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Rocky

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60,000 deaths on 3.3M cases is 2% ish?
I think there are around 400,000 people living in care homes in the UK, and I believe around 20,000 of the tragic deaths have been in care homes. I'm not sure what proportion of people in care homes have contracted the disease but it's clear the fatality rate in that environment is extremely high.

If those awful deaths were subtracted from the total it would leave c.40,000 / 3,300,000 = 1.2% in the wider population. That seems to be more in line with the percentages that are being quoted by other countries (albeit it's not really clear how / if many of those other countries include care home deaths in their figures).
 

Purple & Green

Radge McRadge
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I think there are around 400,000 people living in care homes in the UK, and I believe around 20,000 of the tragic deaths have been in care homes. I'm not sure what proportion of people in care homes have contracted the disease but it's clear the fatality rate in that environment is extremely high.

If those awful deaths were subtracted from the total it would leave c.40,000 / 3,300,000 = 1.2% in the wider population. That seems to be more in line with the percentages that are being quoted by other countries (albeit it's not really clear how / if many of those other countries include care home deaths in their figures).
That would make a lot of sense, and tie up the numbers a bit better.

I've seen the word genocide used, but I'd think it is more incompetent than design.

It does provide a stark contrast though, between the shielding the over 70s and the lack of protection for those in care homes.
 

Jack

Bounce Radge
That would make a lot of sense, and tie up the numbers a bit better.

I've seen the word genocide used, but I'd think it is more incompetent than design.

It does provide a stark contrast though, between the shielding the over 70s and the lack of protection for those in care homes.
I'm not sure its genocide or incompetence.

What the bastard Torys have done is deliberate. From ignoring Cygnus in 2016m running down social services and the NHS through to arsehole Boris delivering a speech at the beginning on the year affirming the UK would remain open for business throughout the pandemic because that would give us a heads start against the competition.

The old folk and most of the others that have died (a figure I'd put at our total less the number of people that have died in countries where proper preparations and systems were put in place to deal with it) will be seen as nothing more than collateral damage to the Torys.

Political decisions were made to let them die.
 

Sir Shrink

Quite a bit past it radge
Bounce Radge
I read the other day that the virus was being particularly harsh on Jews for some reason.
I suppose I should be comforted by that because I was ticking virtually all the high risk boxes: age, high blood pressure, asthma, COPD, underlying health conditions………………..basically everything except being black. I’m not Jewish either so possibly the odds are slightly more in my favour now.
Seeing all the groups that are being worst affected by this disease I’m inclined to think that perhaps it didn’t originate in China after all, but in a Nazi laboratory.
 

GORDONSMITH7

**** The Hearts
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I'm not sure its genocide or incompetence.

What the bastard Torys have done is deliberate. From ignoring Cygnus in 2016m running down social services and the NHS through to arsehole Boris delivering a speech at the beginning on the year affirming the UK would remain open for business throughout the pandemic because that would give us a heads start against the competition.

The old folk and most of the others that have died (a figure I'd put at our total less the number of people that have died in countries where proper preparations and systems were put in place to deal with it) will be seen as nothing more than collateral damage to the Torys.

Political decisions were made to let them die.


BIG G
 

Rocky

Bounce Radge
That would make a lot of sense, and tie up the numbers a bit better.

I've seen the word genocide used, but I'd think it is more incompetent than design.

It does provide a stark contrast though, between the shielding the over 70s and the lack of protection for those in care homes.
I think the government were acutely aware that TV pictures of overwhelmed hospitals with patients in corridors (as we saw in Italy) would be very very bad for their image. I truly believe that's why they sent so many people back into care homes / refused to admit sick care home residents to hospital. Leaving them to die quietly out of sight turns them into just numbers that can be glossed over with judicious use of graphs and obfuscation.
 

1875

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I think the government were acutely aware that TV pictures of overwhelmed hospitals with patients in corridors (as we saw in Italy) would be very very bad for their image. I truly believe that's why they sent so many people back into care homes / refused to admit sick care home residents to hospital. Leaving them to die quietly out of sight turns them into just numbers that can be glossed over with judicious use of graphs and obfuscation.
I think you are right, the murdering pigs.
 

Jack

Bounce Radge
EXCLUSIVE (to the Mirror) Boris Johnson's top aide was spotted at his parents' home in Durham - more than 250 miles away from his home in London - five days after Number 10 say he started self-isolating.

More lies and deceit from the UK government. I'll bet Dominic Cummings isn't forced to resign.
 

Greenmachine

Bounce Radge
EXCLUSIVE (to the Mirror) Boris Johnson's top aide was spotted at his parents' home in Durham - more than 250 miles away from his home in London - five days after Number 10 say he started self-isolating.

More lies and deceit from the UK government. I'll bet Dominic Cummings isn't forced to resign.
He has to if this is proved.
 

GORDONSMITH7

**** The Hearts
Admin
EXCLUSIVE (to the Mirror) Boris Johnson's top aide was spotted at his parents' home in Durham - more than 250 miles away from his home in London - five days after Number 10 say he started self-isolating.

More lies and deceit from the UK government. I'll bet Dominic Cummings isn't forced to resign.
Reply exclusive to the Guardian too, however
I get the impression it was a joint effort.
Every picture tells an initial story in these relevations . The new 'moderate' turn in my Party, Starmer firing Labour right wing duds right into his Shadow Cabinet including supporting of Blair's genocidal, Iraq intervention.

Don't tell me that I did not warn my amigos on here.

Back to Blairism non commital, let's all work together shite.

Labour tonight...

The British people do not expect there to be one rule for them and another rule for Dominic Cummings. Number 10 needs to provide a very swift explanation for his actions.”

You should have said a swift get the lying gangster tae to fuck.

SNP Tonight

Ian Blackford, the Scottish National party’s Westminster leader, said: “Dominic Cummings’ position is completely untenable – he must resign or be sacked.

No wishy washy stuff from Blackford.

Splendid.

BIG G
 

GORDONSMITH7

**** The Hearts
Admin
I think the government were acutely aware that TV pictures of overwhelmed hospitals with patients in corridors (as we saw in Italy) would be very very bad for their image. I truly believe that's why they sent so many people back into care homes / refused to admit sick care home residents to hospital. Leaving them to die quietly out of sight turns them into just numbers that can be glossed over with judicious use of graphs and obfuscation.
I take it that the Scottish Government doing similar will be explained to me. People fired into care homes from hospitals . Throughout the UK, whether having negative tests or not even tested. It is not rocket science to get evidence that they were negligent, mislead by the Science of course. Will avoid Off the Ball, lickspitle, Jason Leitch to Sturgeon. Fuck that. Between the so called Scientific/Medical advisors in the UK and Scotland, paid by their paymasters, having become as evasive as the politicians, and given a free ride by the rotten MSM.

BIG G
 
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Purple & Green

Radge McRadge
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Can’t seem Dom resigning, can’t see the issue going away.

Will be a significant dunt to confidence in tories, but their majority is so big they probably think they can ride this out.
 

SlovSam

Bounce Radge
I barely know who this Cummings guy is other than he is Johnson's top advisor but he is just a convenient distraction for a week or so.

England's 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 real problem is that they have a staggering number of excess tragic deaths in the region of 55,000 people, and there is still no functioning test, test, test then trace and isolate system in place.

The public are now tiring and confused by the lockdown process in England🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 and there is no clear leadership as to whether the overall objective is herd immunity by stealth or kill the outbreak through aggressive testing and isolation.😥

Scotland's🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 problem is that it might be trying to go down a different path by extending the lockdown and buying time for a more aggressive policy on stamping out the virus but has had a woefully inadequate testing system in place from Day 1 and has barely improved this 55 days later.😥

A good example of this is the Western Isles with next to no cases and protected by water but with test equipment without cartridges.
Source: Angus "Shagger" McNeil:
The local SNP MP.😥

Scotland also cant protect its borders so a little more honesty is required in admitting for all the bravado that really the overall objective ultimately is herd immunity by stealth.😥

The summer should be the time to build up Public Health infrastructure including mass testing but yet another political distraction needs to play out and all the while the triple whammy of winter flu, covid -19 , more lockdowns awaits next winter.😥
 
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Jack

Bounce Radge
I barely know who this Cummings guy is other than he is Johnson top advisor but he is just a convenient distraction for a week or so.

England's 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 real problem is that they have a staggering number of excess tragic deaths in the region of 55,000 people, and there is still no functioning test, test, test then trace and isolate system in place.

The public are now tiring and confused by the lockdown process in England🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 and there is no clear leadership as to whether the overall objective is herd immunity by stealth or kill the outbreak through aggressive testing and isolation.😥

Scotland's🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 problem is that it might be trying to go down a different path by extending the lockdown and buying time for a more aggressive policy on stamping out the virus but has had a woefully inadequate testing system in place from Day 1 and has barely improved this 55 days later.😥

Scotland also cant protect its borders so a little more honesty is required in admitting for all the bravado that really the overall objective ultimately is herd immunity by stealth.😥

The summer should be the time to build up public infrastructure including mass testing but yet another political distraction needs to play out and all the while the triple whammy of winter flu, covid -19 , more lockdowns awaits next winter.😥
I may have said this before but with NHS England taking the lead in ordering the major equipment sourcing I wonder if our access to testing kits is being stymied by England?

Maybe not deliberately in a sort of 'we've got loads but you're not getting it' sort of way more a 'we've fucked up the ordering of the kits so you can only get x' or even 'we can only manage x number of tests so as not to make us look worse than we are you can only get y'.
 
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