Gunt's Last 10 Managers...
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Greenmachine
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I think Cathro will improve Hearts next season, let's face it they can't be much worse than they have been this season since around November. The problem is that they won't be able to satisfy their fans expectations so I don't think he is going to be long term in the job. At the end of the day they just want to beat Hibs and finish above them in the league so if that doesn't happen he will be a total failure in their eyes and he will be out the door pronto.
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If they lose to us in the 1st Derby then he'll be out i reckon...
Stanton Spence
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I really can't see him making them any better going on how well he's made them shite in such a short space of time but was obviously backed to the hilt in the January window and signed nine players who are average at best and rank rotten at worst
He's already lost the support which inevitably leads to loosing the dressing room
He will get this summer window to sort this and the January window to wave goodbye to the seething get cathro out brigade and he will be away from the gunts and leaving them fighting to stay in the league especially if he brings in more numpties this summer
I'm not sure how many they have on contact from the season passing but he will also struggle to get rid of any of them
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Don't think Cathro the Patsy is gonna last until the new season. There's probably a plane scheduled for a fly past of the PBS as we speak.
The über Gunt loyal have a view of their club almost on a par with the Huns, both if whom casually forget neither club has the financial doping of the past 30 years to prop them up anymore. It's like watching an Attenborough documentary with them.
Stanton Spence
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I was thinking the same and thought cathro was a cert to get his good looks before the new season but going on what's been going around on keeckback and the budges statements it looks like he will be in charge for the start of the season at least
I suppose the next two or three weeks will tell all
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I doubt Cathro has the ability to improve them. He may be able to stop the slide but he will not turn them into a force to be reckoned with. Hearts are where they are due to their financial constraints and no number of pledges and change of managers is going to change that. Admin II is not far off I reckon.
Jack
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What if they have the money?
Save Hearts In Trouble is supposedly bringing in £125,000 a month. The cost of their season tickets is much higher than ours. They've had folk just chucked in £2.5m.
OK I reckon SHIT will take a bit of a hit with shocking results and the extortionate ST prices might put a few off but overall I still think there'll be a very healthy income.
Even if the £3m shortfall is correct their little Budgie will stump up what's needed and add that to the millions they're already due to pay her at 6% interest. It's a nice little earner for her either way.
I also think all this begging bowl stuff is a bit of a smokescreen.
Save Hearts In Trouble is supposedly bringing in £125,000 a month. The cost of their season tickets is much higher than ours. They've had folk just chucked in £2.5m.
OK I reckon SHIT will take a bit of a hit with shocking results and the extortionate ST prices might put a few off but overall I still think there'll be a very healthy income.
Even if the £3m shortfall is correct their little Budgie will stump up what's needed and add that to the millions they're already due to pay her at 6% interest. It's a nice little earner for her either way.
I also think all this begging bowl stuff is a bit of a smokescreen.
Chris G Whyte
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I don't know.
Nielson's numbers are inflated by an excellent Championship season, but I happen to think Ian Cathro is a pretty good manager. He's got a modern approach, shows tactical knowledge in some of his decision-making, and is largely being undone by inheriting a team that really isn't his. Yes, they brought in lots of players in January that turned out to be duds, but that almost always happens when you panic-buy in order to arrest a slide. To me, Hearts have a lot of problems that aren't attributable to the dugout:
1) Fan expectation is too high; they're not drastically outspending other clubs (like Hibs), so shouldn't expect drastically better performance.
2) Their Championship squad wasn't reformed well enough; there are too many players who obviously aren't good enough at this level.
3) Craig Levein; whether you think he's good or bad, the Director of Football should not have an impact on selection. Levein does.
Hearts, nowadays, should be roughly competitive with Hibs, Aberdeen and (when in the Premiership) Dundee United. That's their level due to fan base, sponsorship expectation, and level of attraction. They're going to underperform at times, overperform at other times, and generally make the top six while being a threat in cup competitions and earning European football with relative consistency.
If their fan base can accept that, they'll be okay. I just reckon too many of them have gotten used to dominating Hibs, and are coming to terms with the end of that.
Nielson's numbers are inflated by an excellent Championship season, but I happen to think Ian Cathro is a pretty good manager. He's got a modern approach, shows tactical knowledge in some of his decision-making, and is largely being undone by inheriting a team that really isn't his. Yes, they brought in lots of players in January that turned out to be duds, but that almost always happens when you panic-buy in order to arrest a slide. To me, Hearts have a lot of problems that aren't attributable to the dugout:
1) Fan expectation is too high; they're not drastically outspending other clubs (like Hibs), so shouldn't expect drastically better performance.
2) Their Championship squad wasn't reformed well enough; there are too many players who obviously aren't good enough at this level.
3) Craig Levein; whether you think he's good or bad, the Director of Football should not have an impact on selection. Levein does.
Hearts, nowadays, should be roughly competitive with Hibs, Aberdeen and (when in the Premiership) Dundee United. That's their level due to fan base, sponsorship expectation, and level of attraction. They're going to underperform at times, overperform at other times, and generally make the top six while being a threat in cup competitions and earning European football with relative consistency.
If their fan base can accept that, they'll be okay. I just reckon too many of them have gotten used to dominating Hibs, and are coming to terms with the end of that.
sauzee 1875
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Looks like he has lost the dressing room too had a bust up in tunnel with one of the players at half time jonnsen or whatever his name is
Jack
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"American striker Bjorn Johnsen looks certain to be leaving Hearts this summer following a heated exchange with head coach Ian Cathro that led to the 25-year-old being substituted at the break during Wednesday's defeat by St Johnstone. (Scottish Sun)
Deansy
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Bang-on Beagle !. It's incredible but both sets of supporters seem to believe that the last 30 years of their history was no different to the years preceding them - as if both clubs have always operated in 'Big money', or been regarded as a 'Big team' - (this applies only to the Jambos - arguably the Huns are a 'Big team', but only due to the number of bigots they attract) - by the media and opposing supporters. It's almost as if these club's older-supporters, ones who'd experienced the 'Pre-money' years, who should've naturally provided the 'link' between the 'Old & New fan' having experienced 2 contrasting 'sets of fortunes' (winning nothing to winning constantly/more often) were either ignored/struck dumb/mysteriously disappeared or just didn't exist ?. An example is that Jambos seem to think that they've always lorded it over us in the derbies but seem oblivious to the fact that 'The Famous' only won TWO derbies out of the entire 1970's ?. I don't know the overall derby-record but I do know that over the last 30+ years it's been artificially inflated with 'Other people's money' !
I also know that the next 30+ years will NOT in any way, be anything like the last 30+ and the only winner out of that is Hibs and Hibs-supporters !
Jack
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Cathro has been having extensive talks with their player of the year. So Jamie Walker, with a year left on his contract, has decided it's time to go.
Surprise surprise sevco are getting excited.
There's a worse than usual smell about this from Scottish Mid Stream Media/ibroke/swinecsstle.
Surprise surprise sevco are getting excited.
There's a worse than usual smell about this from Scottish Mid Stream Media/ibroke/swinecsstle.
Hibee Kev
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The gunts best player by a country mile.
Greenmachine
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Huns have been after Walker for a long time...they won't have the money to buy him though.