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Anyone following it, and have any opinions?
I find it quite funny the amount of small new independent Indy parties popping up with certain Salmond allies involved, some of them pretty loony. Watching James Mathews sky journalist frothing at the mouth not hiding his hatred of people who care about Scotland just makes me want to vote for the SNP more.My priority is independence, we can deal with the cults afterwards, when let's be honest, they may be irrelevant in a newly independent Scotland where I think a good Scottish Socialist/ Labour Party would clean up.
I find Salmond a smart but smarmy bastard, Sturgeon a good 'cooncil' leader but too slow to push for what the independence movement want, she seems to enjoy her current role too much, I have never liked Macaskill, if that is the SNP left, we are fucked, and Cherry I cannae take too much as others love her.
The infighting sometimes smacks of third party involvement but that makes you sound like a loony, possibly deliberately so?
Took a wee interest in it a few weeks back but in recent weeks on twitter it’s just become tedious reading the same guff from the same folk day after day.Anyone following it, and have any opinions?
My priority is independence, we can deal with the cults afterwards, when let's be honest, they may be irrelevant in a newly independent Scotland where I think a good Scottish Socialist/ Labour Party would clean up.
I find Salmond a smart but smarmy bastard, Sturgeon a good 'cooncil' leader but too slow to push for what the independence movement want, she seems to enjoy her current role too much, I have never liked Macaskill, if that is the SNP left, we are fucked, and Cherry I cannae take too much as others love her.
The infighting sometimes smacks of third party involvement but that makes you sound like a loony, possibly deliberately so?
You might have seen my tweets, but I think you are right - I've one politics twitter group where the Salmond affair is the central topic daily and the absolute disgust at the actions of Sturgeon trying to shut down the investigations and I've another WhatsApp group which is full of people who just don't care about it. "Who cares if she broke the code, she's so popular, and it was a long time ago anyway"Took a wee interest in it a few weeks back but in recent weeks on twitter it’s just become tedious reading the same guff from the same folk day after day.
Totally zoned out now and reckon most outside the wee bubble are the same.
To be fair if someone was complicit in a plot to try and get me jailed for rape I doubt drifting off quietly is something I would be thinking of.If he had any iota of dignity and integrity, he'd drift off quietly into the background
Exactly, that statement makes out like a guilty man escaping justice ffsTo be fair if someone was complicit in a plot to try and get me jailed for rape I doubt drifting off quietly is something I would be thinking of.
Aye , in yer dreams.Well it’s all kicked off now.
quite a sight seeing the first minister get Rag dolled by Willie Rennie
Did you see today’s exchange?Aye , in yer dreams.
Take away all political leanings, NS is by far the person I would want leading me and my country than any other politician on offer.
Even W Rennie ??
Had Salmond been convicted of rape he'd be in the gaol. The reason he's not is because he had a defence witness say that the rape couldn't have happened because the woman making the allegation wasn't at the event and location she claimed. The jury believed Salmond's defence.Anyone following it, and have any opinions?
Yes I did, and I seen an opportunist little sleaze ball, attacking someone under so many different pressures .Did you see today’s exchange?
Aye , in yer dreams.
Take away all political leanings, NS is by far the person I would want leading me and my country than any other politician on offer.
Even W Rennie ??
My leanings are nationalist, and I wouldn't want any of the opposition politicians running the country.
I don't think she'll deliver independence, so I wouldn't be upset if she stepped aside and passed on to an snp colleague who can deliver independence.
I saw today's exchange [and by today I mean yesterday].Did you see today’s exchange?
I think it's being lined up for Angus Robertson - who will be even more divisive. I think Joanna Cherry might have been that person but she's clearly damaged goods after all the friendly fire inflicted on her. I like Keith Brown and I'd happily support Ian Blackford but I don't think they want it. Maybe Stewart Hosie who inflicted a fair bit of damage on himself a while back - but this is another snp schism - all the power is in Holyrood, but a fair bit of the talent is at Westminster and was hindered from moving to Holyrood.I feel the same P&G, however I cannot think of anyone better who could do it, can you?
I think her answer to Rennie might be the undoing of her.I saw today's exchange [and by today I mean yesterday].
Rooth the Mooth used the usual bully tactics and got put in her place.
Jackie Baillie came across as a Salmond fan which given she's on the enquiry board was nothing short of ridiculous.
To say Wullie Rennie ragdolled anyone is just a fantasy. He was his usual ineffectual weak-minded arsehole who regurgitated something Bailie had already been shot down for.
I think it's being lined up for Angus Robertson - who will be even more divisive. I think Joanna Cherry might have been that person but she's clearly damaged goods after all the friendly fire inflicted on her. I like Keith Brown and I'd happily support Ian Blackford but I don't think they want it. Maybe Stewart Hosie who inflicted a fair bit of damage on himself a while back - but this is another snp schism - all the power is in Holyrood, but a fair bit of the talent is at Westminster and was hindered from moving to Holyrood.
I really don't know, it seems to me that there's a really big fracture in the party and it's believed it has lost 50,000 members in the last couple of years. My membership expires in June, and I can't see me renewing it.
I've always thought that the SNP was never a political party as such but a vehicle for independence and when that's achieved there will be no more need for them.Does anyone think there's room for two or more bona fide independence parties?
The SNP has always been a bit of an odd political cabal in my opinion with a broad spectrum of political views. Its been referred to as the Tartan Tories in the distant past then a huge influx of new members a few years ago saw that well and truly gubbed.
Holding together such a diverse range of views has been some achievement in itself and I'm surprised the unity has been so strong - up till now.
Trust that wee fat egotistical jambo to blow that out the water. He was not guilty of all the charges laid against him but his character type was never going to do the cause any good once the inevitable revelations broke.
Does anyone think there's room for two or more bona fide independence parties?
The SNP has always been a bit of an odd political cabal in my opinion with a broad spectrum of political views. Its been referred to as the Tartan Tories in the distant past then a huge influx of new members a few years ago saw that well and truly gubbed.
Holding together such a diverse range of views has been some achievement in itself and I'm surprised the unity has been so strong - up till now.
Trust that wee fat egotistical jambo to blow that out the water. He was not guilty of all the charges laid against him but his character type was never going to do the cause any good once the inevitable revelations broke.
I wonder how much of that rise is Labour voters who can't bare the thought of voting SNP?SNP vote in 2011 election was 45%, it seems to have flatlined since. Yet over the same period support for indy has risen from 30% to over 50%.
It does seem clear that the snp isn't the heart and soul of the independence movement in the way it once was.
Alyn Smith would be my personal favourite for when Nicola moves on.I think it's being lined up for Angus Robertson - who will be even more divisive. I think Joanna Cherry might have been that person but she's clearly damaged goods after all the friendly fire inflicted on her. I like Keith Brown and I'd happily support Ian Blackford but I don't think they want it. Maybe Stewart Hosie who inflicted a fair bit of damage on himself a while back - but this is another snp schism - all the power is in Holyrood, but a fair bit of the talent is at Westminster and was hindered from moving to Holyrood.
I really don't know, it seems to me that there's a really big fracture in the party and it's believed it has lost 50,000 members in the last couple of years. My membership expires in June, and I can't see me renewing it.
I think the ongoing shenanigans have shown that this is now a must. The SNP have got to the position of strength that they are in nowadays because they are 'the party of independence' and the only real option for independence minded voters.Does anyone think there's room for two or more bona fide independence parties?
Alyn Smith would be my personal favourite for when Nicola moves on.
Media vultures everywhere outside Holyrood, if only they showed the level of interest in Patel, Williamson, Jenirik, Hancock and Johnson corrupt activities.
That's fair enough, I've just found him a very good listen too recently, liked Cherry but she's probably damaged goods now sadly.I think Alyn Smith as leader would seal the deal on me leaving the snp, never to return and finding another home for my independence vote.
The national interest in the case...yeah you're right spot on.
Wtf did he talk about for 6 or 7 hours?I've never watched more than five minutes of parliament for about 30 years.
I've watched all of that - I'm knackered!
Salmond's closing remarks.....it just highlights the farcical nature of where we are.
Wtf did he talk about for 6 or 7 hours?
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