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Purple & Green said:
What if the woman is one of them new fangled women, with a cock. Is it still a women’s right to
choose?
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Entertaining little chat on that general topic. No doubt people with a penis obsession such as @EH17 Jimmy will enjoy

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Rocky said:
Entertaining little chat on that general topic. No doubt people with a penis obsession such as @EH17 Jimmy will enjoy

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Oooer missus indeed
 
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Some people don't seem to actually get the ruling.

The ruling states it's not a constitutional right abortion....it's now upto each state.

The constitutional right argument had went far too far.
As technically speaking...until the child left the womb,it was your constitutional right to have an abortion.
Which is no better than murder tobe Frank.
 
moathibby said:
Is a women's right to chose.End of.
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Indeed.

Is this in relation to Roe v Wade being overturned in the USA?

I follow this American lawyers You Tube channel, and he did a good video on it (I'd recommend the channel if you are interested in how the law relates to some of the news that comes out of the god ol US of A).

Some of the hypocrisy and cherry picking of history by the supreme court judges is frankly staggering.

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What if the woman “chooses” to keep the baby but the Father doesn’t want to support her or the child???? Should he be made pay child support etc??? Because if he has no say if the woman aborts his child or not if the woman chooses abortion and it’s only her right to choose then why should he be made pay for a child if she chooses to keep the baby. It’s a much more complicated issue than just a woman’s right to choose in my opinion.
 
CorkHibee1875 said:
What if the woman “chooses” to keep the baby but the Father doesn’t want to support her or the child???? Should he be made pay child support etc??? Because if he has no say if the woman aborts his child or not if the woman chooses abortion and it’s only her right to choose then why should he be made pay for a child if she chooses to keep the baby. It’s a much more complicated issue than just a woman’s right to choose in my opinion.
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He should absolutely pay to support his child.
 
CorkHibee1875 said:
What if the woman “chooses” to keep the baby but the Father doesn’t want to support her or the child???? Should he be made pay child support etc??? Because if he has no say if the woman aborts his child or not if the woman chooses abortion and it’s only her right to choose then why should he be made pay for a child if she chooses to keep the baby. It’s a much more complicated issue than just a woman’s right to choose in my opinion.
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he should have jumped off at Haymarket if he didn't want the responsibility of fathering a child.
 
Doc Shrink said:
He should absolutely pay to support his child.
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But why should he be forced to support HIS child if he doesn’t get a say if his child gets aborted. It’s a complete hypocritical situation. Gets zero say on if his child gets aborted but should be forced to pay child support. I think all fathers btw need to fully support their children full stop but find this it’s a woman’s right to choose argument extremely hypocritical. At what point does her right to choose become not ok??? 12 weeks??? Over 22 weeks when the fetus is viable??? Up to the point of birth??? When does the choice not become ok or is it ok right up to the point of birth??? Again I think it’s a much more complicated issue than just a woman’s right to choose and that’s case closed.
 
barney said:
he should have jumped off at Haymarket if he didn't want the responsibility of fathering a child.
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You’re missing my point here. Why doesn’t he get a say if his child lives or dies but has no choice but to pay up if the woman decides to keep the baby. Basically it’s none of his business if she aborts his baby but it is his business if she keeps the child. That’s completely hypocritical in my opinion.
 
CorkHibee1875 said:
You’re missing my point here. Why doesn’t he get a say if his child lives or dies but has no choice but to pay up if the woman decides to keep the baby. Basically it’s none of his business if she aborts his baby but it is his business if she keeps the child. That’s completely hypocritical in my opinion.
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I don't think it's an apples with apples comparison. Nobody is saying the father has no right to input, but the final decision has to be made by the person carrying the child, that's just biology surely?

There are so many variables when it comes to the pregnancy. Was it intentional, was it wanted, was it the result of consent, are there health concerns to the mother or the child if the fetus is carried to term. Again, all issues for the woman carrying the fetus to have the final say on. None of that is relevant to supporting the child when it is born, failing to do so would simply be neglect.
 
Doc Shrink said:
Worked for me.
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CorkHibee1875 said:
You’re missing my point here. Why doesn’t he get a say if his child lives or dies but has no choice but to pay up if the woman decides to keep the baby. Basically it’s none of his business if she aborts his baby but it is his business if she keeps the child. That’s completely hypocritical in my opinion.
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simples - his choice ended when he decided to unload inside.
 
CorkHibee1875 said:
You’re missing my point here. Why doesn’t he get a say if his child lives or dies but has no choice but to pay up if the woman decides to keep the baby. Basically it’s none of his business if she aborts his baby but it is his business if she keeps the child. That’s completely hypocritical in my opinion.
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You might have a point...

...if men could also have babies (yes, I am aware etc)
 
That'swhy I had to conceed the point 'it's a person who could get pregnant's right to chose'.
 
CorkHibee1875 said:
You’re missing my point here. Why doesn’t he get a say if his child lives or dies but has no choice but to pay up if the woman decides to keep the baby. Basically it’s none of his business if she aborts his baby but it is his business if she keeps the child. That’s completely hypocritical in my opinion.
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It's fairly simple, he takes responsibility for his own contraception and accepts that he runs the risk of it failing and if it does he's at the mercy of the expectant mother as to whether he's on the hook for having and supporting a kid or not. If he doesn't fancy the odds he has the choice to keep it in his pants.
 
CorkHibee1875 said:
You’re missing my point here. Why doesn’t he get a say if his child lives or dies but has no choice but to pay up if the woman decides to keep the baby. Basically it’s none of his business if she aborts his baby but it is his business if she keeps the child. That’s completely hypocritical in my opinion.
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The woman carries the child and all that goes with that.
It's 100% her choice what happens with the pregnancy as no-one man or woman should be allowed to decide what is right for the pregnant woman.
If she keeps the child then the man helps pay for its upkeep.
If a man feels any different either get the snip or don't have sex.
Simples
 
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