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    Just back and we paid the penalty for lack of a final product

    Most of you saw the game on telly or online, so with a phone battery with not much juice left I will keep things short and sweet...Tonight was a contrast of styles and fortunes.

    Ross county are a strong physical unit that will grind out results at Dingly Dell and grind out one they did tonight.

    Hibs showed more creativity, nice interplay and footballing style but failed to convert their superior technical ability into goals. Now where have we heard that before...

    Efe made his first appearance of the campaign along with Whittaker in a new to each other back four. Marvin returned to the centre of the park with Mcginn Mcgeouch Squirrel and Swanson. Murray started up top on his own.

    On the first half Hibs entertained with a lot of nice passages of passing play in contrast with the clutter and clatter of the home outfit. There could or should have been a red card for a challenge on Efe but the referee saw fit to hand out a yellow. Swanson was likewise cautioned for a reckless tackle not long after.

    Decent chances were few and far between with the home side possibly coming closest when Lewy had to deflect the ball narrowly past the post. Murray nearly connected with a good Mcginn cross and maybe felt he could have done better on a couple of other occasions

    In the second half County seemed to change their formation to flood midfield and this saw them win more ball but the best chances came when Fox nearly let a soft goal in when he let the ball go through both his hands and legs. Then at the death Squirrel really should have scored in 1 v 1 situation.

    The game sadly ended 0-0.In this daft format the match then went to penalties. Whittaker and Shaw both hit shots that were simple save height for the keeper. Super, Fraser M and squirrel all scored good efforts. It wasn't enough as County scored 4 of their attempts.

    Rocky- not a lot to do really

    Lewis- solid

    Whittaker- strolled it but poor pen

    Darren- was Darren

    Efe- ropey start but came on to a game

    SJM- drove us forward

    Dylan- the tick to John's tock

    Boyle - okay but scorned a winner

    Marvin - marvellous
    Danny- troubled them non stop

    Murray- ran his socks off

    Graham- hurt his back and didn't take a pen Shaw - 5 mins only and sad miss Murray- did well and scored good pen

    Man of the match was easy for me tonight Step up Danny Swanson.More of the same please.Take home message- goals win games.You know what I am saying ..

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    Sorry don't know what happened to the paragraphs
    They were there before posting. On the mobile so not easy to address
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    One up front. When will it get back to the 2 strikers. Looked like good movement throughout the team, same old story.

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    Phew- paragraphs fixed.
    Hibs are standing on the brink of history...

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    Cheers for the report! Thought Marv was solid tonight, couple of stray passes but barring that he had a great game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabbageman View Post
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    Cheers for the report! Thought Marv was solid tonight, couple of stray passes but barring that he had a great game
    He'll be a big player for us this season..in every sense of the word.
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    Thanks for the report, working tonight so didnae see it on the tellybox , sounds like we played well but same old problem

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    Played some good fitba... i thi k that big dave up front will be a big help to murrays game with hold up play
    There were so many times when mcginn passed it into his feet looking for the one two but thr big county defenders bullied him

    Cant fault murrays effort mind you

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    One up front was pretty much dictated by our shortage of 2 quality strikers so I've little concern we will line up often with Murray up front on his own.

    His hold up play needs a lot of work and will improve but that's not what we will get from him and the Big Lith will take care of that which Stokes? and Murray will thrive on playing alongside.

    I thought yesterday was pretty encouraging and with 2 more forwards and a midfielder at least sure to arrive before Partick I would hope we are sharper again with an added goal thread. Another midfielder with goals/creativity will help take the onus away from Swanson but I did notice McGeouch getting in more advanced positions than we have seen from him normally - Aberdeen semi final goal shows what he can do.

    Highlight for me was Lennon's interview at the start of the BT show where we were told of the imminent arrival of a Lithuanian international from Italy, a good/strong offer having been made to Stokes, and his desire for 3 quality signings which were music to my lugs. Not sure if it's 2 or 3 more in addition to the Lith midfielder and whether he is loan or permanent.

    We are on the right path I feel.

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    Good report, thanks J, that is how I seen the game on the telly box.

    Also agree with EA, Hibs are on the right path.
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    We played some nice stuff. We are just lacking in the final third but I'm hopeful that players will be brought in before the Partick game to sort that out.

    We are certainly heading in the right direction.

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    We appear to only really need a natural finisher/ poacher. The type of player that if the ball falls to him, you know it's going in the net. Unfortunately players like that are worth their weight in gold and are well out if our range. We struck lucky with Jase and ideally we could do with another like him but with the added dimension of choosing the right option when the shot isn't on.
    Stokes has that coolness in front of goal but we could do with a younger guy that does the same job.
    Team is shaping up nicely though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
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    We appear to only really need a natural finisher/ poacher. The type of player that if the ball falls to him, you know it's going in the net. Unfortunately players like that are worth their weight in gold and are well out if our range. We struck lucky with Jase and ideally we could do with another like him but with the added dimension of choosing the right option when the shot isn't on.
    Stokes has that coolness in front of goal but we could do with a younger guy that does the same job.
    Team is shaping up nicely though
    I think in time young Oli Shaw may become that player, but someone like Stokes will need to be the main man for now. Simon Murray will score goals if paired with a target man, hopefully big Matulevicius can link the play and score as well.

    But the team as a whole really need to contribute more goals. Swanson & Boyle will but we need McGinn & McGeouch to find the net more often. If Commons is returning, he will certainly add more firepower from midfield.

    Whittaker isn't afraid to shoot either, hopefully he will chip in a with a few. I also think our centre backs need to offer more of a threat from corners, although that also comes down to the quality of delivery.
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    Cheers SK11 from watching on the telebob I thought we were ok. Wish the midfielders widhavea pop more often.
    Big Sid would have been ideal against that big **** at the back last night.


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    For me, the whole midfield was very good- a lot of good running from Boyle with some quality early balls in which Jase or Stokesy would happily stick away. The defence, on the other hand, had its moments- both Darren & Lewis passed straight to County players in our own final third and some of Efe's marking was really shoddy. A few more games & they'll be back to their rock solid best.

    Best player on the park for me was actually their CB (and captain?) Davies- Murray had no joy against him whatsoever. From our lot, def between McGinn & Bartley.

    And Lenny was right, as a team we were way better. When we get these 3 quality signings in & get up to speed, we're going to be formidable. Really looking forward to the new season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GdanskHibee View Post
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    The defence, on the other hand, had its moments- both Darren & Lewis passed straight to County players
    You must have seen the wrong beard, Darren never gives the ball away

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    Cheers for he report mate, just seen the highlights now was too busy to even catch it on the tv. Good to hear that we seem to be heading in the right direction and are just a couple shots off a relatively solid squad...like we all thought.

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    Swanson 1st half was a joy to watch, the kind of player I love watching, I've wanted him at Hibs for years and so happy he has eventually arrived.
    Big Marv , the polar opposite of DS is exactly the type of boy you want in your team. I love the man, sticks to his tasks and dosent get messed about by " nae **** " as Begbie would say. Even though RC did come into a bit more 2nd half, I thought we were by far the better team without getting a wee break up front . Hopefully Davy the Lith is just the muscle we need up there, and as soon as stokesy comes to pick up his knighthood I do believe we have season to look forward too.
    RC is a pishy wee team, fi a pishy wee toon, wi a pishy support, with a team of thugs. It's nae wonder Scottish fitba is on its erse when clubs like this are firmly entrenched in our top league. They belong beside the Arbroaths and Peterheads.
    Finishing 2nd in the group is no bad thing, get a bigger team in next round, we've all had our fill of pishy wee teams, bring on the sevco.

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    I quite enjoyed the game while supping pints!

    I think Bob (Lennons name for the new striker) would have made a huge difference. He looks like the type that would have given their CB a torrid time.I

    Onwards and upwards.

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    We need a goal scoring midfielder as well

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    As a post script...was anyone in the overflow section and can explain what caused a bit of a "conversation" about (I think) Graham?
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    good report and pretty accurate

    don't know why we didn't get just get the whole away end instead of being crammed into the small side stand and corner of away end

    the lads chucking the inflatable sheep about in the Hibs end were the unfunniest folk ever.
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    A solid frame and as it stands quiet happy with progress. Loved to see Steven back a good pro , perhaps the best player of the golden generation for me. I miss Fraser though . Struggling with this Betfred cup early rounds but hey ho......
    The obvious additions and a top six finish should be attainable . Perhaps more........

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    Quote Originally Posted by south west hiby View Post
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    I miss Fraser though
    Where would Fraser fit into a midfield when we already have options of McGinn, McGeouch, Bartley, Swanson, Whittaker, The new Lith expected to sign and Boyle if played wide right in midfield. Or Martin and F Murray for that matter.

    We've got a limited budget and plenty of midfield options. Surely money would be better spent elsewhere or get a midfielder who can play in the final third.

    Lennon's called this one right......eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EA2007 View Post
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    Where would Fraser fit into a midfield when we already have options of McGinn, McGeouch, Bartley, Swanson, Whittaker, The new Lith expected to sign and Boyle if played wide right in midfield. Or Martin and F Murray for that matter.

    We've got a limited budget and plenty of midfield options. Surely money would be better spent elsewhere or get a midfielder who can play in the final third.

    Lennon's called this one right......eventually.
    By getting rid of Bartley Instead. Lennon does favour Bartley in the holding role , I don't. Bartley for me as discussed last year is a one trick pony who slows play too much. Though he does do that trick of physical beast rather well I must say. Fraser brings intelligence , better technical ability , leadership to that role for me but is shaded by Barts in physical terms which appeals to NL.
    Of course Mr Lennon is the boss not me but I don't agree with his thinking in that position. The old opinions conundrum . If AS had still been here lets say Bartley would of left Fraser would of not , the fortunes of football.
    I miss Fraser I stand by that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by south west hiby View Post
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    By getting rid of Bartley Instead. Lennon does favour Bartley in the holding role , I don't. Bartley for me as discussed last year is a one trick pony who slows play too much. Though he does do that trick of physical beast rather well I must say. Fraser brings intelligence , better technical ability , leadership to that role for me but is shaded by Barts in physical terms which appeals to NL.
    Of course Mr Lennon is the boss not me but I don't agree with his thinking in that position. The old opinions conundrum . If AS had still been here lets say Bartley would of left Fraser would of not , the fortunes of football.
    I miss Fraser I stand by that.
    I don't get that at all. The game against Ross County was certainly one where he kept the ball moving forward. I might be in a minority but it seems to me that people see what they want to see where Bartman is concerned. For me he doesn't slow things down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by south west hiby View Post
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    By getting rid of Bartley Instead. Lennon does favour Bartley in the holding role , I don't. Bartley for me as discussed last year is a one trick pony who slows play too much. Though he does do that trick of physical beast rather well I must say. Fraser brings intelligence , better technical ability , leadership to that role for me but is shaded by Barts in physical terms which appeals to NL.
    Of course Mr Lennon is the boss not me but I don't agree with his thinking in that position. The old opinions conundrum . If AS had still been here lets say Bartley would of left Fraser would of not , the fortunes of football.
    I miss Fraser I stand by that.
    Bartley does the defensive mid role better than Fyvie so I agree with Lennon.
    Fyvie will find his level elsewhere although seems there's not so much interest at a decent level and he's another one that's valued far higher on forums than by football managers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dub View Post
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    I don't get that at all. The game against Ross County was certainly one where he kept the ball moving forward. I might be in a minority but it seems to me that people see what they want to see where Bartman is concerned. For me he doesn't slow things down.
    He actually had a couple of good touches flicks and turns on Friday night Dub. Caught my eye because I have never seen him do that before.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dub View Post
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    I don't get that at all. The game against Ross County was certainly one where he kept the ball moving forward. I might be in a minority but it seems to me that people see what they want to see where Bartman is concerned. For me he doesn't slow things down.
    Merely my opinion Dub. His passing is laboured lacks zip , and when he gets over the half way line a nose bleed ensues , I'm not saying Hes not good at what he does win it and give it , but Fraser for me offers a more rounded game in general . But the only opinion that counts is Lennon's. And he doesn't agree with me but I think Hes wrong on this one .

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    Bartley does the defensive mid role better than Fyvie so I agree with Lennon.
    Fyvie will find his level elsewhere although seems there's not so much interest at a decent level and he's another one that's valued far higher on forums than by football managers.
    Against certain opposition I think Bartley does play that role better , on the flip side against other opposition Fraser imo does. However I still believe that Fraser offers overall more rounded game. However Lennon has made his call and I respect that , but think a personality clash between Lennon and Fraser played a significant part of Fyfe's demise rather than his ability. That's fitba.
    Its one of them I do not agree with Lennon on this particular call and think there is justification to do so.

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    Merely my opinion Dub. His passing is laboured lacks zip , and when he gets over the half way line a nose bleed ensues , I'm not saying Hes not good at what he does win it and give it , but Fraser for me offers a more rounded game in general . But the only opinion that counts is Lennon's. And he doesn't agree with me but I think Hes wrong on this one .

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    Against certain opposition I think Bartley does play that role better , on the flip side against other opposition Fraser imo does. However I still believe that Fraser offers overall more rounded game. However Lennon has made his call and I respect that , but think a personality clash between Lennon and Fraser played a significant part of Fyfe's demise rather than his ability. That's fitba.
    Its one of them I do not agree with Lennon on this particular call and think there is justification to do so.
    Its a nice position to be in though, debating who is better, rather than the debate of old as "whose the worst" lol
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    Its a nice position to be in though, debating who is better, rather than the debate of old as "whose the worst" lol
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