Don't always find time to see anything from Keechback, but another member recommended it to me last night.In a post called 'Atmosphere' it turnned out to be pure comedy gold.The fans going at each other like the end of their club had just been announced! One guy saying us coming to Tynecastle was like a jambos away day to White Heart Lane or Anfield! Another guy was saying our drummer had done his heid in and the fact that our end was totally bouncing was an enbarrasement to us and how it would all be so much differant on Wednesday. Their deluded fuddery knows no bounds.One guy amusingly suggested that they should get a glitter ball.He was summerly told to 'f' off to a theatre.The whole thing is still going and is now well into it's 12th page. Go there for a laugh!
Is in fact the thread I posted
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It would have been tourists from Livingston I expect.
You'd have thought Gary Mackay would have managed to get a ticket for the game :coffee:
Justin had a torrid time at Nottingham Forest. After a big money signing he was a huge disappointment on the pitch - much to Cloughy's chagrin. It finally culminated with a training ground incident where Brian ordered him off the pitch, if I recall. Justin refused to leave and the police were called. Before that time it had come to the notice of the Forest management that Fashanu was frequenting gay venues in Nottingham which Cloughie was reportedly unhappy about though not sure the truth of that. In a crass way, it would have been interesting to see if he'd been more 'accepted' if he'd been successful on the pitch instead of the very expensive flop he was.
'Georgie Best Superstar! Walks Like a woman and he wears a bra!'
Truth be told ZB I don't think the majority of supporters give a fig about a players sexual preference, unless he's Richard Gough or A.N. Other of similar persuasion. K***s like them are perfectly acceptable targets and IMO fair game.
Whilst we may not overtly "foster" the idea of coming out, I think in society there is now, amongst the majority, football fans included, an acceptance that we are not all as God planned us. The vast majority of professional footballers I should imagine are aware of and prepared for much of the abuse hurled at them, much of which is unfounded, sometimes good humoured and as [MENTION=4709]Beagle[/MENTION] intimated, designed purely to unsettle specific players of the opposition.
Supporters in my view are unfairly tarred as racist, homophobic and sexist(an allegation which yonder fruit loop on Keechbak is doing a grand job of cementing). We are purely individual members of society who gather together to watch and support and identify with our team and fellow supporters. We do not gather specifically to harass, harangue or abuse any specific group or culture. Rather we seek to gain any advantage to benefit our team and this occasionally manifests itself in the form of homophobic or racist chants. I openly partook in them as have my boys from a young age despite having gay friends and friends from a variety of ethnicities.
If we are to believe the allegations surrounding Fashanu and his treatment by a manager who paid £1m for him and the bullying by fellow professionals then that surely is a problem to be addressed rather than diverting from it by pointing the finger at supporters. Sadly we have assholes who manage to get themselves heard on TV ... Richard Keys & fartface Gray, Ron Atkinson and Mark Mcghee who are the real culprits in fostering sexism and racism and homophobia within the sport.
Many moons have passed since I first saw on my lads playstation "Let's Kick Racism Out of Sport". Add homophobia and sexism to that and still nothing changes. I for one do not blame the majority of supporters but rather the self seeking sensationalist media who are only too happy to keep these issues alive and do nothing to eradicate the vile elements within their organisations who happily keep these topics simmering in the hope of some headline grabbing falsified story.
Cheers
P.S. [MENTION=2814]ZemmamasBarnet[/MENTION], aye, I think there was the "Gay Gordons" supporters club...set up by some students maybe in the last decade...not entirely sure as I was away living and working in Devon at the time....think I got a glimpse of [MENTION=13703]paigntonhibby[/MENTION] in his Hibs shirt on one of my sojourns
At no point southfield did I state that I found it acceptable. In an earlier post I think I made it clear that I thought hibs supporters treatment of Fashanu was indeed unacceptable. Similarly the treatment dished out to Mark Walters at Swinecastle was a total disgrace and a huge stain, IMO, on the reputation not just of the Gunts but of Scottish football in general at that time.
I can understand that an element of my post may have intimated that I adhere to the point of view that all is fair in love and war, particularly..." We do not gather specifically to harass, harangue or abuse any specific group or culture. Rather we seek to gain any advantage to benefit our team and this occasionally manifests itself in the form of homophobic or racist chants. I openly partook in them as have my boys from a young age despite having gay friends and friends from a variety of ethnicities".
In no way was this meant to advocate any of the issues involved. I made the comment as what I see to be a statement of fact. I, not once in 50+ yrs of following our club, set foot in ER or any away ground with the express intention of abusing any member of the opposition in a racist or homophobic manner. Admittedly I have been guilty of getting caught up in the atmosphere and have, as stated previously, joined in and sang derisory and offensive chants. If that makes me a racist or homophobe then the same applies to the thousands of others who sing along too. Can't recall ever performing solo
Cheers
Young Niddrie Terror
Ah, my sheltered upbringing. I thought it was Youthful Naughty Twerps.
