Molde 3 v 0 Hibernian

SKII · Aug 17, 2018

Sir Shrink said:
OGS?

Oh goodness sake...

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer

Purple & Green · Aug 17, 2018

There’s some players give me nightmares but not this group.

I love Efe, so does Neil - he’s the only player who has been on the pitch for every minute of every game so far.

Purple & Green · Aug 17, 2018

It was a relatively young side too -average age 26 down to 25 when Hyndland came on

London Bouncer · Aug 17, 2018

Never a 3-0 game but also never a game we looked like winning.

Defensively poor considering Molde had about three attacks and scored them all, one of which was a long ball punted into the box and another coming from a Paul Hanlon short corner (explain that one to me?).

SKII · Aug 17, 2018

Revealed: How much Hibs will earn from Europa League participation

Jack · Aug 17, 2018

SKII said:
Revealed: How much Hibs will earn from Europa League participation

I'm assuming from all that Hibs would be responsible for their own expenses, travel, hotels etc.?

Hammi · Aug 17, 2018

Jack said:
I'm assuming from all that Hibs would be responsible for their own expenses, travel, hotels etc.?

Yeah.
I'm sure someone said sometime, that on St Johnstone euro trip whenever it was.
Ended up costing them money.

Shows how important it is to not go out straight away

Greenmachine · Aug 17, 2018

You have to factor in costs like chartering flights, hotels etc...and not forgetting of course the upcoming fine from UEFA which hopefully won't be as heavy as feared. All that withstanding we will have made a fair bit of money from our three ties in the Europa Cup and I think we have done quite well overall. I love the European nights at Easter Road and I really hope we can qualify again this season.

Greenmachine · Aug 17, 2018

1875 said:
I am back after 21 hours travelling to and from Norway and watching Hibs. Whilst we are out of Europe, I was immensly proud of Hibernian's acheivements. It wisnae to be last last night, but the Hibs go marching on.

Blaming individual players is just wrong. We live as a team and die as a team, that is the players, club, management and us the supporters.

Spot on. One thing I hate is when individual players are singled out by some people for blame when we have a bad result. Football is a team game and always will be. Hibs have indeed done well in these three ties given the time of year we are playing and the loss of key players. We are still assembling our squad for the season and I am confident we will have a strong competitive team for the season ahead.

Chris G Whyte · Aug 17, 2018

SKII said:
£181 million a year - most of it going to the Uglies - compared to the BILLIONS being ploughed in elsewhere.

Don't forget, that's what clubs are GENERATING - not what's necessarily being ploughed in. Celtic charge around £400 per season book, at best, and 60,000 muppets are buying them. That, alone, generates them £24,000,000 a year before we count another bean. They earned £26,000,000 from last year's Champion's League, not including gates, hospitality or sponsorship, and our game gets about £17,000,000 from broadcasting (the majority is from Sky and goes to the Old Firm, with a sub-£2,000,000 pittance from the BBC).

That means that Celtic alone generated 37% of all the revenue in Scotland, and it's likely closer to 40% of it when we include all the other things we didn't mention; these include European gates, sponsorship, player sales, hospitality and merchandise. Who knows what CelticTV makes, and my 40% suggestion is extremely conservative.

We're potentially the only league set up in the world that has this disparity. It needs to change.

It won't.

A cursory glance at the numbers highlight that termination of our BBC deal would provide the opportunity to build a Scottish subscription service for football content. Even if we only picked the low-hanging fruit, it'd be more lucrative than the insult we get from the BBC.

I just wish we could get rid of the crooks that run our game.

I doubt there's a more useless conglomerate in any national institution in the world.

Dub · Aug 17, 2018

Purple & Green said:
Really?

I've got a map of europe with the relevant [at that time] data on who gets what from SKY. Scotland received £18.75M whilst Norway received £35M so saying they get double is pretty near on the mark.

Purple & Green · Aug 17, 2018

Dub said:
I've got a map of europe with the relevant [at that time] data on who gets what from SKY. Scotland received £18.75M whilst Norway received £35M so saying they get double is pretty near on the mark.

Thanks - I want questioning the validity, I was just a bit stunned!

joethehibby · Aug 17, 2018

1875 said:
I am back after 21 hours travelling to and from Norway and watching Hibs. Whilst we are out of Europe, I was immensly proud of Hibernian's acheivements. It wisnae to be last last night, but the Hibs go marching on.

Blaming individual players is just wrong. We live as a team and die as a team, that is the players, club, management and us the supporters.

Personally ,, I don't blame Efe for the loss to Molde , your correct we win and lose as a team . I think the argument is whether Efe can defend or not . Surely a defender 's number one priority is to defend and link up with the midfield ( we dont do hoof ball ) . Count the winning tackles in a game by each of our back three/five if SDG is there and I'd be very surprised if Efe compares well , also misplaced passes . All very well his runs up the park now and again and occasional goal , so it's down to preference . For some it's reliabilty where'as for others its errors plus occassional brilliance , you take your pick . We all know what Neil prefers . .

Dub · Aug 17, 2018

I've posted the map to you on twitter mate [emoji106]

Purple & Green said:
Thanks - I want questioning the validity, I was just a bit stunned!

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SuperTortolano · Aug 18, 2018

Purple & Green said:
Really?

Yes I believe they get about 35 million for the TV rights. Saw a breakdown on another thread or forum. We are near the bottom of the barrel.

Purple & Green · Aug 18, 2018

SuperTortolano said:
Yes I believe they get about 35 million for the TV rights. Saw a breakdown on another thread or forum. We are near the bottom of the barrel.

Thanks - you wonder how these are done

SKII · Aug 18, 2018

Here's one of those tv deal maps. Denmark is close to us in population terms...

joethehibby · Aug 18, 2018

Chris G Whyte said:
Don't forget, that's what clubs are GENERATING - not what's necessarily being ploughed in. Celtic charge around £400 per season book, at best, and 60,000 muppets are buying them. That, alone, generates them £24,000,000 a year before we count another bean. They earned £26,000,000 from last year's Champion's League, not including gates, hospitality or sponsorship, and our game gets about £17,000,000 from broadcasting (the majority is from Sky and goes to the Old Firm, with a sub-£2,000,000 pittance from the BBC).

That means that Celtic alone generated 37% of all the revenue in Scotland, and it's likely closer to 40% of it when we include all the other things we didn't mention; these include European gates, sponsorship, player sales, hospitality and merchandise. Who knows what CelticTV makes, and my 40% suggestion is extremely conservative.

We're potentially the only league set up in the world that has this disparity. It needs to change.

It won't.

A cursory glance at the numbers highlight that termination of our BBC deal would provide the opportunity to build a Scottish subscription service for football content. Even if we only picked the low-hanging fruit, it'd be more lucrative than the insult we get from the BBC.

I just wish we could get rid of the crooks that run our game.

I doubt there's a more useless conglomerate in any national institution in the world.

And celtic moan about lack of domestic competition affecting their performance in europe

Greenmachine · Aug 18, 2018

SKII said:
Here's one of those tv deal maps. Denmark is close to us in population terms...

...and they and Croatia are for me are the benchmark nations Scottish football should be using to navigate the way forward.

SKII · Aug 18, 2018

Greenmachine said:
...and they and Croatia are for me are the benchmark nations Scottish football should be using to navigate the way forward.

Lifestyle is a major factor in that. The Scottish relationship with alcohol being one barrier and the poor engagement in sport and healthy activities in all but the middle/upper classes. All our world class sports stars are fairly affluent. Hoy, Grainger, Murray...

Chris G Whyte · Aug 18, 2018

joethehibby said:
And celtic moan about lack of domestic competition affecting their performance in europe

It's a legitimate complaint.

What frustrates me, is that they've deliberately chased policies that have exasperated the problem and then blamed everyone else for it happening.

The lack of self-awareness they show is absolutely astonishing.

SKII · Aug 18, 2018

Chris G Whyte said:
It's a legitimate complaint.

What frustrates me, is that they've deliberately chased policies that have exasperated the problem and then blamed everyone else for it happening.

The lack of self-awareness they show is absolutely astonishing.

Freudian slip?

SKII · Aug 18, 2018

That laddie signed for his Austrian suitors for silly money today. 5 year deal that will make him a millionaire. Pity he didn't do it a few days earlier

1875 · Aug 18, 2018

I enjoyed the trip and was impressed at how the locals and Hibs fans got on. Very friendly atmosphere and lots of good Hibs lads there.
I met a chap who apparently is quite well known on here - and gets a hard time according to his chum. Two decent lads.
In fact that Underwear fella bought the 6 of us a bag of crisps unasked. It was a big bag too and probably didn't come cheap, so give the guy a break eh.

SKII · Aug 18, 2018

1875 said:

Are you drinking the vino tinto?

Who are you quoting and from where? :lookaround:

1875 · Aug 18, 2018

SKII said:
Are you drinking the vino tinto?

Who are you quoting and from where?

Its a long story, Undercover Elephant stuff!

SKII · Aug 18, 2018

1875 said:
Its a long story, Undercover Elephant stuff!

You're on the Fix?

1875 · Aug 18, 2018

SKII said:
You're on the Fix?

Not at all, still drying out on a number of levels after recent adventures!

Doc Shrink · Aug 18, 2018

1875 said:
Not at all, still drying out on a number of levels after recent adventures!

Me too!

Purple & Green · Aug 19, 2018

SKII said:
Lifestyle is a major factor in that. The Scottish relationship with alcohol being one barrier and the poor engagement in sport and healthy activities in all but the middle/upper classes. All our world class sports stars are fairly affluent. Hoy, Grainger, Murray...

And I still think we make it too hard for children to access sport at all levels. That’s a lack of coordination issue.

SKII · Aug 19, 2018

Purple & Green said:
And I still think we make it too hard for children to access sport at all levels. That’s a lack of coordination issue.

And it's too expensive

jock3 · Aug 19, 2018

I blame the huge government cuts to council budgets. Every year it becomes more difficult to provide and main facilities for working class kids.

Jack · Aug 19, 2018

jock3 said:
I blame the huge government cuts to council budgets. Every year it becomes more difficult to provide and main facilities for working class kids.

I'm sure we've all seen in our travels abroad even as we've gone through quite small villages smart multi sports facilities and regularly used. What's been done and achieved by the likes of Iceland is there for all to see but these facilities can be found in what we think of as 3rd world countries. I've no idea how these are paid for iro building costs or to the clients or staffed but they are busy.

How a supposedly wealthy country like Scotland doesn't seem to get close to this is a sad reflection on our priorities.

SKII · Aug 19, 2018

jock3 said:
I blame the huge government cuts to council budgets. Every year it becomes more difficult to provide and main facilities for working class kids.

It's part of it. Every time their budget is limited there are only a few things they can trim as excess fat and there are other things they target to raise monies - the motorist, leisure facilities etc
The countries who do well have a national priority, coordinated at government level, with investment. But it's not that in isolation- there has to be a cultural shift. Croatia don't have the same social challenges as we do with regards to teenage drinking, for example.

Purple & Green · Aug 19, 2018

jock3 said:
I blame the huge government cuts to council budgets. Every year it becomes more difficult to provide and main facilities for working class kids.

My view and experience is that it’s much more than money - there seems to be plenty of money at early point of entry and at elite level but not enough in between which is where most kids are at. That might lead me to surmise that supply is profitable at those points.

Big problem where I live now is the lack of parent friendly out of school child care, which has a knock on effect on leisure class access. And then everything is put on a Saturday morning but a child can only be in one place at a time.

Finland I believe has a much more coordinated approach, but I don’t think we’ll see anything like that anytime soon because our biggest political issues are well you know. We don’t need to go over them again.

Stanton Spence · Aug 24, 2018

Sempre verde 07 said:
You say flawed genius, I say unpredictable liability.

I would say predicable and as much as it pains me and I genuinely mean this but watch this space come 4.50 ish tomorrow

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