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    Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

    When an Englishman can start in front of a half decent home grown fullback even if Lee Wallace is a Gunt. I despise Gunts however the boy fae Carrick Knowe is a far better player that the soapdodging Engerlunder.

    Ye couldny make it up Burley ya fanny :102::102:

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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

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    When an Englishman can start in front of a half decent home grown fullback even if Lee Wallace is a Gunt. I despise Gunts however the boy fae Carrick Knowe is a far better player that the soapdodging Engerlunder.

    Ye couldny make it up Burley ya fanny :102::102:

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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

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    It's no just Burley. It's the SFA in general.
    Can't disagree SFA a total shambles lets see how Cellics defence does against Wales the day.

    SFA short for ( Selecting Feckin Arseholes )

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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

    A Celtic's Derek Riordan - Play the whole second half

    A Hibernian's Derek Riordan - There ye go lad, go on and run aboot for the last 7 minutes.
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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

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    When an Englishman can start in front of a half decent home grown fullback even if Lee Wallace is a Gunt. I despise Gunts however the boy fae Carrick Knowe is a far better player that the soapdodging Engerlunder.

    Ye couldny make it up Burley ya fanny :102::102:

    Agreed 100%.

    Its a $#@!n sham.

    As was keeping burley.

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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

    It is pretty messed up. You'd expect players to be selected based on current form.

    Yes as a generalisation you can expect the "best" players to play for the biggest clubs but running an international squad based on generalisation and politics is asking for nothing but trouble.


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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

    I don't recall anyone complaining too much when an "Englishman" called Don Hutchison (who played his entire career in that country) chipped in with the winner at Wembley ten years ago this week.

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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

    I'd like to just say that I don't have an issue with an englishman playing for Scotland, or someone from any nation, if they are eligble via the rules, as long as the player is up to scratch, and that's the point Wallace of late has been streaks ahead of Fox.

    One fair point made on the radio was that this could be a pre-arranged agreement between Burley and Celtic to give the boy a run out now in a friendly, maybe only for a half or so, just to see how he copes, while Wallace has already proven himself pretty capable at international level.


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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

    We've got enough $#@!e Scotland players without selecting gash English ones in all.

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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

    burley is an erse
    Liam Fox gies a break ffs
    Kenny Miller Has burley no watched him the last 10 games. The guy is pish. Cant score,cant hold the ball up, cant keep possesion
    naismith what has he done the last 2years to deserve to deserve a start
    Nae Riordan/wallace/mullgrew/murray/barr/fletcher

    C'mon the taffys

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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

    Scotland are absolutely garbage, amateurish at best. No passion,no fight, no interested just embarrassing.

    I'm the dafty that took them on my coupon.

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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

    Quote Originally Posted by tayside hibee View Post
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    burley is an erse
    Liam Fox gies a break ffs
    Kenny Miller Has burley no watched him the last 10 games. The guy is pish. Cant score,cant hold the ball up, cant keep possesion
    naismith what has he done the last 2years to deserve to deserve a start
    Nae Riordan/wallace/mullgrew/murray/barr/fletcher

    C'mon the taffys


    Agree with all of that, and Don Cowie, who the fck is he? Where is Deek. Naismith (pish hun midget!) and Cowie couldn't lace his boots. And yes, Wallace should start. Fck off Burley!!!! Mon the Taffs!!!

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    This really is embarrassing. Scotland's "Celtic" defence is $#@!e, Caldwell & McManus should never wear a Scotland top again!!! Miller's pash! ( no change there) surely Burley can see this? Naismith, heidless chicken.!! Can Burley change it ? Don't think he has the intellect feckin Jakey canute!!!
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    think thats one of the worst 45 mins of football ive watched in a long time.

    burleys choice of players is a joke he seems to have his handful of must haves, who are generally $#@!e! kenny miller has done nothing for rangers all season but still gets a start, naismith scored 1 goal all season, don cowie plays league 1 football. im sure there are better midfielders we can chose.

    we are on a slippery berti vogts style slope and i can see us getting alot worse. after all the good work of mcleish and smith burley has ruined all of it and made us an embarrassment again!!

    Burley GTF!!!!!!!

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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

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    think thats one of the worst 45 mins of football ive watched in a long time.

    burleys choice of players is a joke he seems to have his handful of must haves, who are generally $#@!e! kenny miller has done nothing for rangers all season but still gets a start, naismith scored 1 goal all season, don cowie plays league 1 football. im sure there are better midfielders we can chose.

    we are on a slippery berti vogts style slope and i can see us getting alot worse. after all the good work of mcleish and smith burley has ruined all of it and made us an embarrassment again!!

    Burley GTF!!!!!!!
    Spot on Paddy! I'd rather see a team full of SCOTTISH youths or even schoolboys playing for an amateur manager than this lot of over-hyped prima donnas playing for someone who simply does not have a scooby.

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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

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    One fair point made on the radio was that this could be a pre-arranged agreement between Burley and Celtic to give the boy a run out now in a friendly, maybe only for a half or so, just to see how he copes, while Wallace has already proven himself pretty capable at international level.
    Possibly, but Wallace is hardly established and if that's the argument then why the hell is Kenny Miller playing?

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    think thats one of the worst 45 mins of football ive watched in a long time.
    burleys choice of players is a joke he seems to have his handful of must haves, who are generally $#@!e! kenny miller has done nothing for rangers all season but still gets a start, naismith scored 1 goal all season, don cowie plays league 1 football. im sure there are better midfielders we can chose.

    we are on a slippery berti vogts style slope and i can see us getting alot worse. after all the good work of mcleish and smith burley has ruined all of it and made us an embarrassment again!!

    Burley GTF!!!!!!!
    Maybe since the last time Scotland played in Cardiff?

    The resemblance is uncanny.

    Agreed. This performance is the last straw for me. Now is the time for change to allow a new manager to bed in and get a few games before the next campaign.

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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

    Christ I'm glad I decided to listen to the rugby instead, it was a pretty good game and Scotland played well, wasn't expecting to switch back over to the football and find us 3 - 0 down and our team utterly nonexistant.


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    It seems if you play for celtic or rangers to start for scotland how burley kept the job is beyond me ps if scotland where playing in ma backgreen i would draw the curtains f***in pish

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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

    bring back berti

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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

    On the up side it's only the "full" team that's utterly pish.

    The under 21s are 4 nil up away in Azerbaijan.
    Anyone else want to see how the under 21s would do against other nations full squads?


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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

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    It seems if you play for celtic or rangers to start for scotland how burley kept the job is beyond me ps if scotland where playing in ma backgreen i would draw the curtains f***in pish
    I would tell them to keep off my grass.

    Alan Hutton EPL player? He either belongs in a circus or a butcher's shop.
    I pity the 4,000 Scots who paid decent money to witness that garbage. Burley should reimburse them out of his own pocket and keep back enough for his bus fare.
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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

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    I'd like to just say that I don't have an issue with an englishman playing for Scotland, or someone from any nation, if they are eligble via the rules, as long as the player is up to scratch, and that's the point Wallace of late has been streaks ahead of Fox.

    One fair point made on the radio was that this could be a pre-arranged agreement between Burley and Celtic to give the boy a run out now in a friendly, maybe only for a half or so, just to see how he copes, while Wallace has already proven himself pretty capable at international level.
    If that is the case it's fukking shocking. Burley is meant to pick the team to the best of HIS [rather limited] ability not to appease Celtc.
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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

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    I don't recall anyone complaining too much when an "Englishman" called Don Hutchison (who played his entire career in that country) chipped in with the winner at Wembley ten years ago this week.
    Don who ? another feckin dud. My initial thoughts remain the same playing an Englishmman in front of a home grown Scot in a Scotland team is sacrilege.

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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

    we were total garbage today afew early chances for us that should hae been put away but we crumbled form then on in our defence was a disgrace the midfield couldnt sting a pass the gither and nothing happened up front.danny fox is $#@!ing $#@!e ive said it since the start of the season , and why the feck did kyle get on he might have done ok when he came on but he total garbage HUDDY

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    If that is the case it's fukking shocking. Burley is meant to pick the team to the best of HIS [rather limited] ability not to appease Celtc.
    I agree, just seems to be the sort of thing that goes on between teams and international managers, givin the guy a tester game in a friendly during an international break or whatever.

    Being a rugby fan I'm very much of the opinion that there is no such thing as a friendly...in rugby very rarely would a match ever be called a friendly, they are usually called tests for a reason. Unless there are clubs being utter arseholes and refusing to let people play for their country, which I don't think happens often though a few clubs did it to Fiji for today, the teams are pretty much always the strongest possible.


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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

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    I don't recall anyone complaining too much when an "Englishman" called Don Hutchison (who played his entire career in that country) chipped in with the winner at Wembley ten years ago this week.
    The fact we had no-one else to play there at the time makes it totally different imo

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    I'd like to just say that I don't have an issue with an englishman playing for Scotland, or someone from any nation, if they are eligble via the rules, as long as the player is up to scratch, and that's the point Wallace of late has been streaks ahead of Fox.

    One fair point made on the radio was that this could be a pre-arranged agreement between Burley and Celtic to give the boy a run out now in a friendly, maybe only for a half or so, just to see how he copes, while Wallace has already proven himself pretty capable at international level.
    If that was the case why Kenny Miller before Fletcher(who is playing superb in the spl) and Deeks?
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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

    Scotland team today should of been

    Marshall
    Hutton Barr ?? Wallace
    ?? D.Fletcher Dorrans
    McFadden
    Kyle S Fletcher

    reasons behind this

    Hutton (best fullback and hopefully can get back to his best)
    Wallace (best LB in the country by a country mile)
    Barr (deserves a chance)
    D.Fletcher (on his game an excellent player)
    Dorrans (has been excellent for W.Brom and deserves his chance)
    McFadden (On his game is there anyone better in the hole)
    Kyle (guy deserves his chance - big and stronger and scoring)
    S. Fletcher (EPL striker and scoring)

    Cannot think of anyone to play on the right and the other CH position is tricky maybe Diamond at the Sheep????

    Kenny Miller is woeful and runs runs runs but does nothing for me.
    Caldwell and McManus are not good enough and a very very young Welsh strikeforce ran them ragged.

    Burley should hang his head in shame at the shambolic state of the national team. Smith and the rest of the SFA should go as well.

    This was an opportunity to blood some other players and not the $#@!e from the OF. O and WTF was nae game Naismith getting a game for???

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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

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    If that was the case why Kenny Miller before Fletcher(who is playing superb in the spl) and Deeks?
    Oh aye I don't think it was an excuse for the entire thing just a possible situation regarding Fox, rather than why pretty much the entire team selection was a load of pish.

    As it transpired Fox got a whole game didn't he? So that was that idea well blown out the water anyways.


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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

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    The fact we had no-one else to play there at the time makes it totally different imo



    If that was the case why Kenny Miller before Fletcher(who is playing superb in the spl) and Deeks?
    I can understand your first point to an extent but if people are going to say that on principle we shouldn't take "English" players - unless they are better than what we have got - then it doesn't seem a very strong conviction. Surely it has to be a case of, yes it's okay, or no it isn't.

    I was also making the same point appoint Miller earlier in the thread. His inclusion in a friendly makes absolutely no sense. We all know what he can do and to be honest that isn't much. In the absense of a real top notch international striker, younger ones such as the ones you mention and McCormack have to be given a chance to develop as if we are looking to go with K. Miller for the next three years then we might as well call it a day now.

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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

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    It is pretty messed up. You'd expect players to be selected based on current form.
    That's never been the case. It's always been harder to get out the Scotland team than it is to get in it!

    The example I always use is Mexico 86 where we went to a World Cup while the 5 top scorers in the Premier League just finished (1985/86) weren't in the squad. Brian McClair, Mo Johnstone, Stevie Cowan, Ally McCoist and John Robertson sat in the house as Scotland managed just one goal in the whole tournament from midfield (Strachan v West Germany).

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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

    I think Stevie Wonder can see the Scottish International scene is going through a rough time and I'm suspecting those at Hampden are stalling for Uncle Walter to step down at Ibrox so the 'Messiah' can return.
    Let's all be honest here, Even Merlin couldn't rustle up any magic out of the current Scotland squad.
    When the SFA have James McFadden as the face of youth football, then we truly are fecked.
    I know for a fact the SFA have written off every tournament between now and 2020. (now there's a vision).
    As a country we have lost our way and the players of tommorrow are being handicapped before they even begin playing football.
    There are too many pieces missing from the jigsaw to right the wrongs. But it HAS to come from the top down. We need summer football (on it's way). We need the facilities (costs money).We need to give the coaches the right tools to do the job.
    We need to accept, as a country, we CAN'T play the game. We have to start again with a different idea of how the game is played around the globe. Granted there's dedicated coaches as grassroots who give up their time. But it's not enough. Not enough of our youth are being taught the technical aspects. Christ we have an international striker who doesn't know where the goal is! (He did when he was at Hibs though!)
    If we're to progress as a nation, we have to look at the jigsaw and see what parts are missing. What parts need to be binned and replaced with the parts that fit correctly.
    I genuinely believe Gordon Smith is trying to right the wrongs. But he can't do it himself.
    Firstly, he's going to have to surround himself with the right people.
    Guys like Craig Levein.
    90% of footballers in Scotland are playing at grassroots.
    That's where my prime focus would be for 2020.

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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

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    That's never been the case. It's always been harder to get out the Scotland team than it is to get in it!

    The example I always use is Mexico 86 where we went to a World Cup while the 5 top scorers in the Premier League just finished (1985/86) weren't in the squad. Brian McClair, Mo Johnstone, Stevie Cowan, Ally McCoist and John Robertson sat in the house as Scotland managed just one goal in the whole tournament from midfield (Strachan v West Germany).
    Very good point, doesn't mean you wouldn't like to hope that the team was selected based on player performance though.



    Jimmyhibs I agree with a lot, if not all, of that. They really need to tear down everything that isn't working and rebuild, using those few areas that are working (a lot of the youth teams do pretty well) as a core.


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    Re: Scottish International Fitbaw is fecked

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    I can understand your first point to an extent but if people are going to say that on principle we shouldn't take "English" players - unless they are better than what we have got - then it doesn't seem a very strong conviction. Surely it has to be a case of, yes it's okay, or no it isn't.
    I was also making the same point appoint Miller earlier in the thread. His inclusion in a friendly makes absolutely no sense. We all know what he can do and to be honest that isn't much. In the absense of a real top notch international striker, younger ones such as the ones you mention and McCormack have to be given a chance to develop as if we are looking to go with K. Miller for the next three years then we might as well call it a day now.
    Yeah i agree with what you are saying.

    But did Don Hutchison(sp?) not have a Scottish granny or something like that:102: At least some kind of Scottish connection?
    Which would make it slightly different, someone with absolute no connection to Scotland should not play for us.
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