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    The headbutt cheat.

    Nothing to see here. Trot on...say the SFA regarding a Morton players succesful attempt to earn Darren McGregor a red card. Went down as though he`d been dunted over the napper with a length of 2 x 4, only inches from the referee.

    So, it seems the SFA will go all out to protect an utterly incompetent employee by letting a cheat go unpunished while seeming to be ready to hang McGregor out to dry. It`s not about justice or correcting a wrong. It`s about a corrupt governing body prepared to cover up for a referee`s clear ineptitude.

    We wait and see what happens with the card but i`d be surprised if it was to be rescinded now after todays decision.
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    hope Hanlon recovers for Saturday as could be bare bones in defence if Daz appeal fails as it probably will
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
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    Nothing to see here. Trot on...say the SFA regarding a Morton players succesful attempt to earn Darren McGregor a red card. Went down as though he`d been dunted over the napper with a length of 2 x 4, only inches from the referee.

    So, it seems the SFA will go all out to protect an utterly incompetent employee by letting a cheat go unpunished while seeming to be ready to hang McGregor out to dry. It`s not about justice or correcting a wrong. It`s about a corrupt governing body prepared to cover up for a referee`s clear ineptitude.

    We wait and see what happens with the card but i`d be surprised if it was to be rescinded now after todays decision.
    Looking at a similar post on the Hibs.net the story seems to be a non starter - it's been withdrawn and looks to be a spoof or a troll plant wind up.

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    Thought the laddie McLean done well on Saturday. One or two stray passes but done ok. Gray will be back so Efe can slot back in beside Mclean if Hanlons no fit.


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    Nothing on him getting off on the website Scottish Football Association

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forzahibs View Post
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    Nothing on him getting off on the website Scottish Football Association
    It's been all over Twitter and FB most of the day though where the root story comes from I don't know. It may well be fake news. I usually try and get some sort of official confirmation of these things but I just reacted to this without checking up.

    I hope it is pish and Daz gets his red card rightly rescinded while that cheating prick gets it rammed right up him. I'm sure I saw a link on FB, I'll check up.

    - - - Updated - - -

    There was a link to The Scotsman. The page is no longer there but the link was genuine. It seems the story's been pulled.
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    If it was a spoof story that the Hootsmon published believing it to be true then that only demonstrates yet again how piss poor the 'journalists' are.

    And that's not news to any of us.






    Even Fritz usually gets verification from a reliable source first, and he's not even a journo.








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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Shrink View Post
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    Even Fritz usually gets verification from a reliable source first, and he's not even a journo.
    You're not are you Fritz?
    I can assure you all....l am no hack.

    - - - Updated - - -

    It's becoming farcical this. Boy on Twitter who works for the Scotsman's online sports desk saying the story was posted early by mistake and will be back up sometime after midnight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
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    I can assure you all....l am no hack.

    - - - Updated - - -

    It's becoming farcical this. Boy on Twitter who works for the Scotsman's online sports desk saying the story was posted early by mistake and will be back up sometime after midnight.
    Probably broke an embargo. Tut tut.

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    Seems we were all wrong about the incident.
    Apparently big Daz nutted him right enough. The boys been cleared of diving.
    Even though only Chick Dung and the compliance officer were keen sighted enough to see the incident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Shrink View Post
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    Seems we were all wrong about the incident.
    Apparently big Daz nutted him right enough. The boys been cleared of diving.
    Even though only Chick Dung and the compliance officer were keen sighted enough to see the incident.
    Unlike the St J shenanigans, there is video footage of this incident.

    If the guy doesn't get charged with bringing the game into disrepute at the very least, then the SFA need to be challenged on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greencol View Post
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    Unlike the St J shenanigans, there is video footage of this incident.

    If the guy doesn't get charged with bringing the game into disrepute at the very least, then the SFA need to be challenged on it.
    As far as I'm aware it was the video evidence that was used to clear him.


    Blimey.

    Winning that Cup has certainly put us on the naughty step.

    Presumably, and logically, that means that Daz's appeal is bound to fail, because if the guy wasn't a cowardly cheat then Daz DID hit him and was rightly carded for it.

    I expect the case will now be passed to the Polis who will charge him with assault.

    If it's Govan Polis then there may be other charges - for being on the pitch perhaps.
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    SFA are corrupt to the core.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Shrink View Post
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    As far as I'm aware it was the video evidence that was used to clear him.


    Blimey.

    Winning that Cup has certainly put us on the naughty step.

    Presumably, and logically, that means that Daz's appeal is bound to fail, because if the guy wasn't a cowardly cheat then Daz DID hit him and was rightly carded for it.

    I expect the case will now be passed to the Polis who will charge him with assault.

    If it's Govan Polis then there may be other charges - for being on the pitch perhaps.
    Your naughty step remark isn't far from the reality of it all. Regan was more furious about us winning the cup than the exuberance that followed. He had, after all, promised Dodgy Dave a fairytale ending. We kinda ruined that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smurf View Post
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    SFA are corrupt to the core.
    No question Kenny, but this isn't corruption in the true meaning of the word (unless .......), this is telling people that what they saw, with their own eyes, didn't happen! WTF?

    There could well be a case for legal action against the SFA, but .........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Shrink View Post
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    As far as I'm aware it was the video evidence that was used to clear him.


    Blimey.

    Winning that Cup has certainly put us on the naughty step.

    Presumably, and logically, that means that Daz's appeal is bound to fail, because if the guy wasn't a cowardly cheat then Daz DID hit him and was rightly carded for it.

    I expect the case will now be passed to the Polis who will charge him with assault.

    If it's Govan Polis then there may be other charges - for being on the pitch perhaps.
    Unless both the Compliance Officer and the Referee or Disciplinary Panel both say that having looked at the video evidence, there is insufficient evidence to make a decision either way, so no red card, no diving charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibs1986 View Post
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    Unless both the Compliance Officer and the Referee or Disciplinary Panel both say that having looked at the video evidence, there is insufficient evidence to make a decision either way, so no red card, no diving charge.
    The red card has been given, so to overturn it then there must be sufficient evidence to do so Shirley - because a referees decision is final, unless of course the referee decides he got it wrong...... in which case ...... it was feigning an injury....... I'm dizzy now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Shrink View Post
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    The red card has been given, so to overturn it then there must be sufficient evidence to do so Shirley - because a referees decision is final, unless of course the referee decides he got it wrong...... in which case ...... it was feigning an injury....... I'm dizzy now.
    Fair enough. Maybe the ref's claiming he's looked at it, though, and decided that the incident was less clear cut than he thought at the time. Obviously he would be talking nonsense, because it's entirely clear what happened - I'm just offering a possible official justification for two apparently contradictory decisions.

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    No surprise Lennon, Duffy, his assistant, hibs and Morton have all been Issued notices of complaints, but seeing as they have till next Tuesday to respond and a hearing scheduled for the 20th I take it they will both be in the dug out on Saturday? Also when NL does get banned is it league only or will they ban him for the semi too since theyve put his hearing 2 days before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4MMY View Post
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    No surprise Lennon, Duffy, his assistant, hibs and Morton have all been Issued notices of complaints, but seeing as they have till next Tuesday to respond and a hearing scheduled for the 20th I take it they will both be in the dug out on Saturday? Also when NL does get banned is it league only or will they ban him for the semi too since theyve put his hearing 2 days before?
    The date for the hearing is naughty, winning that cup has really annoyed them more than I imagined. Wait for the outcome? If it's ridiculous, I hope Hibs take legal action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy 'O' Hibee View Post
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    The date for the hearing is naughty, winning that cup has really annoyed them more than I imagined. Wait for the outcome? If it's ridiculous, I hope Hibs take legal action.
    Remember Hibs got that high flying sports lawyer for the cup final stuff and basically he took the piss out of them, ok not them but the 'authorities'.

    Did we not employ the SPFL lawyer?

    I'd expect Hibs to do something similar. Employ the SFA lawyers 😈
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    No surprise at all that Lennon and Duffy have been charged. I can see Lennon getting a long dug-out ban to be honest given his past record.
    I'm more concerned about McGregor missing games. When it says both Hibs and Morton have been charged does that infer that the club is going to be fined as well ?
    The decision not to take an action against Oyenuga is beyond belief. This is the guy who instigated the flare-up and all he gets is a one game ban for a dreadful challenge and a disgraceful feigning of injury in order to get another player sent off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    Remember Hibs got that high flying sports lawyer for the cup final stuff and basically he took the piss out of them, ok not them but the 'authorities'.

    Did we not employ the SPFL lawyer?

    I'd expect Hibs to do something similar. Employ the SFA lawyers ������
    That entered my mind Jack? Not 100% sure we employed him or not? Should not jump to conclusions until after the hearing, Lennon is quite articulate and will not accept false allegations. Timing is poor.

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    Sooo... They haven't charged the morton player for feigning being headbutted when he clearly hadn't been.

    Meanwhile Darren McGregor is about to face the SFA appeal panel claiming he never headbutted the guy.......

    What's the point of Daz even turning up when the SFA have already clearly, and publicly, announced via their own website that they believe the Morton guy was in fact the victim of violence?

    Hopefully Hibs/Darren have a decent lawyer to point out the prejudicial nature of these public statements on the website of THE PEOPLE SITTING IN JUDGEMENT of our case.

    *Wee Lenny should cop a plea bargain for his charges mind you 🤔

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianmc View Post
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    Sooo... They haven't charged the morton player for feigning being headbutted when he clearly hadn't been.

    Meanwhile Darren McGregor is about to face the SFA appeal panel claiming he never headbutted the guy.......

    What's the point of Daz even turning up when the SFA have already clearly, and publicly, announced via their own website that they believe the Morton guy was in fact the victim of violence?

    Hopefully Hibs/Darren have a decent lawyer to point out the prejudicial nature of these public statements on the website of THE PEOPLE SITTING IN JUDGEMENT of our case.

    *Wee Lenny should cop a plea bargain for his charges mind you 🤔
    It's completely mental.

    If you want an outside bet......................... how about.....................

    Daz gets let off too, with the red downgraded to a yellow for squaring up but 'insufficient evidence to deserve a red' ...........

    That would be the SFA mimicking the guid auld Scots Law verdict of 'not proven'


    Meanwhile everyone else involved will get banned from the dugouts for a couple of weeks - Lennon to be banned from the dug-out at Hampden just to really tip him over the edge and both clubs severely censured with a suspended fine or some such $#@!.

    That's so stupid that it's got to be in with a shout.

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    Perhaps everyone involved will get away with it.... Except Mr Lennon of course!

    He'll be sentenced to something truly awful like being tarred and feathered or worse - having to interpret a Derek Ferguson match report into English.
    Scary stuff.

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    I wish Daz had just splattered that snide scrote's nose aw over his fizzer noo.
    Might as well get hung for a sheep and aw that, eh?



    It's not coincidence....it's not karma...it's not negligence...it's not bad luck. It's $#@!in anti Hibs full stop.

    The SFA..... Them $#@!s that hink they're refs.... Them lino's!! argh!!.... aw**** connected.....I HATE YOU ALL. YOU ARE ALL COMPLICIT. A DEN OF DEVIOUS. IT'S BLATANT CHEATING.... WHAT YOU ARE DOING...SO BLATANTLY!!!! FONE THE CROWN!!!!!This season has been the worst i've ever witnessed for this kind of skullduggery ever. It's so in yer face!!....Man! Refs are Masons. Majority of masons are not a fan of the Hibees..at least 7 outa 10 are Scottish so called referees. $#@!S! That's no even counting the masons that are Lodge like. Ahem..(Allothum)

    We know though why it is so. Us Hibees really undersand why it is such, We know the reason. We won the $#@!in cup! And we went MENTAL!!!

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    The headbutt cheat.

    (Didn't mean to post anything - sorry)


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    Meanwhile Darren McGregor is about to face the SFA appeal panel claiming he never headbutted the guy.......

    What's the point of Daz even turning up when the SFA have already clearly, and publicly, announced via their own website that they believe the Morton guy was in fact the victim of violence?


    if I were representing Darren, that is exactly the line of defence I would take. Darren cannot now be given a fair hearing as they have already made their views public. I would then demand that a panel independent of the SPFL be set up up to adjudicate working only on the video evidence. Should that not be the case and they go ahead anyway and sanction Darren, then Hibs must take the SPFL to court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by O'Driscoll View Post
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    Meanwhile Darren McGregor is about to face the SFA appeal panel claiming he never headbutted the guy.......

    What's the point of Daz even turning up when the SFA have already clearly, and publicly, announced via their own website that they believe the Morton guy was in fact the victim of violence?


    if I were representing Darren, that is exactly the line of defence I would take. Darren cannot now be given a fair hearing as they have already made their views public. I would then demand that a panel independent of the SPFL be set up up to adjudicate working only on the video evidence. Should that not be the case and they go ahead anyway and sanction Darren, then Hibs must take the SPFL to court.
    Totally agree, the video evidence is clear, if they punish McGregor and refuse tae punish the cheat for feigning injury despite the absolute cast iron evidence then they are punishing Hibs for some other reason than this incident. I'd be talking tae talking tae the lawyers and I'd let them (SFA) ken about it right away before they go ahead with this farce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenmachine View Post
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    No surprise at all that Lennon and Duffy have been charged. I can see Lennon getting a long dug-out ban to be honest given his past record.
    I'm more concerned about McGregor missing games. When it says both Hibs and Morton have been charged does that infer that the club is going to be fined as well ?
    The decision not to take an action against Oyenuga is beyond belief. This is the guy who instigated the flare-up and all he gets is a one game ban for a dreadful challenge and a disgraceful feigning of injury in order to get another player sent off.

    Is it remotely possible that the ref gave the guy a red to cover both offences - a yellow for the tackle and another yellow for the dive. I know it would be usual in a scenario like that to show a yellow twice and then a red but is that mandatory? If the ref then told the SFA that the red covered both offences then they would have to say that no further action would be taken against Oyenuga.

    Mind you if that was the case then McGregor would not have a case to answer so I suppose I'm talking mince as usual..
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    IF the red card against McGregor is upheld then there must be serious questions asked by Hibs and the media as to their motives. The SFA shysters are corrupt liars. They`ve proven that all to well over the last 5 years in particular. I suspect they`re trying to cover-up for their referee. If they rescind the red and punish Oyenuga for faking an assault....in an incident which happened inches from the referee and he saw clearly....then they`re admitting their employee is either incompetent or a cheat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
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    IF the red card against McGregor is upheld then there must be serious questions asked by Hibs and the media as to their motives. The SFA shysters are corrupt liars. They`ve proven that all to well over the last 5 years in particular. I suspect they`re trying to cover-up for their referee. If they rescind the red and punish Oyenuga for faking an assault....in an incident which happened inches from the referee and he saw clearly....then they`re admitting their employee is either incompetent or a cheat.
    None of it makes sense Fritz.

    They have cleared Oyenuga of faking injury or maybe that should be they weren't absolutely sure he faked it, so no more punishment will be meted out to the coward.

    I wouldn't be at all surprised if they downgrade the red to a yellow for Daz. For 'squaring up'.

    The one who will come out of this worst is Lennon I think.

    Chick Young did his best to put the blame on Lennon on the Saturday Sportsound show, appearing to claim he had 'the knowledge' because he'd watched the video six times. Despite being ridiculed by the rest of the pundits the wee Huntit continued to insist Lennon was the villain of the piece.

    If the stadium was evacuated because fire broke out Lennon would be booked for leaving his technical area.
    In fact he'd probably be red carded and sent to sit in the burning stand.

    The number of refereeing 'errors' that we have had to put up with since daring to win the Cup is quite incredible, although I'm sure there is no connection.

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    None of it makes sense Fritz.

    They have cleared Oyenuga of faking injury or maybe that should be they weren't absolutely sure he faked it, so no more punishment will be meted out to the coward.

    I wouldn't be at all surprised if they downgrade the red to a yellow for Daz. For 'squaring up'.

    The one who will come out of this worst is Lennon I think.

    Chick Young did his best to put the blame on Lennon on the Saturday Sportsound show, appearing to claim he had 'the knowledge' because he'd watched the video six times. Despite being ridiculed by the rest of the pundits the wee Huntit continued to insist Lennon was the villain of the piece.

    If the stadium was evacuated because fire broke out Lennon would be booked for leaving his technical area.
    In fact he'd probably be red carded and sent to sit in the burning stand.

    The number of refereeing 'errors' that we have had to put up with since daring to win the Cup is quite incredible, although I'm sure there is no connection.
    This doesn`t surprise me. The Duffman is one of his 'pals'.
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    This doesn`t surprise me. The Duffman is one of his 'pals'.
    Indeed, the fawning slavering wee gobshite has been touting the White Mekon for the Scotland gig for the last few months.
    I don't know how that gibbering buffoon continues to get airtime. He makes as much sense as Cathroda, and his inane stuttering pronouncements never fail to either irritate or just bore me.

    The ridiculous pandering to his pretence of being a St Midden supporter has at least stopped with his 'colleagues' openly referring to his Hunnishness.

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    That's 3 out of 4 red cards we've recieved this season been reduced too yellows

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4MMY View Post
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    That's 3 out of 4 red cards we've recieved this season been reduced too yellows
    2 by the same ref; Nick Walsh. Useless ****.
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    It's completely mental.

    If you want an outside bet......................... how about.....................

    Daz gets let off too, with the red downgraded to a yellow for squaring up but 'insufficient evidence to deserve a red' ...........

    That would be the SFA mimicking the guid auld Scots Law verdict of 'not proven'


    Meanwhile everyone else involved will get banned from the dugouts for a couple of weeks - Lennon to be banned from the dug-out at Hampden just to really tip him over the edge and both clubs severely censured with a suspended fine or some such $#@!.

    That's so stupid that it's got to be in with a shout.
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    .....but Oyeguna didn`t fake an assault.

    So who exactly do the SFA think clattered him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
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    .....but Oyeguna didn`t fake an assault.

    So who exactly do the SFA think clattered him?
    Maybe he slipped

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    Strange one that shouting about incidents is going to get lennon and duffy into more trouble that actually doing them.

    Glad Darren got off but like everyone I cant understand how everyone can be innocent.

    Time to scrap the cases againts the managers and call it a day on this one.

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    It looked more like he had taken a snipers bullet rather than slippage
    To be fair none of us know just how slippy it was out there . The beaks say he never took a dive so it must be the case ??

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    A yellow is still too much in my opinion. Darren didn'd do much wrong (the reaction was maybe worth a talking to, but the other guy did halve him!) yet he is still being penalised albeit with a yellow card. That won't hurt us much now, but if he gets suspended for a crucial game towards the end of the season then it will be because of this undeserved yellow - IMO of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrenSQH View Post
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    Strange one that shouting about incidents is going to get lennon and duffy into more trouble that actually doing them.

    Glad Darren got off but like everyone I cant understand how everyone can be innocent.

    Time to scrap the cases againts the managers and call it a day on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jadamson2704 View Post
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    A yellow is still too much in my opinion. Darren didn'd do much wrong (the reaction was maybe worth a talking to, but the other guy did halve him!) yet he is still being penalised albeit with a yellow card. That won't hurt us much now, but if he gets suspended for a crucial game towards the end of the season then it will be because of this undeserved yellow - IMO of course.
    My thoughts too.

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    Maybe he slipped
    Plausible, if he hadn't went down holding his face.
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    Plausible, if he hadn't went down holding his face.

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    The guy faked injury. It really is as simple as that.

    It should not be left alone until the Morton player is censured in some manner for his pathetic behaviour in getting a fellow professional sent off.




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