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Bofahibee

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Is it just me or is Diving getting worse in Scottish football? McGregor's dive last night was blatant as you like and it seems some teams see it as a legitimate tactic. Sadly refs just keep falling for it.
 
I disagree with blaming refs for cheating. The clubs should call other clubs and players out for the cheating.

Blaming refs hasn’t sorted the problem.
 
While arseholes continue with such crap as "He was entitled to go down" and such like I think anything changing is unlikely. The referees seem to agree with the arseholes!
 
Purple & Green said:
I disagree with blaming refs for cheating. The clubs should call other clubs and players out for the cheating.

Blaming refs hasn’t sorted the problem.
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Spot on.

Standard of refereeing is pretty dismal, but when a referee gets conned (as opposed to merely being shit at his job) then the blame should be directed at the player.

When ex-players and 'pundits' trot out such pish as 'there was contact so he's entitled to go down' or 'last man, so that's a red/not last man so no red' then you realise just how confused the understanding is.

How somebody like Andy Walker who played the game for years can be so utterly uninformed about the rules is absolutely mindblowing.

More evidence that heading the ball can not only contribute to dementia, but also lead to being an irritating fcukwit with aspirations of achieving some sort of credibility despite clearly being a moron.
 
Interestingly, Brendan Rodgers said after one of the incidents he didn’t know what the rules where. It might even have been a subtle dig at the lawmakers.
 
Purple & Green said:
Interestingly, Brendan Rodgers said after one of the incidents he didn’t know what the rules where. It might even have been a subtle dig at the lawmakers.
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That's a shameful thing for Brenda to say!

It only takes a couple of clicks on Google to be able to download the Laws of the Game.... Seems like players, pundits and highly experienced managers quite simply can't be arsed to do this.

No wonder they spout such pish eh?
 
Purple & Green said:
I disagree with blaming refs for cheating. The clubs should call other clubs and players out for the cheating.

Blaming refs hasn’t sorted the problem.
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Yes, often times the refs are conned, sometimes I don't trust the refs and feel they wanted to give a penalty anyway which is really troubling. The way forward is to retroactively punish player and club using video replay. Better yet, review the incident at the time. If it's a dive, make it a forced substitution, fine the player and the club or something. If it's retro, deduct a goal (even of the penalty was missed) and see where the end result lands.

Better yet, have the players take a look at themselves. Get the captain to say to the player "hey, looked liked a dive, did you dive ?" and if he says "aye, I couldn't resist" then the captain says to the penalty taker, "high and wide mate. he dived."
 
Purple & Green said:
Interestingly, Brendan Rodgers said after one of the incidents he didn’t know what the rules where. It might even have been a subtle dig at the lawmakers.
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The laws are pretty clear, it’s the application of them that has led to this ambiguity and the “if there’s contact I’m entitled to fall over” attitude that current.
 
Make diving a red card offence...nothing will change until this happens.
If it is missed during the game by the referee and video evidence clearly shows a player has dived to get a penalty or a foul, then then the compliance officer should have the authority to administer a retrospective red card.
 
Also, the problem is we aren’t talking about black and white cases.

We’re also talking about degree of contact and reaction. It’s all arguable.
 
Diving is cheating, cheating is about as low as you get in sport.

There could be a case for doing away with penalty kicks , that is where 99% of the diving is concerned.Blatant stopping a goal , red card, anything else , free kick and get on with it.
Take the Smellies last night , that 2nd to wear the green gadgie was never going to score from the position he was in, he didn't even have the ball, was running away from goal, how that earns you the equivalent to a tap in is wrong.
 
It’s worse from that angle. He impedes the defender and, knowing full-well that they’ll collide, makes a dive that would make Tom Daley proud. Horrible.


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