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Hattie said:
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Police investigate ‘suspicious’ items after Bondi Beach shooting — 7NEWS.com.au

Footage captured two men armed opening fire from a bridge.
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Jewish festival….. coincidence or terrorist attack 🙈
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Time will tell though despite it's no nonsense rep Australia is woke central these days and has been in the forefront of 'anti zionist' fever. Jews have been subject to violent attack from mobs singing their Bob Vylan chants and all manner of other stuff.

Could just be random psychos but given that's a plural (ie more than one shooter) I fear it may well be targeted.
 
Jack said:
The likes of you have been conflating Jews and Israel for a few years now. I don't find it at all surprising Jews are being targeted in soft situations where the hard of thinking are having a go at Israel.
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I'd suggest then, it is not me doing the conflating Sherlock, with this incident and others being evidence of a plain truth you find uncomfortable. On which note, I'd suggest complacency and complicity on the part of many is the bigger issue here

These people hate jews, and the sooner you wise up to it the better. It's why Israel cannot be allowed to stand to begin with (nor indeed other minorities in the Arab world) , it's why jews are attacked across the world using Israel as a pretext or not, it's why you get stuff like this but not 'retalitaion' against Muslims or anyone else, it's why you have thousands of milquetoast proto nazis fellow travelling with it all.

Dump the patrician racism while you're at it an all. These guys are not hard of thinking, they know exactly what they are about. Stupid white virtue signallers are the hard of thinking, refusing to believe that brown people have agendas of their own and refusing to believe what is under their noses.
 
egb_hibs said:
I'd suggest then, it is not me doing the conflating Sherlock, with this incident and others being evidence of a plain truth you find uncomfortable. On which note, I'd suggest complacency and complicity on the part of many is the bigger issue here

These people hate jews, and the sooner you wise up to it the better. It's why Israel cannot be allowed to stand to begin with (nor indeed other minorities in the Arab world) , it's why jews are attacked across the world using Israel as a pretext or not, it's why you get stuff like this but not 'retalitaion' against Muslims or anyone else, it's why you have thousands of milquetoast proto nazis fellow travelling with it all.

Dump the patrician racism while you're at it an all. These guys are not hard of thinking, they know exactly what they are about. Stupid white virtue signallers are the hard of thinking, refusing to believe that brown people have agendas of their own and refusing to believe what is under their noses.
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Your usual drivel defending the indefensible.
 
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The West's affinity with Philistines is a continuation of long-standing tradition.​

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Yid-slaughtering. It’s been a keystone of cultural identity for Pagans, Christians & Mohammedans, in Europe & the Middle East, for 3,000 years.

What’s that? You dislike the use of the word “Yid”? It’s anti-Semitic, you say?

Well, that’s a promising start. Let’s see how far into this piece your repugnance at anti-Semitism lasts.

Down the ages, Hadrian, the Prophet (pbuh), Longshanks, Chmelnitski, Hitler and many others have made strenuous attempts to eradicate half-dicked Yids from the areas over which they had jurisdiction.

Can anyone give me one example - just one - of the “International Community” dishing-out meaningful punishment for Yid-slaughtering?... and The Lord sending the Plagues of Egypt against Rameses doesn’t count. The Lord is most certainly not a member the “International Community.”

Definitely blackballed.

“Far right” may even be accurate if applied to The Lord.

From Borat’s boys throwing Jews down the well, to Hitler killing 6,000,000 of them, Yid-slaughterers have always gotten away with it.

Six million. Focus on that figure for a while. Especially if you’re in the European country that most vociferously supports the Philistines. It’s more than the population of unoccupied Ireland. Six million. Not killed as an integral part of a military campaign: just minding their own business when they were rounded-up for extermination. What did the “International Community” do in response? It executed a few hundred Germans and Slavs - mainly those who’d killed fair numbers of real people, to augment their high Yid-count. (Is your revulsion at my “anti-Semitism” still holding up?)

Albert Speer’s defence - “We should have known, but we didn’t” - was at “dog / homework” desperation level. It was as lame as Harvey Weinstein or Ron Jeremy using Zimmer frames & wheelchairs in court, though nowhere near as pathetic. Yet Speer got away with it. Unlike Weinstein and Jeremy.

The life of one war criminal being equivalent to the lives of 10,000 Yids seemed to be the benchmark. Many Jewish Palestinians believe the benchmark hasn’t moved much in eighty years.

Everyone’s favourite European country - you know the one: the only one Germany allowed to run extermination camps with almost no supervision in the early 1940s - still has a city of 300,000 called Chmelnitski. It was renamed in honour of the Cossack leader at New Year in 1954. The Soviet Politburo waited until Stalin passed on, as Uncle Joe disliked personality cults. Chmelnitski remains a hero, unlike Uncle Joe.

I don’t wish to trivialise matters, but one meme sums-up my view of The West’s attitude to the current conflict in Palestine. It comes from a rugby match: a 2003 Canterbury v. Wellington semi-final. Dan Carter, New Zealand’s golden boy, is floored by national captain Tana Umaga. It looks a hard-but-fair tackle. The referee disagrees, whistles loudly and beckons to the All Blacks’ skipper. Hands on hips, wide-eyed, open-mouthed and suspecting two-tier enforcement, Umaga walks over and politely reminds the ref, “It’s not Tiddlywinks, mate!”

The West seems to believe everything is tiddlywinks. Except using unacceptable language. I’ve not checked recently, but Tiddlywinks is not traditionally a popular Middle Eastern pastime.

I don’t care what a sanctified fictitious tome entitles you to do. I don’t care how big a “Game of Thrones” fan you are, which alpha male “G.o.T.” character gives you a hard-on when you fantasise about him or how many Emmys the relevant actor won. If you are ever in a position of conquering warlord, with power of life or death over an enemy whom you don’t intend to totally exterminate, Rule One is straightforward: “Don’t Rape Their Women.” Nothing annoys rational people more than having their women raped. Not nasty words, not mis-gendering, not climatic irregularities, not even Martin Lewis. Don’t do it. The Red Army in Berlin in 1945, surveying the devastation, was justifiably confident they’d get away with it. Other than in that situation, do not succumb to temptation. Just say “No!”

Until recently, I thought the “Dr. Grim” column in Private Eye was satirical - possibly even written by Chris Morris, such was it’s brilliance. One edition, running through SE Asian countries and expressing incomprehension that they didn’t celebrate diversity, play tennis on grass or watch “Zulu” and “Jason & the Argonauts” on Boxing Day, was of Peter Cook standard. It appears that Dr. Grim is a real person and the column is genuine. Dr. Grim has recently been to Gaza. A maiden aunt in an Edwardian farce might have worked out why Dr. Grim encountered so many Philistines who’d been randomly shot in the groin region by Jewish Palestinian soldiers, but the physician was as mystified as he was appalled. If only Philistines could be sheltered as effectively as The West's middle-classes.

Public relations is always a problem for people responding vengefully to gang-rapists taking turns at their women. The level of stigma attached to having your women gang-raped varies from culture to culture, but there is a stigma in every culture and the level is almost universally high. Consequently, drawing attention to the reason for violent retribution is difficult. Few people want the gang-rape of their women to be widely publicised. Fewer want the victims further traumatised by being reminded of their ordeal.

If an armed unit, belonging to a subject group that saw itself as being victims of oppression by a more powerful neighbour, indulged in a gang-rape spree, on a military incursion into territory governed by any historical leader who might be admired in today’s Middle East (The Dalai Lama, Mother Teresa & the Moriori are not on that list) its members would be under no illusions as to the fate that would befall their own people, should they return to their own manor, blow raspberries, thumb their noses and shout “Homey!” after the gang-bang.

There would be no “Homey,” regardless of the intellectual gymnastics those citing the abstract concept of “International Law” might attempt.

It's not Tig.

And it’s not Tiddlywinks.

Neither Rameses nor Nebuchadnezzar, who expelled the original Philistines from Gaza, would have contemplated negotiation. Crassus, Caesar & Hadrian - who expelled all Jews from Jerusalem & Judea and hunted them in caves to destroy Shimon bar Kokhba’s renegade Jewish state (it didn’t include Jerusalem but may have encompassed Minsk & Gomel, if Philistine supporters are to be believed) - weren’t partial to ceasefires. Mohammed (pbuh) wiped-out the Banu Qurayza for merely opening negotiations with Mecca’s pagan forces. Attila, Genghis, Longshanks - who expelled all Jews from England, after a bout of Yid-slaughtering - & Timur would no more grasp the concept of a restraining order than would Ismail Haniyeh and Yahya Sinwar. Vlad Tepes might have augmented his silence at one of his boys inserting a twig into a suspected rapist with something more exemplary. Shockingly, the Impaler would have seen no equivalence between inserting the twig and actual rape. Itzcoatl, Shaka & Mao would not have sought condemnatory resolutions from the United Nations.

No “experts” would have been needed to decide whether a genocide had been committed. The rapists’ people would have been annihilated. Every man, every woman, every child, except for maybe a handful sold into slavery... and the survivors’ descendants wouldn’t have been in line for reparations a few generations down the line.

I’m confident almost all those marching in support of Philistines would be aghast at suggestions that bear-baiting, cock-fighting, hare-coursing or fox-hunting should be decriminalised. Calls to end immunity from retribution for Yid-slaughtering, however, seem to irk them.

It’s a strange thing that virtually none of those who are apoplectic about Jewish Palestinian efforts to physically enforce a moratorium on Yid-slaughtering indulge in the practice themselves. They’re almost akin to advocates of the Latin Mass, most of whom rarely attend services and few of whom speak Latin. I have a theory that, deep down, they’re well-meaning innocents: defending traditions because they yearn for a simpler life, where “Penny for the Guy?”, wassailing and ducking stools would be welcome diversions from the drudgery of public sector employment. This would explain why Jewish Palestinian attempts to abolish Yid-slaughtering attract outrage, while slaughtering Nubians - a modern fad, with little historical tradition - produces few strong opinions amongst either advocates or abolitionists.

I see “Spartacus” is on again on Boxing Day. Perhaps a Nubian throwing a spear at Sir Ian McKellen or Stephen Fry (in the absence of Laurence Olivier) might incite insurrection in our middle class activist community, but I doubt it. Besides, they’ll all be watching Jimmy Stewart on the other side. It’s a wonderful life.

- Art Haan-Wilson.



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Smurf said:
Seriously?
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Just showing solidarity with the noble freedom fighters against the evil hidden agenda (you know the one that’s entirely separate from Jews themselves, obvs).

The whole Zionism thing has people circling perilously close to “they got what they deserved”, imo.

This is not “resistance”.
 
aggie said:
Just showing solidarity with the noble freedom fighters against the evil hidden agenda (you know the one that’s entirely separate from Jews themselves, obvs).

The whole Zionism thing has people circling perilously close to “they got what they deserved”, imo.

This is not “resistance”.
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Perilously close? I think many have more than arrived.
 
This is terrible. The poor families

We all know though that atrocities like this are just going to continue with terrible regularity until there is a peaceful, equitable and lawful end to the conflict in the Middle East. It’s a weeping sore.
 
Bofahibee said:
This is terrible. The poor families

We all know though that atrocities like this are just going to continue with terrible regularity until there is a peaceful, equitable and lawful end to the conflict in the Middle East. It’s a weeping sore.
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It's just awful. And it seems clear that it was a targeted attack on Jewish people, given the gunmen didn't randomly shoot and told some people to 'go away'.
 
Bangkokhibby said:
What is the point of a terror watchlist if those on the list can carry out attacks?
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I think there is some sort of ranking as to how likely people are to carry out an attack. Obviously that's not an exact science. But what's the alternative? Internment? Electronic tagging without due process?
 
Archie said:
I think there is some sort of ranking as to how likely people are to carry out an attack. Obviously that's not an exact science. But what's the alternative? Internment? Electronic tagging without due process?
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Or in some cases deportation would be a solution.
 
Archie said:
I think there is some sort of ranking as to how likely people are to carry out an attack. Obviously that's not an exact science. But what's the alternative? Internment? Electronic tagging without due process?
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I'm not saying there's NO point. I'm sure there must be. Just seems utterly pointless with 12 people dead and 29 wounded to say "We knew about him, wrong 'un"
 
Jack said:
Your usual drivel defending the indefensible.
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What are you babbling about?

Islamists have killed ~100 folk in the UK and thousands across Europe and the US. Islamic rape gangs have raped, trafficked, tortured and sometimes murdered tens of thousands. Across the world islamists murder and oppress Christians, women, gays, and trade unionists and engage in the racial extermination of blacks.

See much retaliatory mass murder? Me neither.

And yet we have mealy mouthed rationalisation of Pakistanis, north Africans and others purportedly retaliating on behalf of Palestinians from people who denounce as racist complaints about sexual assault.

Simpleton stuff, as is the feverish obsession with zionists that offers succour to these guys.
 
Turns out one of my sprogs best pals was caught up in the crossfire. Thankfully OK though one in her circle got shot.
 
aggie said:
Just showing solidarity with the noble freedom fighters against the evil hidden agenda (you know the one that’s entirely separate from Jews themselves, obvs).

The whole Zionism thing has people circling perilously close to “they got what they deserved”, imo.

This is not “resistance”.
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Frightened people who can't face what is coming down the pike and will do anything to rationalise and appease.
 
Archie said:
What would you be deporting people for - a suspicion? And where would you deport people to? And what if they were British?
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Well the question arises as to why the security services have them on a watch list.
 
Archie said:
What would you be deporting people for - a suspicion? And where would you deport people to? And what if they were British?
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If they are British then you make them aware they are being monitored.

If they still make the watch list then it's time to take action against them.
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
Yep mate but the security services said they have suspicions on thousands of folk. So they must know who those folk are.
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If they know who these people are, as Archie says , what can yi deport them for?
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
Well the question arises as to why the security services have them on a watch list.
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I would want to keep a track on people who had shown signs of radicalisation that could be adjudged to escalate. I guess that could come from many sources. But we don't live in a police state and you can't arrest people on a vague suspicion of what they might do. We can have prosecutions for conspiracy, but you have to do that based on evidence.
 
I went to Bondi Beach back in 2001 when I was travelling solo in Australia.
Loads of UK backpackers there, and hostels everywhere.
Wouldn't be surprised if there were British travellers amongst those affected by this.
Terrible tragedy.
 
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