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    Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

    Seems harsh IMO.

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    Re: Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

    That is extremely harsh. I think a replay or a fine would have been a sufficient punishment.

    That means Celtic get a cushy tie if they beat Morton.

    Mon the Stenny!

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    Re: Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

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    Seems harsh IMO.
    If this had been a juvenile team who done this they would have got booted out.So no sympathy here they got what they deserved.

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    Re: Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

    dont think the sfa had a choice after booting brechin out 2 years ago, seems a harsh decision for anyone, but rules are rules, just out of interest anyone know what would happen had they done that in a league fiture?

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    Re: Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

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    Seems harsh IMO.
    Were you sitting waiting for the BBC screen to change K

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    Now I am not normally one for conspiracy theories. Ok I might be. But, it strikes me that a game against Stenny would be easier than a game against Dumfy for celtc assuming they dispose of Morton.

    Also, where is the continuity in these cases, are the decisions Ad Hoc? I'm asking purely because of the comment at the bottom of the linked article;

    When Brechin were ejected two years ago, the SFA initially ordered a replay and fined the club 10,000 when it was thought only one ineligible player had been fielded.

    But the club were expelled once it emerged a second player had been used who should have been serving a ban.
    So, as Dunfy had fielded one ineligible player why have they not been treated the same?
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    Re: Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

    They were 4-0? up when the boy came on. A replay would have been the fairest option. Only ones happy about this will be the tims and stenny.

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    Re: Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

    I just spoke with a Director of Stenny who is surprised to say the least.


    Surprised and happy!

    The best they expected was a replay.

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    Dunfermline

    Dunfermline have been kicked out of the Active Nation Scottish Cup for fielding an ineligible player in their fourth-round win over Stenhousemuir.

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    Sorry wrong thread.

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    Re: Dunfermline

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    Dunfermline have been kicked out of the Active Nation Scottish Cup for fielding an ineligible player in their fourth-round win over Stenhousemuir.
    What is the difference between Dunfermline's situation and that of Brechin (or whoever it was) getting fined and told to replay the game?

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    Re: Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

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    Seems harsh IMO.

    Not really as its a simple administration procedure to check whether a player is elligible or not, especially a senior professional club. It only takes an e-mail to Hampden with a list of players who the manager will be using in his squad and the would have told him straight away that Woods was suspended. I think there is even a page on the SFA site that tells you every player that is suspended in each round. So there really is not an excuse for a pro Club. Their club secretary should lose his job because of this, as it would have been his responsibility to check on every players eliligibility. Incompetence of the highest order, and one that has cost his club Xoo,ooo because of their home tie with the SDB's.

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    Re: Dunfermline

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    What is the difference between Dunfermline's situation and that of Brechin (or whoever it was) getting fined and told to replay the game?

    My thoughts exactly.

    Then I remembered who they would probably be playing in the next round

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    Re: Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

    The SFA statement:

    Scottish Cup Expulsion
    Thursday, 14 January 2010

    The Scottish FA can today confirm that after a meeting of the Emergency Committee at Hampden Park, Dunfermline Athletic Football Club have been expelled from the Active Nation Scottish Cup in respect of a number of breaches of the Cup Competition rules.

    The breaches of the Cup Competition rules are as follows:

    Playing a suspended player, Calum Woods
    Submitting an inaccurate team line
    Altering a named substitute
    Not registering two outfield under-21 players

    In addition to the above breaches, Dunfermline Athletic also admitted liability in failing to acknowledge the suspension of the aforementioned player, despite receiving 26 issues of the suspension list, in addition to the normal method of notification.

    Subject to any appeal, Stenhousemuir FC will now take the place of Dunfermline Athletic for the fifth round of the competition, where they will play either Greenock Morton or Celtic on the weekend of February 6.

    Gordon Smith, Chief Executive of the Scottish FA, commented: While it is unfortunate that Dunfermline Athletic will no longer be participating in the Active Nation Scottish Cup, the Emergency Committee were left with no alternative after it emerged the club had breached several of the Cup Competition rules.

    The integrity of the Active Nation Scottish Cup was paramount in the decision making process.

    Owing to the appeals process, there will be no further comment at this stage from the Scottish FA.

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    Re: Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

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    My thoughts exactly.

    Then I remembered who they would probably be playing in the next round
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    The SFA statement:

    Scottish Cup Expulsion
    Thursday, 14 January 2010

    The Scottish FA can today confirm that after a meeting of the Emergency Committee at Hampden Park, Dunfermline Athletic Football Club have been expelled from the Active Nation Scottish Cup in respect of a number of breaches of the Cup Competition rules.

    The breaches of the Cup Competition rules are as follows:

    • Playing a suspended player, Calum Woods
    • Submitting an inaccurate team line
    • Altering a named substitute
    • Not registering two outfield under-21 players

    In addition to the above breaches, Dunfermline Athletic also admitted liability in failing to acknowledge the suspension of the aforementioned player, despite receiving 26 issues of the suspension list, in addition to the normal method of notification.


    Subject to any appeal, Stenhousemuir FC will now take the place of Dunfermline Athletic for the fifth round of the competition, where they will play either Greenock Morton or Celtic on the weekend of February 6.

    Gordon Smith, Chief Executive of the Scottish FA, commented: “While it is unfortunate that Dunfermline Athletic will no longer be participating in the Active Nation Scottish Cup, the Emergency Committee were left with no alternative after it emerged the club had breached several of the Cup Competition rules.

    “The integrity of the Active Nation Scottish Cup was paramount in the decision making process.”

    Owing to the appeals process, there will be no further comment at this stage from the Scottish FA.

    I think you'll find that them playing the SDB's in the next round had nowt tae dae wae it.

    Their Club Secretary should be hung drawn and quartered for that $#@! up!

    This should definitely act as a deterent to any other club to make sure their hoose is in order

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    Re: Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

    the under 21 rule IMO is $#@!!

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    Re: Dunfermline

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    My thoughts exactly.

    Then I remembered who they would probably be playing in the next round

    I posted this on the other thread before seeing all of the feck ups they'd made, and thought they'd 'just' fielded one ineligible player.

    I completely take back my conspiracy theory - that's incompetence of the highest order on the part of Dunfermline!

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    Re: Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

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    the under 21 rule IMO is $#@!!
    It might be a $#@! rule but it is still a rule that every club has to follow. The SFA is built on rules and if ye dinnae follow them ye $#@! up.

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    Re: Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

    A pars fan at my work told me that when the ineligible player was fielded there supporters flooded there clubs directory phone lines to inform them that it was an ineligible player that was put on the park.

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    Re: Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

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    Not really as its a simple administration procedure to check whether a player is elligible or not, especially a senior professional club. It only takes an e-mail to Hampden with a list of players who the manager will be using in his squad and the would have told him straight away that Woods was suspended. I think there is even a page on the SFA site that tells you every player that is suspended in each round. So there really is not an excuse for a pro Club. Their club secretary should lose his job because of this, as it would have been his responsibility to check on every players eliligibility. Incompetence of the highest order, and one that has cost his club Xoo,ooo because of their home tie with the SDB's.
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    I think you'll find that them playing the SDB's in the next round had nowt tae dae wae it.

    Their Club Secretary should be hung drawn and quartered for that $#@! up!

    This should definitely act as a deterent to any other club to make sure their hoose is in order
    Gunner is 100% correct. A professional club pays an administrator a salary to organise this side of their affairs. Bollocks to them, it's nobody's fault but their own.
    Good luck to Morton and Stenhousemuir.

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    Re: Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

    do you think the sfa would have thrown out say.............. clyde, partick thistle. i doubt it very much.

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    do you think the sfa would have thrown out say.............. clyde, partick thistle. i doubt it very much.
    Given the list of misdemeanours kindly listed by Dunc89 then aye, they probably would have. I thought it was harsh until my mate pointed these out to me in the boozer.
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    Re: Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

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    do you think the sfa would have thrown out say.............. clyde, partick thistle. i doubt it very much.

    if they'd $#@!ed up as bad as Dunfermline had done, then yes.

    They have now set a precedence so any club who $#@!s up can expect to be booted, although I think now every club will make sure their secretary is well clued-up on the rules.

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    Re: Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

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    if they'd $#@!ed up as bad as Dunfermline had done, then yes.

    They have now set a precedence so any club who $#@!s up can expect to be booted, although I think now every club will make sure their secretary is well clued-up on the rules.
    I wonder what the club secretary at Dunfys job pays. I might apply for that
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    Re: Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

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    Seems harsh IMO.
    Not even read the thread, started my weekend early, f**k them they put us out the cup last time when we should of breezed it. Remember Chernobyl they've all got webbed feet and six fingers...

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    Not even read the thread, started my weekend early, f**k them they put us out the cup last time when we should of breezed it. Remember Chernobyl they've all got webbed feet and six fingers...
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    Re: Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

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    Re: Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

    Not only was the banned player intimated to Dunfermline (they lied about it not being on an email) they were even emailed and telephoned prior to the game by concerned fans who spotted his name on the team sheet.
    So the fans were on the ball but the club were criminally inept.

    Don't forget that Pars Chairman Dorky Yorkie is the pompous rude and downright arrogant $#@! who shopped Livingston FC for playing a "shamateur" player. He threatened to take them to the Highest Court in the Universe and pontificated about "rules are rules, and if you break them you should burn in hellfire for eternity" or something.

    Stenny are looking forward to the game against Morton.


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    Re: Dunfermline thrown out of the Scottish cup.

    How can a club as old as Dunfermline not know the rules of it's own national competition?
    No sympathy.
    The potential loss of hundreds of thousands of pounds should act as a deterrent enough to any club in Scotland.
    They've fcuked up and are paying the ultimate price.

    I just hope we get Stenny in the final.

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