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    Pilton in the 70s?

    Is the Herald talking $#@!e here?

    I've never heard of sectarian violence being an issue,more just the surrounding estates knocking fcuk out each other

    Politics of tagging a talking point on estate where violence rules (From Herald Scotland)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PILTONSTANY View Post
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    Is the Herald talking $#@!e here?

    I've never heard of sectarian violence being an issue,more just the surrounding estates knocking fcuk out each other

    Politics of tagging a talking point on estate where violence rules (From Herald Scotland)
    Loada $#@!e. There was a lot of IRA graffiti (sorry Ma) but that was about it. Radges just fought radges. Usual $#@!e,ken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefy View Post
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    Loada $#@!e. There was a lot of IRA graffiti (sorry Ma) but that was about it. Radges just fought radges. Usual $#@!e,ken?
    Aye,having a chat aboot where the name came from on Twitter,seems Hosey Snr was involved in the name creation stakes.

    It's mental how it's changed,they all get on with each other these days,social media to blame apparently
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    Being muirhouse boy myself I'm grateful for Pilton being what it was
    Made us feel quite snobbish 😜

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    There is a book out there called 'Pilton Keelie' by James Meikle. If you google young pilton derry it takes you to it and you can read it. Well kent names are in it. RIP GS.

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    I remember in the 70's at my school they used to talk about the Pilton Derry. Seemed to be a lot about bullying, poverty and deprived council estates rather than any sectarianism. 'Square Goes' was a request for a fight. You comin' wide? was another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PILTONSTANY View Post
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    Is the Herald talking $#@!e here?

    I've never heard of sectarian violence being an issue,more just the surrounding estates knocking fcuk out each other

    Politics of tagging a talking point on estate where violence rules (From Herald Scotland)
    That was printed 12 years ago, not that it makes it any less $#@!e of course. As I recall, when someone was pulling you up they asked where you were from not what religion you were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beefy View Post
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    There is a book out there called 'Pilton Keelie' by James Meikle. If you google young pilton derry it takes you to it and you can read it. Well kent names are in it. RIP GS.
    That's how i found the Herald thing,i'll take a nose at the book

    Also found this,a bit grim but true

    http://www.rc21.org/conferences/berl...4-1-Carlin.pdf
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    Done aw that $#@!e whem ah wis wee. it wisnae excluive tae north embra.
    $#@! right off or if yi fancy a square go PM me.

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    Done aw that $#@!e whem ah wis wee. it wisnae excluive tae north embra.
    $#@! right off or if yi fancy a square go PM me.

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    Fukin $#@!in iy eh?

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    $#@! right off or if yi fancy a square go PM me.

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    Loada crap. I lived in West Pilton from 1968-1979 and there was no sectarian nonsense so far as I can remember. I have no idea where the name started but I don't even know if there was ever many gang fights. I was at primary..so 1975 or before when people were saying that the YPD weren't running as a gang because they joined with guys from other nearby estates to create a team called "the mob"...again I never heard of any gang fights. That's not to say there was never trouble, but I think the idea of gangs was just a bit copy cat from what was heard about Glasgow.

    My next door neighbours, and best friends at the time were RC (Fitzharrises) and went to St Davids, but the reality was that there was at least 8 non denominational schools, and one RC school in the surrounding areas (primaries) 2 non denom High schools and RCs either went to them or crossed the city to St Augustines. I am not saying no one at all was bigoted/sectarian...just I never heard of any, we were too busy surviving poor wages and school dinners. By the way we also looked down on Muirhouse lol...actually Pennywell didn't seem so bad and Royston was reckoned a step up. Funnily enough we all thought Drylaw was worse, but didn't go up that way much.

    I didn't even know what Derry meant at the time, and I remember there was a large spray painting on a wall saying clockwork derry...so I suppose the guys must also have indulged in clockwork orange behaviour


    Would be good to hear from people 5-10 year older than me...that be late 50's to mid 60's to hear their perspectives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davy View Post
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    Loada crap. I lived in West Pilton from 1968-1979 and there was no sectarian nonsense so far as I can remember. I have no idea where the name started but I don't even know if there was ever many gang fights. I was at primary..so 17#975 or before when people were saying that the YPD weren't running as a gang because they joined with guys from other nearby estates to create a team called "the mob"...agaisn I never heard of any gang fights. That's not to say there was never trouble, but Ia think the idea of gangs was just a bit copy cat from what was heard about Glasgow.

    My next door neighbours, and best friends at the time were RC (Fitzharrises) and went to St Davids, but the reality was that there was at least 8 non denominational schools, and one RC school in the surrounding areas (primaries) 2 non denom High schools and RCs either went to them or crossed the city to St Augustines. I am not saying no one at all was bigoted/sectarian...just I never heard of any, we were too busy surviving poor wages and school dinners. By the way we also looked down on Muirhouse lol...actually Pennywell didn't seem so bad and Royston was reckoned a step up. Funnily enough we all thought Drylaw was worse, but didn't go up that way much.

    I didn't even know what Derry meant at the time, and I remember there was a large spray painting on a wall saying clockwork derry...so I suppose the guys must also have indulged in clockwork orange behaviour


    Would be good to hear from people 5-10 year older than me...that be late 50's to mid 60's to hear their perspectives.
    I was going to add to your comments Davy but misread your last sentence and thought you meant five to ten years younger 😀
    I'm not sure why Derry was used either but I'm sure that the oldest and so called infamous gang was the ymd young mental drylaw and I reckon that the piltoners while trying to be original but still trying to use the same idea and called themselves ypd that derry was probably the coolest hardest sounding d word they could come up with
    Religion and sectarianism was never an issue in that side of Edinburgh in the 70s 80s or 90s the only time anyone went near a church was for a pour oot at someone's wedding 😀

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbybilly View Post
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    Done aw that $#@!e whem ah wis wee. it wisnae excluive tae north embra.
    $#@! right off or if yi fancy a square go PM me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davy View Post
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    Loada crap. I lived in West Pilton from 1968-1979 and there was no sectarian nonsense so far as I can remember. I have no idea where the name started but I don't even know if there was ever many gang fights. I was at primary..so 1975 or before when people were saying that the YPD weren't running as a gang because they joined with guys from other nearby estates to create a team called "the mob"...again I never heard of any gang fights. That's not to say there was never trouble, but I think the idea of gangs was just a bit copy cat from what was heard about Glasgow.

    My next door neighbours, and best friends at the time were RC (Fitzharrises) and went to St Davids, but the reality was that there was at least 8 non denominational schools, and one RC school in the surrounding areas (primaries) 2 non denom High schools and RCs either went to them or crossed the city to St Augustines. I am not saying no one at all was bigoted/sectarian...just I never heard of any, we were too busy surviving poor wages and school dinners. By the way we also looked down on Muirhouse lol...actually Pennywell didn't seem so bad and Royston was reckoned a step up. Funnily enough we all thought Drylaw was worse, but didn't go up that way much.

    I didn't even know what Derry meant at the time, and I remember there was a large spray painting on a wall saying clockwork derry...so I suppose the guys must also have indulged in clockwork orange behaviour


    Would be good to hear from people 5-10 year older than me...that be late 50's to mid 60's to hear their perspectives.
    The guy in that book I mentioned above was in a gang that copied the look in that film.

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    [QUOTE=beefy;1512822]The guy in that book I mentioned above was in a gang that copied the look in that
    Several piltoners tried to beef
    But ended up looking mare like Charlie chaplain 😝

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    The guy in that book I mentioned above was in a gang that copied the look in that
    Several piltoners tried to beef
    But ended up looking mare like Charlie chaplain 😝
    That's 2 digs you've had at Piltoners on this thread Gaz.

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    [QUOTE=beefy;1512828]
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    That's 2 digs you've had at Piltoners on this thread Gaz.

    I wouldnae go doon Ferry Road Drive anytime soon if I wiz you. Plunged!
    Haha its my duty wrong side of Pennywell Road
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    Don't know about gangs created along sectarian lines, but going to a Catholic school from West Granton and having to walk through Pilton was always a problem with the proddies. Since we were primary school kids it probably was simply one school against another or just being different. West Granton had a sectarian vibe in the 70s, a lot of young Catholic guys, but like has been said it was more to do with graffitti. Hibs/IRA was a real connection at that time and there was a mob from Muirhouse that all seemed to be huns. Short lived as it was.

    I'd say drugs ended the last of the gang culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vini1875 View Post
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    Don't know about gangs created along sectarian lines, but going to a Catholic school from West Granton and having to walk through Pilton was always a problem with the proddies. Since we were primary school kids it probably was simply one school against another or just being different. West Granton had a sectarian vibe in the 70s, a lot of young Catholic guys, but like has been said it was more to do with graffitti. Hibs/IRA was a real connection at that timeand there was a mob from Muirhouse that all seemed to be huns. Short lived as it was.


    Did get chased occassionaly on route to Pirniehall via craigmuir...butwasn't a big problem back then, so yeh probably just a school thing. I do believe there was a few guys who termed theirselves as pennywell provos in the 80's...dunno if they were ever a gang though

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