be but he scores goals from time to time and gets into places in the box. Far better than doidge.
 

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Good bloody riddance.

Now someone has to throw out the garbage he brought in. We're not out of the woods yet by a long shot.
 

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If it doesn’t work out, we’re gonna run a real risk of getting fuckin relegated. Dunno if it’s escaped your attention.


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Nothings to say its going to work out regardless of who we bring in. Terry butcher come with all the spl experience you could ever need but look where that left us. Gerrard had no managerial experience or spl experience what so ever but has done a pretty good job at Rangeers over the past two years. Experience and age is irrelevant in my eyes. As long as you have a system and a way of getti g that over to the players then you could be 17 for all I care. Yes as you said we are looking over our shoulders at the moment but I do believe that we have a good enough squad to stay well clear. Just needs new ideas injected.

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