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Aberdeen V Hibernian

When your striker gets slated on the BBC for his “ineptitude” you know it’s time to start looking for new strikers although to be fair what I think we really lack is a most robust defence and a return to three at the back.


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News today is that doidge is shite, gunts are shite, and Elvis is dead.

I hope they nasty Hibs supporters who gave up a day and the fat end of £50 for ticket and travel didn't put too much pressure on doidge to sco or for Hibs to see a 1 goal lead out with 10 minutes to go, against 10 men against a team in their worst run of form for years.
 
Taxi for Heckingbottom and take the rest of your shite signings with you enough is enough bring back duff Jim ????
 
Two points from the bottom of the league but there is improvements.
 
Two points from the bottom of the league but there is improvements.
There's some improvement yes but how long do you give a manager that's had one league win since March and his team show no sign of being able to consistently score goals.
 
There's some improvement yes but how long do you give a manager that's had one league win since March and his team show no sign of being able to consistently score goals.

Good inter play and creating chances is the only improvement, but these don't win you games and that's why we are in the position we are in and that's down to Heck & Co. He should have been gone before the Celtic match but our current regime don't have the balls to do it mate, what a mess!!
 
Good inter play and creating chances is the only improvement, but these don't win you games and that's why we are in the position we are in and that's down to Heckingbottom. He should have been gone before the Celtic match but our current regime don't have the balls to do it mate, what a mess!!
Leeann and co must know they've made a mistake appointing Heckingbottom, just wonder how long it will take before they finally admit it and punt him
 
Leeann and co must know they've made a mistake appointing Heckingbottom, just wonder how long it will take before they finally admit it and punt him

I wouldn't hold your breath on that happening.
 
I wouldn't hold your breath on that happening.
Agreed, in all likelihood they'll stick with him till about February and risk us getting relegated
 
Listened to reports from the game on BBCsportsound.
So can only comment on what I've heard and read.
The team. Well nobody looked to be playing out of position, looked pretty balanced with players available.
According to radio we played well, good link up play, plenty of chances.
We lead the game for a long time against 10 men.
Haven't seen goals so don't know if it was yet another defensive error.
Heard the chances that Doige had, commentators were going crazy with the one were he should have squared it to Allan. Seems a lot of chances squandered by someone who was used to playing a lone striker role for Forrest Green and regularly scored this I take it was the reason Heckingbottom or whoever signed him, as a lone striker.
Since this seems to be his preferred system does Heckingbottom
Keep faith with Doidge which in fairness doesn't seem to be working.
Stick with 1 up front and replace him with Flo or Oli none of which could fill that role.
Or go for broke and try a combination of 2 of them upfront.
Unfortunately he seems to be a one trick pony so looks like lone striker for the foreseeable
A lot of us would be happy with a draw today before the match but again we find ourselves in the ascendancy only to come crashing down to earth by a late goal.
I'm not saying Heckingbottom was right in not going in for the kill but we should have been able to hold on for a win.
If Heckingbottom does stay and plays the same style then I'm sorry but i don't think any of our current strikers fit the bill.
Something has to change.
 
Folk keep saying we played well

Okay

But we still couldn't win against a team with ten men for 40 minutes.

This is worrying. Hecky must go.


It's
 
Folk keep saying we played well

Okay

But we still couldn't win against a team with ten men for 40 minutes.

This is worrying. Hecky must go.


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We did play well.

Were you at the game?
 
We did play well.

Were you at the game?

Silence is golden, I will pressume that is a no?
 
Watched in on Hibs TV. We started well and drifted in and out of the game. Against ten men and a goal up, there’s no excuses not to see the game out. Most of the blame has to be out on Doidge, but Heckingbottom should have gone with two up front when they went down a man. Go for the killer second goal. He’s too defensive IMO.
 
Watched in on Hibs TV. We started well and drifted in and out of the game. Against ten men and a goal up, there’s no excuses not to see the game out. Most of the blame has to be out on Doidge, but Heckingbottom should have gone with two up front when they went down a man. Go for the killer second goal. He’s too defensive IMO.

Yup but Hallberg for Newell was a big boob too.
 
Yup but Hallberg for Newell was a big boob too.

Yeah definitely. I’d have gone with Shaw and having him and Kamberi up front, but could also go with bringing Whittaker on. He’s been a stand out the last couple of games. Fucking Newell though, he’s an empty jersey.
 
Silence is golden, I will pressume that is a no?

I'm not on the internet all the time pal am I ?

We did play well I'm not disagreeing

But it's a fact we still didn't win the game. That's not good enough considering the circumstances and is worrying imo because if we can't win a game like that then I don't see where the next win is coming from under this manager
 
I'm not on the internet all the time pal am I ?

We did play well I'm not disagreeing

But it's a fact we still didn't win the game. That's not good enough considering the circumstances and is worrying imo because if we can't win a game like that then I don't see where the next win is coming from under this manager

So you can see Hibs are starting to play well but can't see them beating Hamilton next time out? Really?
 
So you can see Hibs are starting to play well but can't see them beating Hamilton next time out? Really?

Who's to say we'll play well next time out ?
 
Who's to say we'll play well next time out ?

Who's to say we won't?
 
Who's to say we won't?

Because we have been consistently garbage this season and have a terrible manager

No way Hibs are beating Hamilton. Draw for me.
 
Because we have been consistently garbage this season and have a terrible manager

No way Hibs are beating Hamilton. Draw for me.

We played well v Celtc and well yesterday, no really consistently garbage is it?
 
We played well v Celtc and well yesterday, no really consistently garbage is it?

Celtic haven't beat us at ER since 2014, we rode our luck against them and scored a fluky goal that was a cross, nice inter play and creating chances doesn't win you games, there is slight improvements I will give you that but the bigger picture is we have a management team that won't get us the results we need. They won't change their comfort zone tactics with only one up front unless we are getting beat or when it is too late, two points from the bottom of the league, not finishing teams off after they go down to 10 men with a good 35 minutes left in the game, I would have expected us to create chances as there would be gaps, but the main point is we didn't finish those chances, even when they made their subs they still had 10 men and we couldn't beat them.
 
Celtic haven't beat us at ER since 2014, we rode our luck against them and scored a fluky goal that was a cross, nice inter play and creating chances doesn't win you games, there is slight improvements I will give you that but the bigger picture is we have a management team that won't get us the results we need. They won't change their comfort zone tactics with only one up front unless we are getting beat or when it is too late, two points from the bottom of the league, not finishing teams off after they go down to 10 men with a good 35 minutes left in the game, I would have expected us to create chances as there would be gaps, but the main point is we didn't finish those chances, even when they made their subs they still had 10 men and we couldn't beat them.

So you agree we are not consistently garbage?
 
When Hibs went down to 10 men he puts on another striker,but when Aberdeen goes down to 10 ,he does'nt, WTF?
 
So you agree we are not consistently garbage?

There has been more garbage performances rather than good which was evident from your just backs.
 
Why leave our only striker that was scoring regularly on the bench.

Here's where I see our striker scenario.

Doidge works hard, wins headers, holds build up well but can't score for shit.

Kamberi makes decent runs, can score but can't hold up ball, never wins headers and isn't strong enough.
 
Here's where I see our striker scenario.

Doidge works hard, wins headers, holds build up well but can't score for shit.

Kamberi makes decent runs, can score but can't hold up ball, never wins headers and isn't strong enough.

So what does that tell you?
 
There has been more garbage performances rather than good which was evident from your just backs.

I agree we were rotten, would you agree we are improving?
 
I agree we were rotten, would you agree we are improving?

I see slight improvements but even with these improvements we aren't winning games and the longer it goes on the more trouble we will be in.
 
So what does that tell you?

We need folk from midfield to chip in with goals.
 
We need folk from midfield to chip in with goals.

Agree with that, although we need two strikers up top also, PH took Mallan to Barnsley yet he couldn't get in their first 11 yet he is one of the first names on our team sheet, Alan needs better quality around him, jury still out on Vela too even after yesterday's performance, he was too weak which was evident in the other games, it's a complete mess top to bottom.
 
Agree with that, although we need two strikers up top also, PH took Mallan to Barnsley yet he couldn't get in their first 11 yet he is one of the first names on our team sheet, Alan needs better quality around him, jury still out on Vela too even after yesterday's performance, he was too weak which was evident in the other games, it's a complete mess top to bottom.

Steady dude you're being over dramatic.

Our central midfielders are gelling now and can see it's beginning to get good. It's our wing area that's letting us down at the moment and it needs looked at.

I would like to see Kamberi given a chance on the left again cos Horgan or Middleton have been gash.
 
Steady dude you're being over dramatic.

Our central midfielders are gelling now and can see it's beginning to get good. It's our wing area that's letting us down at the moment and it needs looked at.

I would like to see Kamberi given a chance on the left again cos Horgan or Middleton have been gash.

What does Mallan offer us bar his shooting or free kicks?
 
What does Mallan offer us bar his shooting or free kicks?

And corner kick taker.

In fairness I was wanting him dropped tae but as I said the central midfield is coming good. Say we do drop him and play 2 up front and our wingers perform the way they are the strikers won't get chances. Presuming it goes to a 442 that is.
 
And corner kick taker.

In fairness I was wanting him dropped tae but as I said the central midfield is coming good. Say we do drop him and play 2 up front and our wingers perform the way they are the strikers won't get chances. Presuming it goes to a 442 that is.

Your correct about the wingers, they aren't doing enough for me. When Boyler does come back I just hope it's the old Boyler we get and not the one I witnessed recently. Sorry I don't agree in relation to our midfield as I mentioned previously.
 
Your correct about the wingers, they aren't doing enough for me. When Boyler does come back I just hope it's the old Boyler we get and not the one I witnessed recently. Sorry I don't agree in relation to our midfield as I mentioned previously.

Aye we need the decent Boyle back. Fingers crossed on that one.
 
I wouldn't say all 4 of Doidge's chances were sitters (in the Jason Cummings at Starks Park sense), but for me has to score at least 2 of them. Fair enough one of them Lewis is out quick and another he's off balance but the other 2 are clean-cut. The final one was absolutely criminal as he simply has to score after electing to ignore Scott Allan :verymad:
 
Steady dude you're being over dramatic.

Our central midfielders are gelling now and can see it's beginning to get good. It's our wing area that's letting us down at the moment and it needs looked at.

I would like to see Kamberi given a chance on the left again cos Horgan or Middleton have been gash.
I certainly think the manager has to find a role for Kamberi in this set-up which brings out his best qualities as a player. Either on the left with the license to get forward and into the penalty box, or dare I say it in the Scott Allan role just behind Doidge. Flo is so much better when he is facing the goals running with the ball than he is with his back to goal and having to protect the ball. I know he is a moody bugger and can't be an easy player to manage, but he is also far too good a player to have sitting on the bench every week especially when we are struggling so badly for goals.
 
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I certainly think the manager has to find a role for Kamberi in this set-up which brings out his best qualities as a player. Either on the left with the license to get forward and into the penalty box, or dare I say it in the Scott Allan role just behind Doidge. Flo is so much better when he is facing the goals running with the ball than he is with his back to goal and having to protect the ball. I know he is a moody bugger and can't be an easy player to manage, but he is also far too good a player to have sitting on the bench every week especially when we are struggling so badly for goals.
Flo is one of our QUALITY players , having him on the bench is quite frankly incompetence ?
 

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