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I look like that this morning, bottle glug, he's had two bottles and smoked that plant behind him. I now feel reassured we're not in control of the Rona.
That's surely the guys lodger, maybe the cleaner because they're allowed to work in England. The real Prof is stuck in the lavvy.This is one of worst interviews i’ve seen
This is one of worst interviews i’ve seen
Line up line up the goverment of England want fruit and veg pickers..
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More detail from the FT boys??????? giving a like for like comparison between countries.
Media questioning seem to have taken a battering throughout this crisis but this is outstanding work.
Boris stated it will be ready , and in big numbers.According to a friend who has family on the Pile of Shite (Isle of Wight for those unaware of the local term) there is a lot of resistance from the islanders and they are not downloading the app*.
Now while we (most of we) have a distrust of the Westminster government and so do they, they're also mentioning a distrust of local officials!
I also heard on the news at lunchtime NHS bigwigs down south were giving the UK government a stern warning not to muck up the test, track and trace strategy warning of dire consequences while at the same time doubts were cast that the test, track and trace strategy was anywhere near ready.
* I'm sure some will be
Matt Hancock hinted today vaccination for Covid 19 will be compulsory even without long term testing to see the long term side effects.
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Unless there is genuine test, test, test, trace then isolate: the default position is Herd immunity by stealth.?
Based on the good professor who is on the Scottish ??????? scientific committee virtually no one has had the virus yet and Herd immunity if that is even possible is a long way off.
Scotland??????? can't protect it borders as it doesn't have the power and Englands??????? 14 day quarantine excludes France ?? and Ireland ?? and is very vague with no detail as of yet.
Its not so much snookers, its 2 earthquakes and a miracle to avoid a miserable winter.?
5% of 66M is 3.3M
17% of 10M is 1.7M
1.6M of 56M is 3%
If I’ve understood that right
3% of 5.5M is 165,000
I think there are around 400,000 people living in care homes in the UK, and I believe around 20,000 of the tragic deaths have been in care homes. I'm not sure what proportion of people in care homes have contracted the disease but it's clear the fatality rate in that environment is extremely high.60,000 deaths on 3.3M cases is 2% ish?
I think there are around 400,000 people living in care homes in the UK, and I believe around 20,000 of the tragic deaths have been in care homes. I'm not sure what proportion of people in care homes have contracted the disease but it's clear the fatality rate in that environment is extremely high.
If those awful deaths were subtracted from the total it would leave c.40,000 / 3,300,000 = 1.2% in the wider population. That seems to be more in line with the percentages that are being quoted by other countries (albeit it's not really clear how / if many of those other countries include care home deaths in their figures).
I'm not sure its genocide or incompetence.That would make a lot of sense, and tie up the numbers a bit better.
I've seen the word genocide used, but I'd think it is more incompetent than design.
It does provide a stark contrast though, between the shielding the over 70s and the lack of protection for those in care homes.
I'm not sure its genocide or incompetence.
What the bastard Torys have done is deliberate. From ignoring Cygnus in 2016m running down social services and the NHS through to arsehole Boris delivering a speech at the beginning on the year affirming the UK would remain open for business throughout the pandemic because that would give us a heads start against the competition.
The old folk and most of the others that have died (a figure I'd put at our total less the number of people that have died in countries where proper preparations and systems were put in place to deal with it) will be seen as nothing more than collateral damage to the Torys.
Political decisions were made to let them die.
I think the government were acutely aware that TV pictures of overwhelmed hospitals with patients in corridors (as we saw in Italy) would be very very bad for their image. I truly believe that's why they sent so many people back into care homes / refused to admit sick care home residents to hospital. Leaving them to die quietly out of sight turns them into just numbers that can be glossed over with judicious use of graphs and obfuscation.That would make a lot of sense, and tie up the numbers a bit better.
I've seen the word genocide used, but I'd think it is more incompetent than design.
It does provide a stark contrast though, between the shielding the over 70s and the lack of protection for those in care homes.
I think the government were acutely aware that TV pictures of overwhelmed hospitals with patients in corridors (as we saw in Italy) would be very very bad for their image. I truly believe that's why they sent so many people back into care homes / refused to admit sick care home residents to hospital. Leaving them to die quietly out of sight turns them into just numbers that can be glossed over with judicious use of graphs and obfuscation.
He has to if this is proved.EXCLUSIVE (to the Mirror) Boris Johnson's top aide was spotted at his parents' home in Durham - more than 250 miles away from his home in London - five days after Number 10 say he started self-isolating.
More lies and deceit from the UK government. I'll bet Dominic Cummings isn't forced to resign.
EXCLUSIVE (to the Mirror) Boris Johnson's top aide was spotted at his parents' home in Durham - more than 250 miles away from his home in London - five days after Number 10 say he started self-isolating.
More lies and deceit from the UK government. I'll bet Dominic Cummings isn't forced to resign.
I think the government were acutely aware that TV pictures of overwhelmed hospitals with patients in corridors (as we saw in Italy) would be very very bad for their image. I truly believe that's why they sent so many people back into care homes / refused to admit sick care home residents to hospital. Leaving them to die quietly out of sight turns them into just numbers that can be glossed over with judicious use of graphs and obfuscation.
Indeed.Even if he does go, he won’t really go.
Her advice was good.Wonder if Calderwood is still giving Sturgeon advice from some dark wee cubbyhole. I hope not.
I may have said this before but with NHS England taking the lead in ordering the major equipment sourcing I wonder if our access to testing kits is being stymied by England?I barely know who this Cummings guy is other than he is Johnson top advisor but he is just a convenient distraction for a week or so.
England's ??????? real problem is that they have a staggering number of excess tragic deaths in the region of 55,000 people, and there is still no functioning test, test, test then trace and isolate system in place.
The public are now tiring and confused by the lockdown process in England??????? and there is no clear leadership as to whether the overall objective is herd immunity by stealth or kill the outbreak through aggressive testing and isolation.?
Scotland's??????? problem is that it might be trying to go down a different path by extending the lockdown and buying time for a more aggressive policy on stamping out the virus but has had a woefully inadequate testing system in place from Day 1 and has barely improved this 55 days later.?
Scotland also cant protect its borders so a little more honesty is required in admitting for all the bravado that really the overall objective ultimately is herd immunity by stealth.?
The summer should be the time to build up public infrastructure including mass testing but yet another political distraction needs to play out and all the while the triple whammy of winter flu, covid -19 , more lockdowns awaits next winter.?
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