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Doesn't necessarily mean who you think was the best. Many might think GJP was the best but might not be their favourite for example. What manager did you just like him being Hibs manager? You felt he was just the right fit. You felt he got Hibs. He looked right being at Hibs. You wanted him to succeed as a result.
In my lifetime going to watch Hibs I've concluded the following on each respective Hibs manager:
Pat Stanton. Unfortunately he resigned a few weeks into me regularly going to ER. I had met him when pestering him for an autograph as he watched his laddie playing for St John's primary school. Then in the summer he resigned I was helping out inside Easter Road volunteering my services doing weeding etc. Pat was great with me. He sent one of the young players to the shops to get me a can of coke!
John Blackley. After each home game I'd go to the old ER main entrance and the old club shop. I was probably a wee bit of a known young face hanging about for autographs etc. After a rare Hibs win under John he enthusiastically kind of picked me up! It was so obvious he really really wanted to be a success at Hibs a club he obviously loves.
Alex Miller. I don't think in his ten years he was ever really accepted but there was grudging respect for the man. In retrospect he did more than OK. And he put together 1993-1995 one of the most exciting sides I've seen. However, it was a weird distant relationship...
Jocky Scott. His temporary manager reign went on ridiculously long. I've long felt it was this period that cost us the next few years with relegation etc. The board allowed him to sign quite a few players including John Hughes for decent money.
Jim Duffy. The board had been trying to bring in Alex Mcleish from Motherwell but their board wouldn't release him. In arrived Jim Duffy some 5 months after Miller walked. We survived the play-offs but the job was too big. In fairness he tried to build rapport with the support. And he wanted us to play in the right way. However, quickly he had from the support little if any respect as the man for the job.
Alex Mcleish. Hibs board finally got their man but not before failing to get Tommy Burns (RIP) (and Paul Sturrock?) but it was too late. We were doomed for relegation. In the First Division he got us motoring. On our futile attempt to avoid the drop beating Hearts and arguably costing them a serious tilt at the title had banked Eck much love and respect. It grew and grew. Säuzee and Latapy etc received. We were good. Promoted we returned a different beast. Eck offered us to be here as long as we wanted him. Unfortunately it wasn't long until he was meeting David Murray behind Hibs back. GJP was born.
Franck Säuzee. Shafted by ex team mates and a weak board. Still angers me. And obviously hurt him to the point of no return literally... I will always love and respect. Our loved and sadly missed The Proclaimer used to mention Franck's first outing as Hibs manager in his Don Corelone coat at East End Park. I will remember that image and not him leaving Easter Road for the last time.
Bobby Williamson. Credited by some for helping us avoid relegation. Not by me. He genuinely made me fall out of love with our club. We were awful. Derek Riordan and Steven Whittaker for Bobby Mann anyone?
Tony Mowbray. Great times. What a transformation. He knew how to use these kids and not punt them in exchange for Bobby Mann. Brought in quality like Murphy & Beuzelin. Was given much love and respect. Then he agitated for a move. Left and returned with Celtic behaving like a clown.
John Collins. A winner. Had the board appointed say Mark Proctor when Mowbray left then I doubt that amazing team would have won anything. I don't doubt JC had man management issues. I suspect Tommy Craig was an incorrect appointment to be number 2. However, Rodders was wrong, wrong, wrong to host the daft laddies with flowchart and pen down east lothian. Let down by our board.
Mixu Paatelainen. A player I loved. However, I really thought he was a terrible Hibs manager. The football was eye bleeding. I thought his PR with the support was strange. He became a hugely defensive personality.
John Hughes. Very good first season. And had us playing the right way. I thought that there was an identity that season that had been missing under Mixu. Latter part of that season though we were pretty awful. And so it continued early the next season and the board sell Anthony Stokes on the last day of the season...
Colin Calderwood. Without doubt the worst Hibs manager ever in my lifetime. I didn't like him. I don't like him. I have the same amount of respect for him as he has for us. None. Whatsoever. Couldn't even be arsed going to a testimonial match for Ian Murray. Maybe he too hadn't forgiven him for leaving Hibs something it was obvious he wanted for himself. Odious prick.
Pat Fenlon. He got Hibs. He respected and obviously still does respect Hibs. Unfortunately though Hibs appointed the wrong man. Michael O'Neil was available and wanted it. Pat honourably walked. I like Pat.
Terry Butcher. He was doing an excellent job at Inverness. I thought as did others he was the obvious candidate. How wrong was I.... What a fuckin idiot. Him and aye me as well. What manager needing points on the board comes in and tells them that they are all useless ****s and he's emptying them all?
Alan Stubbs. It was all reminiscent to Mowbray. Ex Celtic centre half. Young and hungry who wanted us to play the correct way. Communicated with us well. His language excited us. We bought into it. And although he didn't deliver on his objective to get us up he delivered what we probably never expected... I really wish he had stayed on to finish the job. He must regret and rue the day he gave good reason for her indoors to demand he went home.
Neil Lennon. At Celtc as player and manager I didn't at all like him. Had zero respect for him. However, he came in saying all the right thing's. He's a celtc man. We all know that. But his affinity and warmth for us is obvious. And it's growing. He gets us. He respects what we have given him. He's the most natural winner I've experienced as Hibs manager. Winning is everything. The last few minutes v the Gunts at ER as we put them out (again) from the Scottish Cup. His celebrating when we equalised at Hampden v The Sheep. His interview in the latest club DVD is brilliant. I felt love for the man. You understand why opponents don't like Lennon. He's EVERYTHING for his side. Neil Lennon will again manage at a higher platform but I'd imagine it'll need to be a genuine step up as I doubt he's ever been much happier. And being truthful my club has never been in a happier position.
So who is my favourite? It's hard to pick between Alan Stubbs and Neil Lennon.
However, having come FULL CIRCLE with Neil Lennon I'm declaring honestly that he's now my favourite ever Hibs manager.
And furthermore there's no reason why he can't go on and prove to be the best....
GGTTH
Yours?
In my lifetime going to watch Hibs I've concluded the following on each respective Hibs manager:
Pat Stanton. Unfortunately he resigned a few weeks into me regularly going to ER. I had met him when pestering him for an autograph as he watched his laddie playing for St John's primary school. Then in the summer he resigned I was helping out inside Easter Road volunteering my services doing weeding etc. Pat was great with me. He sent one of the young players to the shops to get me a can of coke!
John Blackley. After each home game I'd go to the old ER main entrance and the old club shop. I was probably a wee bit of a known young face hanging about for autographs etc. After a rare Hibs win under John he enthusiastically kind of picked me up! It was so obvious he really really wanted to be a success at Hibs a club he obviously loves.
Alex Miller. I don't think in his ten years he was ever really accepted but there was grudging respect for the man. In retrospect he did more than OK. And he put together 1993-1995 one of the most exciting sides I've seen. However, it was a weird distant relationship...
Jocky Scott. His temporary manager reign went on ridiculously long. I've long felt it was this period that cost us the next few years with relegation etc. The board allowed him to sign quite a few players including John Hughes for decent money.
Jim Duffy. The board had been trying to bring in Alex Mcleish from Motherwell but their board wouldn't release him. In arrived Jim Duffy some 5 months after Miller walked. We survived the play-offs but the job was too big. In fairness he tried to build rapport with the support. And he wanted us to play in the right way. However, quickly he had from the support little if any respect as the man for the job.
Alex Mcleish. Hibs board finally got their man but not before failing to get Tommy Burns (RIP) (and Paul Sturrock?) but it was too late. We were doomed for relegation. In the First Division he got us motoring. On our futile attempt to avoid the drop beating Hearts and arguably costing them a serious tilt at the title had banked Eck much love and respect. It grew and grew. Säuzee and Latapy etc received. We were good. Promoted we returned a different beast. Eck offered us to be here as long as we wanted him. Unfortunately it wasn't long until he was meeting David Murray behind Hibs back. GJP was born.
Franck Säuzee. Shafted by ex team mates and a weak board. Still angers me. And obviously hurt him to the point of no return literally... I will always love and respect. Our loved and sadly missed The Proclaimer used to mention Franck's first outing as Hibs manager in his Don Corelone coat at East End Park. I will remember that image and not him leaving Easter Road for the last time.
Bobby Williamson. Credited by some for helping us avoid relegation. Not by me. He genuinely made me fall out of love with our club. We were awful. Derek Riordan and Steven Whittaker for Bobby Mann anyone?
Tony Mowbray. Great times. What a transformation. He knew how to use these kids and not punt them in exchange for Bobby Mann. Brought in quality like Murphy & Beuzelin. Was given much love and respect. Then he agitated for a move. Left and returned with Celtic behaving like a clown.
John Collins. A winner. Had the board appointed say Mark Proctor when Mowbray left then I doubt that amazing team would have won anything. I don't doubt JC had man management issues. I suspect Tommy Craig was an incorrect appointment to be number 2. However, Rodders was wrong, wrong, wrong to host the daft laddies with flowchart and pen down east lothian. Let down by our board.
Mixu Paatelainen. A player I loved. However, I really thought he was a terrible Hibs manager. The football was eye bleeding. I thought his PR with the support was strange. He became a hugely defensive personality.
John Hughes. Very good first season. And had us playing the right way. I thought that there was an identity that season that had been missing under Mixu. Latter part of that season though we were pretty awful. And so it continued early the next season and the board sell Anthony Stokes on the last day of the season...
Colin Calderwood. Without doubt the worst Hibs manager ever in my lifetime. I didn't like him. I don't like him. I have the same amount of respect for him as he has for us. None. Whatsoever. Couldn't even be arsed going to a testimonial match for Ian Murray. Maybe he too hadn't forgiven him for leaving Hibs something it was obvious he wanted for himself. Odious prick.
Pat Fenlon. He got Hibs. He respected and obviously still does respect Hibs. Unfortunately though Hibs appointed the wrong man. Michael O'Neil was available and wanted it. Pat honourably walked. I like Pat.
Terry Butcher. He was doing an excellent job at Inverness. I thought as did others he was the obvious candidate. How wrong was I.... What a fuckin idiot. Him and aye me as well. What manager needing points on the board comes in and tells them that they are all useless ****s and he's emptying them all?
Alan Stubbs. It was all reminiscent to Mowbray. Ex Celtic centre half. Young and hungry who wanted us to play the correct way. Communicated with us well. His language excited us. We bought into it. And although he didn't deliver on his objective to get us up he delivered what we probably never expected... I really wish he had stayed on to finish the job. He must regret and rue the day he gave good reason for her indoors to demand he went home.
Neil Lennon. At Celtc as player and manager I didn't at all like him. Had zero respect for him. However, he came in saying all the right thing's. He's a celtc man. We all know that. But his affinity and warmth for us is obvious. And it's growing. He gets us. He respects what we have given him. He's the most natural winner I've experienced as Hibs manager. Winning is everything. The last few minutes v the Gunts at ER as we put them out (again) from the Scottish Cup. His celebrating when we equalised at Hampden v The Sheep. His interview in the latest club DVD is brilliant. I felt love for the man. You understand why opponents don't like Lennon. He's EVERYTHING for his side. Neil Lennon will again manage at a higher platform but I'd imagine it'll need to be a genuine step up as I doubt he's ever been much happier. And being truthful my club has never been in a happier position.
So who is my favourite? It's hard to pick between Alan Stubbs and Neil Lennon.
However, having come FULL CIRCLE with Neil Lennon I'm declaring honestly that he's now my favourite ever Hibs manager.
And furthermore there's no reason why he can't go on and prove to be the best....
GGTTH
Yours?