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Foley speaks

Increasingly feels like the Gordon family have been one of the worst things to happen to us šŸ˜ž

It's not been great. Dunno what to think. Would like to see the end on Kensell and Gordon's but this other group could be massively worse.

Look at Lorient for example.
 
To have a public ownership disagreement a few months after agreeing shared ownership is pretty well the dictionary definition of absolute shambles! Crazy!
I'm glad they have spoken out in a way.

We were all wondering what was going on in terms of investment on the pitch and how the BKs fitted in to appointing an inexperienced HC with his mates as assistants and have only recruited lower league jobbers (not offence they actually look no bad) but it flies in the face of everything that was said when they where coming to the table.

Well now we know they aren't having input and it's pretty much the same as ever. At least we know that now and the pressure is on the board of the club to respond and deliver players capable of playing for our club if they are ignoring the BKs suggestions. I don't think for a second this will happen when Ian Gordon is involved but it's the hope that gets you.
 
In fairness l don’t agree with everything foley says .

Issue is he wants all the clubs being feeder clubs for Bournemouth. I’ve no doubt be made this very clear when investing in us .

Another Bydand sports shit show .

I’d prefer they all fukd off and we get Hibernian men and women to own and run us
 
Another rumour kicking about over the road is the BKG said here is our scouting network and all that stuff and Ian Gordon said no, that's my job!
 
We've no idea what they're suggesting we do. It could be the majority ownership think/know that to us it would be hugely unpalatable and unpopular.

Something has not felt right for some time....

Wrong that it's in the public domain.
Let’s see what communication we get from the club after this then mate. It took weeks to hear from our newly appointed head coach so I won’t hold my breath. More likely to have emails from them advertising hospitality for the Celtic game.
 
Another rumour kicking about over the road is the BKG said here is our scouting network and all that stuff and Ian Gordon said no, that's my job!
Not a roumar … also in Monty final days sending him to watch a player he didn’t want. They didn’t want Monty’s player that he wanted
 
Another rumour kicking about over the road is the BKG said here is our scouting network and all that stuff and Ian Gordon said no, that's my job!

But its not? It's Malkys job.


No sure that's how it would work anyway, how do you hand over a counting system that scouts at a different level and price point?

Their system won't be designed to accommodate our needs.

We need help identifying the correct data, but Malky seems pretty confident he can do this too

Ekpiteta and O'Hora are a decent indication of that... hope the rest is the same and better.
 
In fairness l don’t agree with everything foley says .

Issue is he wants all the clubs being feeder clubs for Bournemouth. I’ve no doubt be made this very clear when investing in us .

Another Bydand sports shit show .

I’d prefer they all fukd off and we get Hibernian men and women to own and run us
An opportunity lost, we had that with Hibs women and men when BuyHibs approached the Club.
 
But its not? It's Malkys job.


No sure that's how it would work anyway, how do you hand over a counting system that scouts at a different level and price point?

Their system won't be designed to accommodate our needs.

We need help identifying the correct data, but Malky seems pretty confident he can do this too

Ekpiteta and O'Hora are a decent indication of that... hope the rest is the same and better.
Wasn’t it McDermotts job also?

We appointed McKay as sporting director on the basis of being the chairman’s mate and not much else. What qualified him for the role? Getting the sack at Ross County same as what qualified McDermott? McKay isn’t going to go against the wishes of his boss which is ultimately Ian Gordon.
BKs look as if they would have liked to interact with us to go down a different route after the internet review and it’s been completely ignored and we have a yes man in place that will do what the owners tell him. I can see why the BKs are correctly pissed off.
 
Surely the BK network of clubs could be used to Hibs’ advantage, not only for getting players in but, as importantly for getting players out on loan etc? Malky IMHO should be exploring every potential avenue for such to shift some non-performers.
Agree with your point, is Foley making an observation or a threat, one thing is for sure this club is a complete mess top to bottom and has been for years, long before the BK became involved but getting worse every year
 
Wasn’t it McDermotts job also?

We appointed McKay as sporting director on the basis of being the chairman’s mate and not much else. What qualified him for the role? Getting the sack at Ross County same as what qualified McDermott? McKay isn’t going to go against the wishes of his boss which is ultimately Ian Gordon.
BKs look as if they would have liked to interact with us to go down a different route after the internet review and it’s been completely ignored and we have a yes man in place that will do what the owners tell him. I can see why the BKs are correctly pissed off.

So you want us to have a yes man to the BK group instead? šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

We've been through Malkys qualifications, he's done much more in the game than be somebody's pal and get sacked at County.

Narrow it down to the negatives all you want, there's more to the picture than that too.


I'm not happy with Hibs
But there needs to be some level headedness around this shit
You're talking about someone controlling the club from outside without any skin in the game.

If Hibs fall apart then Bill Foley wouldn't give a fuck
Wouldn't even register with him
 
I'd rather see how the season pans out

No even kicked off the league yet and look at the state of this shit
We certainly should wait until the transfer window closes in 6 weeks which will be our first point to meaningfully assess the ins, outs and gaps.
Hope Malky and Co hold their nerve in the face of noisy discontent.
 
The club and team has absolutely no identity anymore. It feels like they are sucking the life out of the club and spinning us yarn after yarn. Of course we want to believe, but actions and words are not matching up. We'll see when the transfer window closes what state the club is really in.
 
We certainly should wait until the transfer window closes in 6 weeks which will be our first point to meaningfully assess the ins, outs and gaps.
Hope Malky and Co hold their nerve in the face of noisy discontent.

I think Malky at least deserves the window to show the direction he's trying to take us.

I think Sir Dave needs more than 3 league cup games to be the villain.

We all know the squad isn't good enough, we all know we came to the table late this summer because of last seasons shambles. We all know the squad was outrageously bloated in nonsense areas
Its not a surprise we don't have a full strength team yet.

Good enough for a club with our ambitions? No

I was happy for Dave and Malky to be a reset point. That includes building the squad.
I want to see what they build.

I've been saying the whole time that it wouldn't be this season, trying to condition everyone to this. Seen it coming a mile away.
 
So you want us to have a yes man to the BK group instead? šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

We've been through Malkys qualifications, he's done much more in the game than be somebody's pal and get sacked at County.

Narrow it down to the negatives all you want, there's more to the picture than that too.


I'm not happy with Hibs
But there needs to be some level headedness around this shit
You're talking about someone controlling the club from outside without any skin in the game.

If Hibs fall apart then Bill Foley wouldn't give a fuck
Wouldn't even register with him
No I want someone who is experienced in the position working alongside them for what is best for our club. Not someone that hasn’t done the role sacked off Ross County and got the job because he’s a mate of the chairman that is assisted by a newly retired player with again absolutely no experience. Malky has been a manager, some a failed manager some decent, he also done a shite job at the SFA.

I’m not wanting them to take over. I want them and their network to have input over everything to do with the club to take it away from the twats who currently do so.

The owners of the club have completely failed the football side of it, the most important part and focused on commercial making it more attractive in the long term to sell and make a wedge. Foley wants our footballing side of things to get torn up and start again, can’t say I blame him. We just now it’s same old same old. No lessons learned no game changing shite, sod all.
 
I'd rather see how the season pans out

No even kicked off the league yet and look at the state of this shit
We always wait to see the season pans out. See last year with McDermott, see the previous seasons with Kean kicking about.
The season pans out as expected what do you do then?
The league hasn’t started yet no, the squad is a shambles and we just lost to part time Kelty. Seriously when is the time to stop waiting?
 
Something in DGs demeanour and body language at the game may suggest more going on than we know.
He’s in his first head coaching role with a squad full of shite that isn’t good enough and hasn’t been backed. Feel for him.
 
We always wait to see the season pans out. See last year with McDermott, see the previous seasons with Kean kicking about.
The season pans out as expected what do you do then?
The league hasn’t started yet no, the squad is a shambles and we just lost to part time Kelty. Seriously when is the time to stop waiting?

Agree we've done this every year
But if they're trying to make it better then I want to see it.



he also done a shite job at the SFA.


Lies
 
Mackay and Gray will be the ones involved in recruitment...that's how it should be. Always.
MacKay has been brought in to sort things out....which he is doing.
Gray was appointed by MacKay and authorised by Kensall, the club CEO....and the Gordons. That's how it should be.
The BK group will have been told this months ago....we had to get SFA permission before they could even invest.
I really don't see what their problem is ?
There has been a massive overreaction to a very bad result in Kelty on Saturday....we didn't take our chances, that's why we lost. Nothing to do with tactics, directors or anything else.
We are still going to win the group FFS.
 
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Mackay and Gray will be the ones involved in recruitment...that's how it should be. Always.
MacKay has been brought in to sort things out....which he is doing.
Gray was appointed by MacKay and authorised by Kensall, the club CEO....and the Gordons. That's how it should be.
The BK group will have bee told tis months ago....we had to get SFA permission before they could even invest.
I really don' see what their problem is ?
There has been a massive overreaction to a very bad result in Kelty on Saturday....we didn't take our chances, that's why we lost. Nothing to do with tactics, directors or anything else.
We are still going to win the group FFS.
Foley running his mouth about us certainly isn't going to help things.
 
Very disappointing to say the very least that Foley feels he’s got to air his dirty laundry in public.

He’s obviously not happy with the way things are going so far.

I’ve got an idea, why don’t we sign a few decent quality players.
I’m pretty sure that’ll make all the difference. 🤨
 
Mackay and Gray will be the ones involved in recruitment...that's how it should be. Always.
MacKay has been brought in to sort things out....which he is doing.
Gray was appointed by MacKay and authorised by Kensall, the club CEO....and the Gordons. That's how it should be.
The BK group will have bee told tis months ago....we had to get SFA permission before they could even invest.
I really don' see what their problem is ?
There has been a massive overreaction to a very bad result in Kelty on Saturday....we didn't take our chances, that's why we lost. Nothing to do with tactics, directors or anything else.
We are still going to win the group FFS.
Ian Gordon is still involved in recruitment, that’s not the way it should ever be.
Who was McKay appointed by to sort it? The same guys who appointed Kean and McDermott to ā€œsort itā€
Their problem if they have a problem will be we are ignoring the advice they give us as stated by Foley. It doesn’t even appear to really have a problem, just that the club have went their own way as per and it’s not for the best.

The ā€œover reactionā€ as you play it down is down to failing seasons, sacked managers and compensation all over the shop, shite players brought in and an absolutely brutal squad. We finished 8th in the league last year and there’s been next to no improvements in the team or squad.
 
just that the club have went their own way as per and it’s not for the best.

You do not know that

You do not know that whatever Bill Foley is recommending is for the best

Unless it gets broken down, there's actually nothing here to flap over
 
I reckon Foley is looking for a way out of the deal. You don’t shoot your mouth off to the media about your business partners operating model and expect them to sit up and take notice.
I think things between Foley and the club are likely dead in the water because it’s hardly going to be coming up roses following a public criticism.
 
That's simply not true.
Well,we sacked every hibs minded person that had been involved with the club,our levels of football performance have plummeted,we’ve made basic errors as in just one ! playing a player who was on a ban in a cup tie leading to our expulsion from the tournament,our player and management recruitment policy has been utter shambolic,and our season tkt sales this year will probably be the lowest for a long time,just to name a few
But on the positive we are providing a new fantastic match day experience
 

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