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    Quote Originally Posted by tayside hibee View Post
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    I agree, but I just don't see how another investigation would change anything about the status quo.
    If anybody should be perusing this matter more it should surely be the taxman. The only people who I see to potentially gain from all this is the Smellies which I don't have any appetite for.
    But surely something should be seen to be done as it definitely would with lesser clubs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple & Green View Post
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    Yes. Back to the bad old days. They’ve allowed themselves to be the focus when it should be on the sfa.
    Which makes me conclude this is all about the seamless handover and inheritance at the SFA....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tayside hibee View Post
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    The Hun must be pishing itself laughing as it tears us apart. My hatred for them grows everyday, but I so much want to move on from this sorry episode. Lawyers and courts have proved time and time again on this that they can't decide how culpable the Hun was. Guilty, not guilty , guilty , not guilty , a bit guilty , a little bit , a big bit , not guilty . How many more circles do people want to go round?
    Why no outrage at the gunts? They cheated and conned their way for years also? It's all a bit " green brigade" driven for me, it saddens and bores me.
    Youre missing the point here. It's no longer about the Huns it's about the involvement of the SFA and SPFL and their integrity from beginning to whenever the end arrives. There are club officials up and down the country who appear to be up to their necks in it seeking to move on. All that's been asked for here is an independent review of the events surrounding the authorities handling of the whole affair and the SFA in particular are blocking it. It stinks to high heaven therefore Celtc have continued to push buttons. Every club in the country should be backing the call for an investigation, even The Rangers, but certain high profile club boards are hiding away against the wishes if their own fanbase.
    The grief our reps are facing is because they failed to communicate the vast majority of our supporters' feelings to the board and sided with them.
    Going after the Huns is a completely separate matter for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tayside hibee View Post
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    I agree, but I just don't see how another investigation would change anything about the status quo.
    If anybody should be perusing this matter more it should surely be the taxman. The only people who I see to potentially gain from all this is the Smellies which I don't have any appetite for.
    Sorry but that is nonsense, it's nowt tae dae with the tax man, it's tae dae with governance of Scottish fitba. Ignoring the smellies motives and ignoring the title stripping, something needs tae be done. Currently working within the SFA at the top level we have the people who worked the EBT scheme at the huns, we have the people who knew about it at the time who ignored/aided it, we have the people who tried tae cover it up and sweep it under the carpet when it was found out , we have those people who tried tae twist, break, ignore every rule that ever existed tae get the huns back tae the top. You think that doesn't warrant investigation? Any idea if the same brown envelopes passed about then are being passed about now by the same people? Trust them aye? About as far as I could throw a grand piano. The same people who have cheated, lied, covered up and what ever else are still running the show and you think that's ok and we should move on with them left in position? The game in Scotland currently has about as much credibility as American wrestling but you think we should just move on with the same people still in charge? People with nowt tae hide have nowt tae fear from any investigation. Got tae wonder (well actually you dinnae) why these people dinnae want investigated? Celtc's motives dinnae interest me but if they are the only ones willing tae lead the charge then on this occasion they have my backing.
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    I've now voted after reading @traceyhibs statement that we were all waiting on.

    I've voted resign. Tracey, your statement and subsequent posts tell us nothing. You are dodging valid questions saying you'd rather speak to folk face to face or on the phone and that anything you put up folk are saying is written by David Forsyth. What utter nonsense. All i can garner from your replies is that you and Frank voted they way that YOU saw fit and to hell with what the majority of fans felt.

    No confidence in the fans reps now. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by traceyhibs View Post
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    I acknowledge that a lot of supporters are angry with the statement but I also acknowledge the support I have had who haven't lost confidence. Not everyone puts it on forums.










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    So you've had more people that agree with your position than disagree with it? If you agree with petrie that it should be swept under the carpet then yer nae better than he is, naebody with anything tae hide has anything tae fear from any investigation, only those who have something tae hide have. If you disagree and have gone along with it tae protect yer position yer nae better. He has nae shame, have you? I think these two fans directors places on the board is a complete sham and waste of time and I wisnae going tae bother voting next time but should the farce come round again and either you or the other incumbent stand I shall be voting for other candidates in an effort tae keep out people who think it's ok tae sweep cheating under the carpet
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    Is there plans to change the hordes of Huns within the SFA who influence the organisation and have done for a very long time, are we going to get a more neutral regime to lead our game? Are we going to have people who care about sporting integrity instead of keeping our corrupt game in the dark ages? People should be exposed Tracey plain and simple and fans should know the truth about our game and the people covering there arses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple & Green View Post
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    Yes. Back to the bad old days. They’ve allowed themselves to be the focus when it should be on the sfa.
    To add to that, Franks inability to post on the bounce or other Hibs website has left Tracey to do so on her own, which appears to have personalised it even more. Well played the puppetmasters.

    Whilst I asolutely disagree with what Frank and Tracey have done, by Sauzee they have diverted the flak from the real problem, our unelected board members and the cheats and liars at the SFA.

    To think I happily voted for both of you.
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    What a sorry state.
    The way the cheating Huns have been dealt with by those supposedly in charge of our beautiful game is a disgrace.
    The way the mainstream media has dealt with ALL connected issues has been a disgrace.
    I’m now concerned that we are following that trend.
    The role of ‘fan reps’ seems to have different meanings to many. Some think they are there in an adversarial position against evil blazers, others think they have to take a poll on every decision. Or are they there as elected members with a broad remit to support us all? Well, everyone has to choose.
    The view that ‘the rest of the Board’ (probably just Rodders) has somehow conspired to hang them out to dry is perhaps the biggest load of tosh I’ve read on the subject. Our Board members are top professionals, with a real interest in Hibs. They really are.
    To suggest they gather together in some sort of ‘evil gang’ to ‘hang Tracey and Frank out to dry’ is really laughable if it wasn’t so frankly pathetic.
    Frank and Tracey are proper Hibs fans. Fact. Endof & all that $#@!.
    They aren’t Hun apologists and have suffered the cups of pish, abuse etc that all Hibs fans have at Ipox. Why would they forget that $#@!?
    If they were convinced by the evidence given confidentially at Hibs Board meeting that they chose to go along with a recommendation that suited Hibs then who can blame them?
    That doesn’t mean they (or we) condone the cheating and the chicanery of the SFA it suggests that an investigation on the terms put forward would fail.
    Rightly or wrongly they supported a view that put Hibs (arguably) in the best place.
    I despise the Huns.
    I despise the way that they have been ‘favoured’ by the likes of Campbell Ogilvie, and the SFA appointees who ARE Hun apologists.
    I don’t despise Tracey or Frank, and I don’t think they have been hung out to dry, framed, or played for Patsies.
    In the longer term I think the truth will out, and maybe some sort of justice will prevail.
    I’d still prefer a full investigation, and if I had faith in the polis then I’d like that too.
    As I’ve said before, ignoring the nonsense that gets spouted……….. why does nobody investigate Souness and Sir Cardigan getting EBTs when they were at other clubs? It’s clear to a blind man that bribes took place.
    I’d have liked Hibs to have backed a further investigation, but I’m clear where the crime was committed and it wasn’t at Easter Road.
    In the meantime, I’m going tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Shrink View Post
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    To suggest they gather together in some sort of ‘evil gang’ to ‘hang Tracey and Frank out to dry’ is really laughable if it wasn’t so frankly pathetic.
    Frank and Tracey are proper Hibs fans. Fact. Endof & all that $#@!.
    They aren’t Hun apologists and have suffered the cups of pish, abuse etc that all Hibs fans have at Ipox. Why would they forget that $#@!?
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    could be wrong but am taking a wild guess Tracey has not been to many Hibs away games at Ibrox over last 15-20 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tayside hibee View Post
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    What's really sad about this whole sorry state of affairs, is watching Hibs fans threaten to not go back, give out abuse to fellow Hibbys and generally suck the feel good factor out the club. A " feel good" which hasn't been around the club for a long time and which came at a hefty price.
    Frank and Tracey ( whom I don't know) going from probably being on such a high , given a role at the club they love, to receiving abuse and harassment .
    The Hun must be pishing itself laughing as it tears us apart. My hatred for them grows everyday, but I so much want to move on from this sorry episode. Lawyers and courts have proved time and time again on this that they can't decide how culpable the Hun was. Guilty, not guilty , guilty , not guilty , a bit guilty , a little bit , a big bit , not guilty . How many more circles do people want to go round?
    Why no outrage at the gunts? They cheated and conned their way for years also? It's all a bit " green brigade" driven for me, it saddens and bores me.
    Sorry if it bores you T but this is important. Rangers cheated over as long a period of time as the gunts but the gunts were above board as far as the level of wages they were paying. OK they stole money from creditors as some businesses do and they went in to administration with creditors accepting a pitiful offer from the budgie. the huns lied about player registrations meaning that in essence these players were ineligible to play for them in competative matches. They also withheld tax and VAT payments and the SFA were complicit in allowing them to play in Europe at the expense of another team. The two situations are like night and day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Shrink View Post
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    What a sorry state.
    The way the cheating Huns have been dealt with by those supposedly in charge of our beautiful game is a disgrace.
    The way the mainstream media has dealt with ALL connected issues has been a disgrace.
    I’m now concerned that we are following that trend.
    The role of ‘fan reps’ seems to have different meanings to many. Some think they are there in an adversarial position against evil blazers, others think they have to take a poll on every decision. Or are they there as elected members with a broad remit to support us all? Well, everyone has to choose.
    The view that ‘the rest of the Board’ (probably just Rodders) has somehow conspired to hang them out to dry is perhaps the biggest load of tosh I’ve read on the subject. Our Board members are top professionals, with a real interest in Hibs. They really are.
    To suggest they gather together in some sort of ‘evil gang’ to ‘hang Tracey and Frank out to dry’ is really laughable if it wasn’t so frankly pathetic.
    Frank and Tracey are proper Hibs fans. Fact. Endof & all that $#@!.
    They aren’t Hun apologists and have suffered the cups of pish, abuse etc that all Hibs fans have at Ipox. Why would they forget that $#@!?
    If they were convinced by the evidence given confidentially at Hibs Board meeting that they chose to go along with a recommendation that suited Hibs then who can blame them?
    That doesn’t mean they (or we) condone the cheating and the chicanery of the SFA it suggests that an investigation on the terms put forward would fail.
    Rightly or wrongly they supported a view that put Hibs (arguably) in the best place.
    I despise the Huns.
    I despise the way that they have been ‘favoured’ by the likes of Campbell Ogilvie, and the SFA appointees who ARE Hun apologists.
    I don’t despise Tracey or Frank, and I don’t think they have been hung out to dry, framed, or played for Patsies.
    In the longer term I think the truth will out, and maybe some sort of justice will prevail.
    I’d still prefer a full investigation, and if I had faith in the polis then I’d like that too.
    As I’ve said before, ignoring the nonsense that gets spouted……….. why does nobody investigate Souness and Sir Cardigan getting EBTs when they were at other clubs? It’s clear to a blind man that bribes took place.
    I’d have liked Hibs to have backed a further investigation, but I’m clear where the crime was committed and it wasn’t at Easter Road.
    In the meantime, I’m going tomorrow.

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    Sorry sir shrink, I dinnae ken Tracy at all but I've known Frank for the best part o' 45 years and I know he's a good hibby. I also dinnae think the board hung them out tae dry. But they were elected tae represent the fans on the board and in that they have failed miserably taegauge the feelings o' the fans, or just ignored it completely. And why should an investigation intae the SFA fail. Were the EBTsregistered wi' the SFA as all payments tae players are supposed tae be, apart fae expenses incurred through travel costs etc.Naw.Should rangers have been granted a UEFA licence given the financial state they were in. Naw.Was the LNS enquiry mislead, almost certainly. It's no' about stripping titles it's about who allowed a' this tae happen, and they're still running the game

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