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    Board have funked up big time I know as a club we have to be realistic regarding finance but there must a few bob came through the door this year.
    They have taken a huge risk not getting players in

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    $#@!in hell, man. Can we seriously contrive to $#@! this up this year?


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    Can we really blame the board ? That squad should be able to perform much better, it's the Championship ffs. Lennon needs to take some of the flak for this.
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    FFS why didn't he drop SJM and bring in Martin 2 0 against that $#@!e!!
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    United will have to fancy there chances of overtaking us now. Win there game in hand and it's down to 4 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egb_hibs View Post
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    You would think it would be impossible for Hibs to be complacent wouldn't you? Dear oh dear, let's hope we don't regret it.
    Considering what could happen if we dont go up you'd think the club would have brought in on loan a couple of players in January who could have made it certain. Makes you wonder what went through their heads.

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    $#@!ing right you can blame the board our shot to goal ratio was horrendous last year .
    Has it been rectified ? I don't get our squad should be good enough well we are obviously not is good as some folk think we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperTortolano View Post
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    United will have to fancy there chances of overtaking us now. Win there game in hand and it's down to 4 points.
    Thank $#@! they are $#@!e.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmanandy View Post
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    Shocking, Lennon had a secret dig at the board, I see why.
    Aye, he's good at that - distancing himself from any accountability - need to look at the facts - cup games (where players gain their own desire) excepted, the man's a complete dud....

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    I hope we're saving a good performance for Ayr United Saturday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurbankHibee View Post
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    Can we really blame the board ? That squad should be able to perform much better, it's the Championship ffs. Lennon needs to take some of the flak for this.
    100% blame the board. Let's not delude ourselves that this squad is anything special. Finished third last year with Stokes and Henderson. Up until Commoms came in we were struggling. Those are the facts. Petrie and his cronies have always been this way. Him, Leeanne and all the other yes men should GTF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Family View Post
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    Thank $#@! they are $#@!e.
    Yet, they'll still turn us over next Friday. Our players have chucked it, we've picked up 3 points out of 12 in games against Ayr, Raith, Dunfermline and St Mirren.

    We've handed it to Utd on a plate if they want it.

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    Whats this 'secret dig'?

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    I hope we're saving a good performance for Ayr United Saturday!
    Right now I'm imagining very grim scenarios indeed. While they are and will always be legend, this team needs a complete rethink whether we go up or remain down. There are a bunch of good parts but not a goalscoring whole and that has been so for three years.

    We have a good goal scorer in Cummings but not the team to make use of him. We need a different kind of striker, or a strike partner who can help him score while scoring themselves, or a different kind of midfield. The rest of our strikers aren't good enough. Our midfielders are simply not good enough consistently enough, and that includes super J - it needs new blood. We also need players who can play a whole season without a calamitous drop in form. When was the last time Hibs did that?

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    Yet, they'll still turn us over next Friday. Our players have chucked it, we've picked up 3 points out of 12 in games against Ayr, Raith, Dunfermline and St Mirren.

    We've handed it to Utd on a plate if they want it.
    NL identified the positions we needed to strengthen and he gave the board the players to improve us, it didn't happen due to the board not securing these deals its $#@!ing de ja veu with this, he isn't the first manager to be frustrated with our board not securing deals.
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    100% blame the board. Let's not delude ourselves that this squad is anything special. Finished third last year with Stokes and Henderson. Up until Commoms came in we were struggling. Those are the facts. Petrie and his cronies have always been this way. Him, Leeanne and all the other yes men should GTF.
    Lennon should shoulder a lot of the blame here. The squad may not be special and it doesn't have to be special, it just needs to not lose against the $#@!e in this league and he can't manage that !
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurbankHibee View Post
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    Lennon should shoulder a lot of the blame here. The squad may not be special and it doesn't have to be special, it just needs to not lose against the $#@!e in this league and he can't manage that !
    You ever thought or squad just isn't as superior to other teams in this league I mean I know he's a tryer but Boyle struggled for a game at Dundee as did graham at ross county but deemed good enough for us .

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    The transfer window in January was a huge missed opportunity. We needed shot in the arm signings. I think we've been average all season. We were really struggling before we signed Commons and he himself pulled us out the $#@! a few times. There's been far too much complacency from too many thinking this league is already won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jock3 View Post
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    I hope we're saving a good performance for Ayr United Saturday!
    should put out a youth team, drop the lot of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurbankHibee View Post
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    Lennon should shoulder a lot of the blame here. The squad may not be special and it doesn't have to be special, it just needs to not lose against the $#@!e in this league and he can't manage that !
    Agreed - he needs to stop hiding, blaming everyone else and stand up - his record is dire in a pi** poor league - he's a complete dud...

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    Commons comes in as were playing $#@!e, does a great job in digging us out a hole for a few games, he then leaves and back to playing $#@!e, the warning signs where there and the board didn't back the manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurbankHibee View Post
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    Lennon should shoulder a lot of the blame here. The squad may not be special and it doesn't have to be special, it just needs to not lose against the $#@!e in this league and he can't manage that !
    It was the same last season under Stubbs. Players can raise there game and play when they want to, but then chuck it the other games. Again it comes down to having a thread bare squad. The players know they won't be dropped as we have no one else to replace them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egb_hibs View Post
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    Right now I'm imagining very grim scenarios indeed. While they are and will always be legend, this team needs a complete rethink whether we go up or remain down. There are a bunch of good parts but not a goalscoring whole and that has been so for three years.

    We have a good goal scorer in Cummings but not the team to make use of him. We need a different kind of striker, or a strike partner who can help him score while scoring themselves, or a different kind of midfield. The rest of our strikers aren't good enough. Our midfielders are simply not good enough consistently enough, and that includes super J - it needs new blood. We also need players who can play a whole season without a calamitous drop in form. When was the last time Hibs did that?
    You'd be far quicker saying who is worth keeping. Forget the cup runs when they raise their game and try to consider their normal weekly league performances. I'm sick of watching the same dross season after season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmanandy View Post
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    Commons comes in as were playing $#@!e, does a great job in digging us out a hole for a few games, he then leaves and back to playing $#@!e, the warning signs where there and the board didn't back the manager.
    Agreed. The board had the chance to prove how serious we were when we wanted to improve the squad, we the fans done our part by coffins up our hard earned money and they have done $#@! all!!
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    Agreed - he needs to stop hiding, blaming everyone else and stand up - his record is dire in a pi** poor league - he's a complete dud...
    We're pretty much where we were last year though, and I don't buy that the league is worse just cos sevco aren't in it; if anything there are less easy fixtures this year. The problem is the one Lennon identified when he come in but a combination of his summer jaunts and whatever went wrong in January has failed to address:

    This team does not have a set of players that in combination produce sufficient goals.

    Our best goal scoring period remains when Cummings was dropped. But how can we keep him dropped when he's our only decent fecking striker? Any element tweaked $#@!s something else up: we don't have a group that can combine to score.

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    We are seeing an exact replica of what happened last season at this time. We went through a very bad run of results around about the time we beat Hearts over two matches in the Scottish Cup. We never recovered from it last year and our only decent performances were saved for cup matches. I honestly believe the focus on winning the league to the detriment of anything else is badly affected when the cup comes around. Now we don't just have the league championship to focus on but also the Scottish Cup. That's just a theory of mine though...the reality is that this Hibs team is just not as good as many fans and media seem to think it is. Our home form in particular this season has been underwhelming. We always seem to go on a bad run though at this time of year. I was worried about tonight as we were playing a team fighting for their lives on their own turf and they had a very good result last Saturday to boost their confidence.

    The Scottish Cup and every other cup this season is way, way down the list of priorities. Winning the league is absolutely essential this season. Nothing else. I thought with the squad we had we would win it by about 5 or 6 points and I still think that is likely, however we have got to get our collective arses into gear soon and start winning again. Our goals for record outside of Jason Cummings is an absolute disgrace in this league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by egb_hibs View Post
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    We're pretty much where we were last year though, and I don't buy that the league is worse just cos sevco aren't in it; if anything there are less easy fixtures this year. The problem is the one Lennon identified when he come in but a combination of his summer jaunts and whatever went wrong in January has failed to address:

    This team does not have a set of players that in combination produce sufficient goals.

    Our best goal scoring period remains when Cummings was dropped. But how can we keep him dropped when he's our only decent fecking striker? Any element tweaked $#@!s something else up: we don't have a group that can combine to score.
    Yes, but we brought him in to improve, paying a pretty packet for a manager with a very indifferent track record. He does not inspire me in any way - coaching, man management, player selection, player buying....we have been dire all season, he's costing us a fortune and we're still sh*te...

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    Right. Really looking like win or bust at tannadice now. A large part of me thinks it would be for the best if we lose to Ayr on Saturday although of course I'll forget all that the minute kickoff on Saturday comes.

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    I don't think Lennon is up to the job. I can't see him taking us up.

    If we lose at Tannadice, I'd be tempted to get rid. All well when people say it would be a disruption, but look at what we are putting out just now. We hardly score goals and we rarely win these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egb_hibs View Post
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    Right. Really looking like win or bust at tannadice now. A large part of me thinks it would be for the best if we lose to Ayr on Saturday although of course I'll forget all that the minute kickoff on Saturday comes.
    No way.

    Losing on Saturday would kill our confidence heading into Tannadice.

    We will win on Saturday and we will win next Friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smurf View Post
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    No way.

    Losing on Saturday would kill our confidence heading into Tannadice.

    We will win on Saturday and we will win next Friday.
    Hope your right mate just can't see us winning up there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve20 View Post
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    I don't think Lennon is up to the job. I can't see him taking us up.

    If we lose at Tannadice, I'd be tempted to get rid. All well when people say it would be a disruption, but look at what we are putting out just now. We hardly score goals and we rarely win these days.
    Maybe if our board backed him to strengthen in positions that were needed we wouldn't be having this conversation.

    I do agree some of his team's and formations have been brutal, apart from the cup games and United at ER, crucial players like Hanlon, McGeough, and now Fonts not being fit have cost us big time!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smurf View Post
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    No way.

    Losing on Saturday would kill our confidence heading into Tannadice.

    We will win on Saturday and we will win next Friday.
    Like your optimism but no idea what its based on.

    We've got too many runners and not enough players who can open up a defence by passing the ball. ABC stuff. And nobody apart from Jason who has any idea of how to put the ball in the net.

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    Really disappointing result. I think we are going to just fall over the line as regards the league. I 100% blame our predicament on our lack of recruitments in January. Paul Hanlon is a necessity in our defence and the midfield have to score more.

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    If we didn't know already, Hanlon & McGeough are massive losses to this team. Humphrey is a loss to a lesser extent (mainly as he hasn't played enough). Without McGeough our midfield struggle to control the tempo of a game and therefore open up the opposition to create good chances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smurf View Post
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    No way.

    Losing on Saturday would kill our confidence heading into Tannadice.

    We will win on Saturday and we will win next Friday.
    Fine, but then we'll draw a couple and lose one and be back where we started. We've won just over half our League games and the % is in decline. Being "better" than the rest is something you need to demonstrate week in week out not just when you can be arsed.

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    Plenty knee jerk reactions here. Last week Lennon was a genius, tonight he isnt up to the job. He isnt sending them out to give half hearted performances. Bartley and Mcginn nothing like they played last wed.

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    We've gone from a team under Stubbs who created loads of chances but couldn't take enough to a stuffy side who create very little and have recently started to leak goals.

    If Cummings doesn't score more often than not Hibs dont win.

    There are too many $#@!e players in that squad...the kind that give a performance once in every half a dozen outings. We should have strengthened in January to correct the dreadful Summer window.

    The manager's tactics in games like tonights escape me..our league form is pony.

    Attitude of players must be questioned...why are they such an enigma...I know they are not machines but they should be able to show a greater consistency of performance than they do.

    Feel sorry for those that went thru - there was precious little to enjoy tonight...absolutely disgraceful.

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    Utterly infuriating and such an unnecessary run of results. We should be well clear by now and thinking about wrapping this $#@! league up once and for all. Instead, we've got a slog on our hands. We have to pray we don't lose at Tannadice or we're in deep trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Central_Hibee View Post
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    Plenty knee jerk reactions here. Last week Lennon was a genius, tonight he isnt up to the job. He isnt sending them out to give half hearted performances. Bartley and Mcginn nothing like they played last wed.
    3 points out of 12 isn't a knee jerk reaction mate I think people have a right to be a tad concerned.

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    I hope we're saving a good performance for Ayr United Saturday!
    Hope so. The worst result would be a draw. A fixture pile up while the rest of the league is getting tight and ready for a fight would be a killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Central_Hibee View Post
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    Plenty knee jerk reactions here. Last week Lennon was a genius, tonight he isnt up to the job. He isnt sending them out to give half hearted performances. Bartley and Mcginn nothing like they played last wed.
    Nope - in my opinion he's been a dud all season.

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    What a scunner the last few league games have been, results and equally as worrying, performance wise. Frustrating, infuriating but almost inevitable unfortunately.

    The only good things are that we are 7 points clear and maybe this is our bad run out the way? I am desperately trying to stay positive, avoid defeat against DU or even better, win, and we remain in a healthy position.

    For or all our misgivings, we are THE best team in the league, that's why we are top, we just need a wee bit more belief and a couple of our injured key players back.

    Capitulation now is unthinkable and I don't think we will however it's time to walk the walk Hibs. However difficult, keep the faith fellow Hibees.

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    After some time out I have concluded that I'm bloody glad we are at tannadice next. That is precisely the fixture we need to snap the players out of this slump. Home to Morton would not have been.

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    We're really lacking leadership at the moment. Its completely non existant when Holt isnt on the pitch. Hanlon a loss in this department as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Central_Hibee View Post
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    We're really lacking leadership at the moment. Its completely non existant when Holt isnt on the pitch. Hanlon a loss in this department as well.
    I agree, Fyvie's going awol is a real problem in this regard. He was vying with Darren Mc for my player of the season until recently but he has disappeared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egb_hibs View Post
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    I agree, Fyvie's going awol is a real problem in this regard. He was vying with Darren Mc for my player of the season until recently but he has disappeared.
    Its really strange the way his form has tailed off. Although wasnt helped tonight with Bartleys inclusion. Theyve lost all sense of urgency, strength and quite possibly their complete confidence. Shinne and boyle dont have the strength now we're in to the business end battles either. With Humphry and Mcgeouch injured, we dont really have any options to change things very much which must be concerning NL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egb_hibs View Post
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    I agree, Fyvie's going awol is a real problem in this regard. He was vying with Darren Mc for my player of the season until recently but he has disappeared.
    Good point. Fyvie has been really consistent up until his injury but not impressed since he got back in. Same can be said for SJM.
    We badly need Dylan, our ONLY play maker, back in ASAP.

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    How about we go and beg the smellies for Commons or Henderson for another emergency loan. Actually pretty pathetic that a club our size with crowds of 14,000 have to rely on emergency loan deals.


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