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    Quote Originally Posted by Smurf View Post
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    The likes of us, Hearts & Aberdeen should be putting out a joint statement.
    Is this a wind up?
    Their financial crime far exceeded that of the HunDogs and they got stripped of feck all Scottish Cups so neither will Rangers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4MMY View Post
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    Seen somewhere on twitter yesterday that Aberdeen had said they won't be releasing a statement on it
    Sounds like something from Yes Prime Minister. Humphrey suggests putting out a statement that there will be no statement!
    Space to let

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dub View Post
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    It's not just the titles Steve. Entry in to European competition has been taken away from clubs because they didn't finish high enough in as league that was distorted. Money that the huns got from European entries would have gone to these clubs. Scottish cup finals [not to mention earlier rounds] where clubs lost to the huns resulting in less money and again, the loss of a European slot. They got away with this for years and now they have been found out they should be suitably punished.

    If it was up to me, any money they got from Europe/Title wins/Cup wins should be given to the next best placed team who might have finished in a better position if not for the huns cheating. The SFA can pay this out of any cash due to the huns at the end of each season [fining them won't be much good except that it could push them over the edge again which would be nice]. The money could be paid out based on team positions etc from the year the cheating began and continue each year until everyone of the clubs cheated out of something are paid back. It's a stretch I know.

    Regan, Doncaster, Ogilvie [especially Ogilvie] should be thrown out of office for allowing this cheating to go on and a new board appointed who have no confirmed allegiance to either of the Old Firm.

    I agree with @Smurf [as always]
    And let's not forget, throughout that entire period you couldn't see a day go by without the Hun reminding everyone of just how great they were and how they were going to build mega-casinos and how they were one of the world's biggest clubs etc, etc - and also how they arrogantly and jokingly 'Welcomed the challenge' and the now infamous 'For every £5 Celtic spend, we'll spend £10' by Murray - and we all know HOW they could afford to do that !! Murray and his cohorts KNEW he/they were cheating but just couldn't resist thumbing the nose of the entire Scottish game


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    " Scottish FA statement on Supreme Court ruling
    Wednesday, 05 July 2017


    The Board of the Scottish FA notes the judgment of the Supreme Court and wishes to clarify the implications of this final legal decision from a football regulatory perspective.

    In light of the Inner House of the Court of Session decision, the Board of the Scottish FA sought external senior counsel opinion to ensure a robust and independent consideration of all implications of today’s judgment.

    The Board received written advice from Senior Counsel, amplified when the QC attended a full meeting of the Board to discuss his conclusions.

    Specifically, Senior Counsel was asked to anticipate whether a determination in favour of HMRC, as announced today, could imply that there had been a breach of the Scottish FA’s Disciplinary Rules as they applied at the time of the EBT payments.

    The clear opinion of Senior Counsel is that there is a very limited chance of the Scottish FA succeeding in relation to any complaint regarding this matter and that, even if successful, any sanctions available to a Judicial Panel would also be limited in their scope.

    Accordingly, having had time to consider the opinion from Senior Counsel, and having examined the judgment of the UK Supreme Court, the Board has determined that no further disciplinary action should be taken by the Scottish FA at this time. "
    Yeah right - on every other important event, the GFA's been caught 'with it's pants down' more often than the worlds busiest hooker but on THIS occasion, all of a sudden they're proactive ??. Give me a break - it's highly unlikely they'd win a case against a proven cheat ??. FFS - just more confirmation they DO think we all buton-up at the back of the head !

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    Quote Originally Posted by EA2007 View Post
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    Is this a wind up?
    Their financial crime far exceeded that of the HunDogs and they got stripped of feck all Scottish Cups so neither will Rangers.
    No it's not a wind up. They were not liquidated. Big difference.

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    The silence of clubs is a disgrace,
    Continuing to show contempt to the fans who fund them.

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    done

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    do we still have fans directors[gone a bit quiet on here since the election] and if so is it no' part o' their brief to communicate the feelings o' the fans tae the board . Wouldnt it be nice if our club, for once, grew a pair

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    Quote Originally Posted by paigntonhibby View Post
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    done- - - Updated - - -do we still have fans directors[gone a bit quiet on here since the election] and if so is it no' part o' their brief to communicate the feelings o' the fans tae the board . Wouldnt it be nice if our club, for once, grew a pair
    Yes we do. @traceyhibs

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    Quote Originally Posted by paigntonhibby View Post
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    done

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    do we still have fans directors[gone a bit quiet on here since the election] and if so is it no' part o' their brief to communicate the feelings o' the fans tae the board . Wouldnt it be nice if our club, for once, grew a pair
    Yes both Frank and myself are on here. We have been keeping an all comments and are aware of the feelings amongst the support re this


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    Quote Originally Posted by traceyhibs View Post
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    Yes both Frank and myself are on here. We have been keeping an all comments and are aware of the feelings amongst the support re this


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    Quote Originally Posted by traceyhibs View Post
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    Yes both Frank and myself are on here. We have been keeping an all comments and are aware of the feelings amongst the support re this


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    Furthermore, what can you tell us about the Luke Berry debacle, and yourself and Frank's involvement (i.e. Cryptic retweeting and liking of "rumours")


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    Quote Originally Posted by aggie View Post
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    Furthermore, what can you tell us about the Luke Berry debacle, and yourself and Frank's involvement (i.e. Cryptic retweeting and liking of "rumours")


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    Only what Neil Lennon said in his interview is that the deal is off. I think everyone just assumed things with regards to the liking of the tweet which I cant see anymore. Tam's tweet I believe was a generalisation of social media/media and posting. That's how I took it anyway. I might be wrong but that's how I took it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by traceyhibs View Post
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    Only what Neil Lennon said in his interview is that the deal is off. I think everyone just assumed things with regards to the liking of the tweet which I cant see anymore. Tam's tweet I believe was a generalisation of social media/media and posting. That's how I took it anyway. I might be wrong but that's how I took it.


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    Okay, fair enough. Was just wondering whether you could confirm that the deal was indeed scuppered due to some kind of adverse social media, which seems the most bizarre reason for a football transfer to break down.


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    Quote Originally Posted by traceyhibs View Post
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    Yes both Frank and myself are on here. We have been keeping an all comments and are aware of the feelings amongst the support re this


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    I'm aware that you're aware, my point is will you be making the board aware

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    Quote Originally Posted by paigntonhibby View Post
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    I'm aware that you're aware, my point is will you be making the board aware
    Yes we will as we do with all your concerns


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    Quote Originally Posted by traceyhibs View Post
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    Yes we will as we do with all your concerns


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    Quote Originally Posted by paigntonhibby View Post
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    excellent
    One rule in one country on stripping titles off clubs, another for Oldco. No clubs saying $#@! all, all swept under the carpet. Joke. What is the big secret the clubs SFA etc aren't telling us, have they signed a contract with the devil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smurf View Post
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    No it's not a wind up. They were not liquidated. Big difference.
    There is no difference whatsoever - never mind a "big" difference - if the Huns were liquidated.
    We are talking about whether they should be stripped of titles gained whilst benefitting from financial crime to gain a sporting advantage. The future wellbeing of the club after said crimes is irrelevant.

    Hertz got away with liquidation purely because Salmond pressured Lithuania to accept Budge's measly offer of around £2m instead of selling the stadium for nearer £10m (£22m was Cala agreed price in better market conditions).

    There's plenty other cants choosing to forget the Gorgie crimes without us wanting a Savile buddy up to stick the knife into the Huns on the back of a Celtc campaign.

    $#@! that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EA2007 View Post
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    Is this a wind up?
    Their financial crime far exceeded that of the HunDogs and they got stripped of feck all Scottish Cups so neither will Rangers.
    Personally I think they were as bad as each other.

    However in the eyes of the law I suppose the gunts in a lesser evil way got away with it. What they did and where they are now legally is all above board. Also by the football authorities rules and regulations their administration was dealt with and can be considered done and dusted.

    Morally they're corrupt but we all knew that anyway.

    What rangers/sevco did was legally beyond that with regard to their liquidation and the basis for the old club/new club debate. The 5 way stitch up was probably beyond the rules and regulations of the football authorities but I'm only saying probably because the details of that agreement have been kept secret. However I think it's fair this was only an agreement that saw them fast tracked back into the league. No matter it $#@!ing reeks.

    However neither of these [legal] financial events are at the heart of stripping titles. Forget them, they're a red herring.

    Stripping titles depends on the players contracts being properly registered with the football authorities. Each and every match where there was a player in receipt of an EBT and a side letter should become a void match. The player was ineligible to play. It's that simple.

    Because of the time lapsed and changes to the sevco owners since then awarding those matches to the opposition as a 3-0 win, as would be the norm for recent events, is pointless [excuse the pun]. However the matches and titles won during that period must be void.

    As I've said previously anyone at the football authorities involved in any of this cover up must be barred from any involvement in Scottish Football for life. I suppose I should have added previously anyone involved at any of the the the the rangers be banned too.
    Space to let

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