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    HSL 100K Appeal?

    Anyone see or hear of this? One of the Proclaimers not sure if it's Charlie or Craig but they've done an HSL video saying they want to raise 100K over the next few months to boost the budget for Neil Lennon this window.

    This has prompted some negative reactions on social media which I disagree with. The reality is some other clubs in Scotland will always have bigger budgets than us so the more money put into the pot the better and the facts are we will never have enough money. So IMHO it's daft to object to any attempt to raise more cash for the budget for the manager.

    I'm just curious though to HSL. We've had Jackie McNamara on here promoting HSL. And we have the non Hibby Kenny Macaskill as chairman? And the Proclaimers are involved? I just don't think they've communicated clearly with the support? I've bought shares directly from the club but I'm thinking of doing HSL.

    In recent previous years the club has highlighted the benefits of HSL contributions but again this summer like other parts of the clubs PR it's been quiet.

    What's others experience of HSL?

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    Just watched video and it put me off a bit. Was seriously tempted last night thinking it was for a specific player but sounds to be to keep things ticking over.

    Agree in essence to your post but again if they want money at least show something for it, a wee cow maybe 🤣

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastMeetsWest View Post
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    Just watched video and it put me off a bit. Was seriously tempted last night thinking it was for a specific player but sounds to be to keep things ticking over.

    Agree in essence to your post but again if they want money at least show something for it, a wee cow maybe 🤣

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    Seemed a bit half hearted just like the rest of communication this summer. But it is a good cause just wondering where Hibs spent money so far.

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    Haven't seen video and not going to knock it as we prob do need more cash in to compete and if them across the city can be so blatant with a cash cow and numerous pleas (begs) for cash then why can't we.

    Really varies on two things for me, how much a club means to people, and what they feel they want to give to that club, (particularly when nothing in return other than possibly seeing us sign better players)

    And how much free cash anyone has.

    Some people have things they see far more important, like family, holiday, mortgage, weddings, food, other charitable giving etc etc but if football is right up there then fine.

    I would say though also that £100k is equivelent to a fiver from 20k people. Much less than attended the cup final...sounds good in theory though the reality is it will end up the same few thousand that give every time.

    Football though has got out of hand. We will as has been said always need more money, so will other clubs. As good players demand more money and huge teams pay million upon millions to secure the players they want, the small fry will struggle to even get a grip of the coat tails. Think about it, even £4k a week is way in excess of what almost any of us will ever earn in their life. Of course they say, yes but players have a short career, well with 4k a week, if you can't afford a private tutor to get you qualifications for after football there is something far wrong...course that is a different subject, so yeh give more cash if you can afford...and feel you wanna help

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    Good post, @Smurf. I also agree totally about that "short career" bollocks. I've had various short careers in fast food, as a slaters labourer, a barman, kitchen fitter etc - I wish I'd thought to ask for £4k a week, seeing as how I'd find it difficult to get up and down a ladder in ma 40s...

    At the end of the day, as they also keep saying when they show zero loyalty to clubs, it's just a job. When you're not fit for that job anymore - get another $#@!in job. They probably won't have a mortgage, so a wee job in Greggs should keep the pin money ticking over.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Smurf View Post
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    Anyone see or hear of this? One of the Proclaimers not sure if it's Charlie or Craig but they've done an HSL video saying they want to raise 100K over the next few months to boost the budget for Neil Lennon this window.

    This has prompted some negative reactions on social media which I disagree with. The reality is some other clubs in Scotland will always have bigger budgets than us so the more money put into the pot the better and the facts are we will never have enough money. So IMHO it's daft to object to any attempt to raise more cash for the budget for the manager.

    I'm just curious though to HSL. We've had Jackie McNamara on here promoting HSL. And we have the non Hibby Kenny Macaskill as chairman? And the Proclaimers are involved? I just don't think they've communicated clearly with the support? I've bought shares directly from the club but I'm thinking of doing HSL.

    In recent previous years the club has highlighted the benefits of HSL contributions but again this summer like other parts of the clubs PR it's been quiet.

    What's others experience of HSL?
    My experience after contributing for 2 years,is them taking double payments last month,me asking why,then cancelling after no getting a reply over a month later....

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    Quote Originally Posted by aggie View Post
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    Good post, @Smurf. I also agree totally about that "short career" bollocks. I've had various short careers in fast food, as a slaters labourer, a barman, kitchen fitter etc - I wish I'd thought to ask for £4k a week, seeing as how I'd find it difficult to get up and down a ladder in ma 40s...

    At the end of the day, as they also keep saying when they show zero loyalty to clubs, it's just a job. When you're not fit for that job anymore - get another $#@!in job. They probably won't have a mortgage, so a wee job in Greggs should keep the pin money ticking over.


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    The short career thing rips ma knitting. It always has been a total slap in the face of those who scrimp and save to be able to go to the football and pay these poor wee souls a wage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aggie View Post
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    Good post, @Smurf. I also agree totally about that "short career" bollocks. I've had various short careers in fast food, as a slaters labourer, a barman, kitchen fitter etc - I wish I'd thought to ask for £4k a week, seeing as how I'd find it difficult to get up and down a ladder in ma 40s...

    At the end of the day, as they also keep saying when they show zero loyalty to clubs, it's just a job. When you're not fit for that job anymore - get another $#@!in job. They probably won't have a mortgage, so a wee job in Greggs should keep the pin money ticking over.


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    The short career bollox does my head in. I know some players are on 'rubbish money' but as an example - a player earning £2k a week for 10 years will earn the same in that time as a person working for 40 years on an average salary of £26k a year. Increase that £2k per week by a thousand quid [or more] and suddenly the 10 year total is outwith the grasp of many people who work all their lives. Besides, once a players career is finished there is nothing to stop them getting another job in the real world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PILTONSTANY View Post
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    My experience after contributing for 2 years,is them taking double payments last month,me asking why,then cancelling after no getting a reply over a month later....
    I cancelled mine too. Took the money for 2 years. Have to apply yourself for the bit of paper to say you are a member and the one communication I've had is them asking me for more money. I'd like to like to know how they've used the 2 years worth first...
    Hibs are standing on the brink of history...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKII View Post
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    I cancelled mine too. Took the money for 2 years. Have to apply yourself for the bit of paper to say you are a member and the one communication I've had is them asking me for more money. I'd like to like to know how they've used the 2 years worth first...
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    Well HSL sounds like a shambles. Is it run independent of the club? Does it publish an annual report/accounts?

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    I don't think it's a very well thought out video to be honest. We've just sold our best striker for a reported 1m, have record ST numbers, the strips have sold a record amount but as yet, we haven't spent a penny on a transfer to replace him!! Nearly every piece of comms from the clubs official channels recently are pushing something for sale and now this.....it's a bit much!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smurf View Post
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    Anyone see or hear of this? One of the Proclaimers not sure if it's Charlie or Craig but they've done an HSL video saying they want to raise 100K over the next few months to boost the budget for Neil Lennon this window.This has prompted some negative reactions on social media which I disagree with. The reality is some other clubs in Scotland will always have bigger budgets than us so the more money put into the pot the better and the facts are we will never have enough money. So IMHO it's daft to object to any attempt to raise more cash for the budget for the manager.I'm just curious though to HSL. We've had Jackie McNamara on here promoting HSL. And we have the non Hibby Kenny Macaskill as chairman? And the Proclaimers are involved? I just don't think they've communicated clearly with the support? I've bought shares directly from the club but I'm thinking of doing HSL.In recent previous years the club has highlighted the benefits of HSL contributions but again this summer like other parts of the clubs PR it's been quiet.What's others experience of HSL?
    I find that rather disturbing surely we ain't short of cash that the so called independent HSL where Dempster and Dunn are directors are asking the fans for more cash.Fans have done more than enough last few years. Up to the board to get decent investment into the club.£100k what will that achieve in terms of challenging top end of SPl

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    I cancelled mine too. Took the money for 2 years. Have to apply yourself for the bit of paper to say you are a member and the one communication I've had is them asking me for more money. I'd like to like to know how they've used the 2 years worth first...
    It will have been used to buy shares. I'm not even sure their rules allow them to buy as much as a stamp! How the club has used that money? Like all the other monies I doubt it will be wasted.

    I thought it was interesting though the last time I saw figures it appeared most had been bought by individual shareholders. It surprised me and maybe left them a bit deflated and hit their momentum.
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    I love The Proclaimers, they seem like really sound guys and their music is brilliant.

    But millionaire celebrities asking folk to give even more cash to Hibs ( or any cause) is something that drives me mental.

    Put a Proclaimers gig on at ER in aid of HSL, that would make way more than £100K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smurf View Post
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    Well HSL sounds like a shambles. Is it run independent of the club? Does it publish an annual report/accounts?
    Yes it's independent from the club although as has been mentioned there's a bit of crossover.

    I think it does publish accounts although I haven't seen any. I think it's had the equivalent of an AGM but as I wasn't fully paid up at the time was ineligible to attend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southfieldhibby View Post
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    I love The Proclaimers, they seem like really sound guys and their music is brilliant.But millionaire celebrities asking folk to give even more cash to Hibs ( or any cause) is something that drives me mental.Put a Proclaimers gig on at ER in aid of HSL, that would make way more than £100K.
    Great suggestion and cash can be used to buy shares in hibs

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    I find that rather disturbing surely we ain't short of cash that the so called independent HSL where Dempster and Dunn are directors are asking the fans for more cash.Fans have done more than enough last few years. Up to the board to get decent investment into the club.£100k what will that achieve in terms of challenging top end of SPl
    We'll never have enough or too much money :-)

    There's some supporters well able to afford a couple of grand for a season ticket in the all inclusive super package. If folk can afford it I see no reason the club or HSL shouldn't seek to take advantage.

    There is a department/team at the club who's job it is to attract sponsors and other income. It must have been difficult in the 3 years we were in the wilderness! But hey! We've retained Marathonbet, who have been good for us in my opinion and got a couple of others for the new season.

    It would be brilliant to have some millionaires/billionaires chuck money at the club. I reckon they must be pretty thin on the ground ;-)

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    If, after everything - record STs, JC money, wage bill slashed - a hat is being put round for 100k for players then someone is taking the piss.

    Ownership of Hibs is still a big problem and holding us back. A billionaire owner who doesnt give a $#@!. Only Hibs could end up in that ridiculous situation.

    And before anyone pipes in with "he saved the club" he's had full credit for that. This is about the future not the past. Sooner Farmer has nothing to do with Hibs the better.

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    Horrendous timing. Very poor judgement from those involved. Has actually put me off investing further into HSL, perhaps an emotional overreaction.

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    Posted apparently by Stephen Dunn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibeesbounceross View Post
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    Horrendous timing. Very poor judgement from those involved. Has actually put me off investing further into HSL, perhaps an emotional overreaction.
    I can't see how any time could be a bad time, other than when the club is launching something.

    Compared to a few years ago when it started there's an awful lot more supporters who perhaps weren't as connected to the club back then. Season tickets up around 4,000 is a 50% increase in those willing to commit, record strip sales showing those at the periphery becoming more interested.

    All the more people who might want to be closer to the club.

    There's also the bigger picture of what's happening to our rivals.

    The gunts are being pumped for over a million a year to FOH. They've apparently got record ST sales, at higher prices than we're charging and they've got that cow!

    The 🐑 have found a benefactor who's given them a million.

    If we're to compete in the pitch we need to compete off the pitch too.

    The current directors will require to step down in about 6 months time. Maybe that would be a good time to have a relaunch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Sleeves View Post
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    If, after everything - record STs, JC money, wage bill slashed - a hat is being put round for 100k for players then someone is taking the piss.

    Ownership of Hibs is still a big problem and holding us back. A billionaire owner who doesnt give a $#@!. Only Hibs could end up in that ridiculous situation.

    And before anyone pipes in with "he saved the club" he's had full credit for that. This is about the future not the past. Sooner Farmer has nothing to do with Hibs the better.

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    Makes me wonder if it is more about raising 100k for Hibs or for HSL to speed up their share increase

    Also makes me wonder that if/when shareholders HSL take over, is this how they are going to raise funds for players.

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    Like many others, i give Hibs hundreds of pounds a year in ST cash and merchandise. I just spent over a hundred quid in the shop last week. Hibs already get more than enough of my money. I dont need to feel guilty about not coughing up even more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
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    Like many others, i give Hibs hundreds of pounds a year in ST cash and merchandise. I just spent over a hundred quid in the shop last week. Hibs already get more than enough of my money. I dont need to feel guilty about not coughing up even more.
    To be fair I don't think anyone is trying to make anyone feel guilty. We all put in as much as we can but bottom line is the club needs more cash. Just the reality of it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smurf View Post
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    To be fair I don't think anyone is trying to make anyone feel guilty. We all put in as much as we can but bottom line is the club needs more cash. Just the reality of it....
    Aye, i know that`s not the implication. Guilty was the wrong word to use. I meant it more in the way i personally feel about not giving more money. We all give what we can afford and everyone has their own limit.
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    Maybe just me but all this coming at a time when 'some' folk are voicing concerns about the club not splashing the cash to land marquee signings suggests to me that all is not well financially behind the scenes which is why we aren't yet landing those quality players who want a bigger slice of the pie.
    I've suspected all along that the cash from the sale of JC and offloading players in the manner we have was to put us on an even keel rather than make any big impact in the transfer market.
    I'm not fazed by that if it is the case as having a club to support is more important. I may (hopefully) yet be proved wrong and there is money there for the quality needed for the SPL
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    With the lack of transfer action in January and the Cummings money, there should be more than enough cash already.

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    I've not watched the video, but I have to say I agree with Greenpower and one or two others on this matter. I find it rather odd that Hibs at this stage of the transfer window with Lennon finalising deals, that HSL who have been silent for about a year, now pop up suddenly to ask the fans for yet more money. We have broken the club record in season ticket sales and sold our top striker for around £1 Million. If they were wanting to add to Lennon's player budget, why didn't they make this appeal right at the end of last season after we had won promotion to take advantage of the feel-good factor then ? Also it would have been better t get the money in early...I just find it strange that they are making this appeal now after such a long period of silence.

    Really hope as has been suggested but some, that it is not that our club finances are worse than we thought they were.
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    I've not watched the video, but I have to say I agree with Greenpower and one or two others on this matter. I find it rather odd that Hibs at this stage of the transfer window with Lennon finalising deals, that HSL who have been silent for about a year, pop up to ask the fans for yet more money. We have broken the club record in season ticket sales and sold our top striker for around £1 Million. If they were wanting to add to Lennon's player budget, why didn't they make this appeal right at the end of last season after we had won promotion to take advantage of the feel-good factor then ? Also it would have been better t get the money in early...I just find it strange that they are making this appeal now after such a long period of silence.

    Really hope as has been suggested but some, that it is not that our club finances are worse than we thought they were.
    I think HSL should be considered as a longer term investment in the club although they themselves for effect might have to go for shorter term hits.
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    Are you throwing your hat in the middle @Jack to get nominated onto the board of HSL when this comes up soon? 🤔

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    Are you throwing your hat in the middle @Jack to get nominated onto the board of HSL when this comes up soon? 🤔
    To be honest being on the edge of 'official' Hibs appeals. Or maybe it would have not so long ago.

    Not now. My current life couldn't get any better.

    Or why make myself a target for untold abuse when all I want is the best for folk like me that support Hibs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    To be honest being on the edge of 'official' Hibs appeals. Or maybe it would have not so long ago.Not now. My current life couldn't get any better.Or why make myself a target for untold abuse when all I want is the best for folk like me that support Hibs? It's a fine line.
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    The club will always needs funds. I guess the timing given the lack of communication over summer and the lack of new strikers has maybe not helped. Some still have the perception that they get nothing back from hsl. Hsl have a objective which is fairly clear.

    Personally I also think a good membership scheme would maybe work. Say £10 per month, with discounts at shop, hospitality packages , monthly draws for signed gear and perhaps a members monthly newsletter.

    It's our club and our responsibility to fund it, it does stick in the theist that our board and owner won't step up more. Asking fans for another 100k with in 2.5 months is the payment to stf is too much for some.

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    I've not watched (beyond the first 30 seconds of) the begging video, and have only skimmed through the posts above.
    Apologies if this has already been asked & answered but:
    Q1 Why has this been released now? At a time when the Hibs support has dug deep, after 3 years in the second tier plus a few in free fall prior to that, to achieve record Season Ticket numbers? We now have a video telling us what we've done isn't enough?? WTF?
    I can only say thank $#@! I've nothing to do with HSL if this is their level. Thankfully I bought my shares direct.
    Q2: Why is Sir Tom Farmer being quoted by various and indeed varied sources as being a Billionaire? It seems his wealth has increased by at least a factor of 10 without him even trying?

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    I've not watched (beyond the first 30 seconds of) the begging video, and have only skimmed through the posts above. Apologies if this has already been asked & answered but:Q1 Why has this been released now? At a time when the Hibs support has dug deep, after 3 years in the second tier plus a few in free fall prior to that, to achieve record Season Ticket numbers? We now have a video telling us what we've done isn't enough?? WTF? I can only say thank $#@! I've nothing to do with HSL if this is their level. Thankfully I bought my shares direct.Q2: Why is Sir Tom Farmer being quoted by various and indeed varied sources as being a Billionaire? It seems his wealth has increased by at least a factor of 10 without him even trying?
    Because some folk like to "Slav"er on social media to make things appear worse than they are.

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    Because some folk like to "Slav"er on social media to make things appear worse than they are.
    That's kinda what I thought - but as I tend not to give a $#@! about the Times Rich List (since they never mention me) I just wanted to check I hadn't missed some important financial news. Ta.

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    I've not watched (beyond the first 30 seconds of) the begging video, and have only skimmed through the posts above.
    Apologies if this has already been asked & answered but:
    Q1 Why has this been released now? At a time when the Hibs support has dug deep, after 3 years in the second tier plus a few in free fall prior to that, to achieve record Season Ticket numbers? We now have a video telling us what we've done isn't enough?? WTF?
    I can only say thank $#@! I've nothing to do with HSL if this is their level. Thankfully I bought my shares direct.
    Q2: Why is Sir Tom Farmer being quoted by various and indeed varied sources as being a Billionaire? It seems his wealth has increased by at least a factor of 10 without him even trying?
    To be honest I've not watched the video at all. The first few posts on here and over there didn't inspire me to spend any of the time short I have left lol¡

    Q1 see my post above if you can be bothered! I don't mean that in a nasty way. Although add to that when would be a good time in your opinion? Let's go back over the last 6 months/year or so? Hundreds of folk are saying if you can you will, no pressure but those who don't ask don't get. I'm in they could have done better in the last year ... or so ... encouraging supporters to sign up.

    Q2 I'm not sure but he's undoubtedly delighted at the news!

    Let's just remind ourselves he's insisted the club is sustainable in its own right and for the long term. That's been his mantra from day 1 and on day brazillion I can't see it changing. Those that aren't used to that by now just need to suck it up. He is not going to live for ever anyway!
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    If we're going to be a majority fan owned club then we'd better get used to being tapped by the club for funds.... We'd be better with someone with cash to splash owning 51% of the club
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    To be honest I've not watched the video at all. The first few posts on here and over there didn't inspire me to spend any of the time short I have left lol¡

    Q1 see my post above if you can be bothered! I don't mean that in a nasty way. Although add to that when would be a good time in your opinion? Let's go back over the last 6 months/year or so? Hundreds of folk are saying if you can you will, no pressure but those who don't ask don't get. I'm in they could have done better in the last year ... or so ... encouraging supporters to sign up.

    Q2 I'm not sure but he's undoubtedly delighted at the news!

    Let's just remind ourselves he's insisted the club is sustainable in its own right and for the long term. That's been his mantra from day 1 and on day brazillion I can't see it changing. Those that aren't used to that by now just need to suck it up. He is not going to live for ever anyway!
    Jack: You seem to have taken my "Q2" as me having a dig at STF. In fact the opposite is correct. I was having a go at the spurious claims being made by the people having a go at STF!
    As for your first point referencing your own previous (multiple) posts on topic? Well, let's just say that's a bit harder to follow.

    In the interests of clarity let me just say I don't 'get' the HSL. It seems to me to be a group of Hibs fans being paid by another body/group/collective/individuals to purchase shares on 'their' behalf - which the purchasers will never actually own?
    Isn't that what we're constantly amused at the maroon balloons for doing with FoH?

    Personally I'm happier to have bought my shares direct - though I'm not going to preach to anyone else.

    Everyone should make their own decisions of financial commitment based on facts I'd suggest, rather than on tabloid like sensationalism with words like 'billionaire' being quoted.

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    The suggestion of a concert at ER by the twins is a belter. Can't believe it hasn't been mentioned before , never mind actually happened. It would be both a money spinner and top top night . The more I think about it, the more I can't believe it's not a yearly event.
    As for Hibs looking for money, well more money to be brutal, I think we underestimate what the last three years has cost us.
    It does itch my teeth hearing millionaires ( sometimes tax dodging ones at that) try and prick our conscience so we part with more of our hard earned, but it's a bit different here. Scottish fitba is seriously skint , not much money comes in apart from through the gate

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    Whether Tom Farmer is a billionaire - as he's described in some papers - or worth the £130m it says on Wikipedia isnae the point. He's minted but doesnt invest in the club.

    His company want to keep hold of 49% in the long term (after 51% sold to HSL). Hibs might have more ambition and vision if he was to openly state his plan is to leave the club entirely with new owners actively sought. Put the club on the market. Nobody is saying take the first chancer who comes along. Give HSL power of veto. But get fresh money into Hibs beyond HSL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tayside hibee View Post
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    The suggestion of a concert at ER by the twins is a belter. Can't believe it hasn't been mentioned before , never mind actually happened. It would be both a money spinner and top top night . The more I think about it, the more I can't believe it's not a yearly event.
    As for Hibs looking for money, well more money to be brutal, I think we underestimate what the last three years has cost us.
    It does itch my teeth hearing millionaires ( sometimes tax dodging ones at that) try and prick our conscience so we part with more of our hard earned, but it's a bit different here. Scottish fitba is seriously skint , not much money comes in apart from through the gate


    how about a concert, tennis with the Murrays, Golf with Bernard Gallagher...or at least a few of his young buddies evening with Aiden Smith, Irvine Welsh, and exhibition boxing with umpteen Hibbies from Edinburgh club....no doubt a lot more people could be added to list, should bring in a fair few bob

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    Whether Tom Farmer is a billionaire - as he's described in some papers - or worth the £130m it says on Wikipedia isnae the point. He's minted but doesnt invest in the club.

    His company want to keep hold of 49% in the long term (after 51% sold to HSL). Hibs might have more ambition and vision if he was to openly state his plan is to leave the club entirely with new owners actively sought. Put the club on the market. Nobody is saying take the first chancer who comes along. Give HSL power of veto. But get fresh money into Hibs beyond HSL.

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    Whether Tom Farmer is a billionaire - as he's described in some papers - or worth the £130m it says on Wikipedia isnae the point. He's minted but doesnt invest in the club.

    His company want to keep hold of 49% in the long term (after 51% sold to HSL). Hibs might have more ambition and vision if he was to openly state his plan is to leave the club entirely with new owners actively sought. Put the club on the market. Nobody is saying take the first chancer who comes along. Give HSL power of veto. But get fresh money into Hibs beyond HSL.

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    Hsl won't get as high a % as mentioned due to individual shareholders

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    Charlie Reid saying in the video that we lost £1.5 million during our time in the Championship. If anyone is in any doubt about our situation that should focus the minds

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    Yes it should be why has it taken until now for this detail to come out? That 1.5 cannot be far off the payments to stf so the club has done pretty damn well breaking even if the major shareholder could have waived payments during championship years.

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    Yes it should be why has it taken until now for this detail to come out? That 1.5 cannot be far off the payments to stf so the club has done pretty damn well breaking even if the major shareholder could have waived payments during championship years.
    The Scottish Cup win will have kept the losses at £1.5 million. The thought of the financial impact on the club without that success and subsequent Bounce in attendance doesn't bear thinking about.Some of the 'hidden" finances like loss of TV money and sponsorship premiums hit hard.

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    It's disappointing our main shareholder didn't postpone his annual repayments during this period.

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