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    Quote Originally Posted by Since1875Hibs View Post
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    Interesting and useful, thanks for posting.Based on the above, how can they legally fine people?
    By using the car park the driver is deemed to have agreed a contract with the provider. By over staying the driver has broken that contract.

    It's not a fine, it's an invoice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since1875Hibs View Post
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    Interesting and useful, thanks for posting.Based on the above, how can they legally fine people?
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    By using the car park the driver is deemed to have agreed a contract with the provider. By over staying the driver has broken that contract.

    It's not a fine, it's an invoice.
    Plus: It's a scattergun approach. Bang out 10 tickets and one or two of them might pay up without questioning it as it looks legit. Imagine someone really old and/or not savvy about these things getting a ticket, The likelihood is they will pay up. That's how these vermin make their money.
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    I got one from England Im choosing to ignore. But there is a couple of companies who do pursue through courts. The one Im ignoring is dodgy to say the least though. East Midland airport and not even in the car park but on double yellow within the airport area, which it says on a website I looked at they have no jurisdiction over..they also require me to say who was driving in order to take me to court. There is two airports though that they do cover the airports in total (Gatwick I think is one), so as they do the work for the council there, then the council can pursue. Parking eye is one who pursues a lot but there is plenty info on the net how to fight back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davy View Post
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    I got one from England Im choosing to ignore. But there is a couple of companies who do pursue through courts. The one Im ignoring is dodgy to say the least though. East Midland airport and not even in the car park but on double yellow within the airport area, which it says on a website I looked at they have no jurisdiction over..they also require me to say who was driving in order to take me to court. There is two airports though that they do cover the airports in total (Gatwick I think is one), so as they do the work for the council there, then the council can pursue. Parking eye is one who pursues a lot but there is plenty info on the net how to fight back.

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    They can pursue all they like if they issued the "ticket" in Scotland but short of turning up to your door with baseball bats there is no way they can collect unless you volunteer to pay them. Your situ is different in that the ticket was allocated in England where it is legal to pursue for pmt.
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    Got a letter this morning threatening court action, never had that before. Is that the last i'll hear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westside Green View Post
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    Got a letter this morning threatening court action, never had that before. Is that the last i'll hear?
    Might not be the last you hear - but continue to ignore anyway.

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    Parking Ticket - TPS

    I'm pretty sure the law states that fines can't be issued for parking on private property. I'll try and check

    EDIT: Millions of parking tickets ILLEGAL - how to get yours cancelled - Mirror Online


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bofahibee View Post
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    I'm pretty sure the law states that fines can't be issued for parking on private property. I'll try and check EDIT: Millions of parking tickets ILLEGAL - how to get yours cancelled - Mirror OnlineSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    That's England though. I wouldn't respond to any sort of notification you get, just ignore it.They eventually go away.

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    A FINE can only be issued by the police or local authorities.

    These things we're talking about here are invoices issued by private companies. Although they often do them so that they look like official fines.
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    Just received one of these for parking in Tesco car park in Leith. Will be getting deefied


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    This mob are certainly the most persistent i've encountered. I'm getting two letters per week from them, the latest offering me 3 monthly instalments to avoid court action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westside Green View Post
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    This mob are certainly the most persistent i've encountered. I'm getting two letters per week from them, the latest offering me 3 monthly instalments to avoid court action.
    On the bright side, all that extra mail probably makes you feel more popular
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dub View Post
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    On the bright side, all that extra mail probably makes you feel more popular

    Pity the poor postie........ mind you I'm expecting a number of cards next Tuesday.


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    Pity the poor postie........ mind you I'm expecting a number of cards next Tuesday.

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    We got a few a couple of years ago from some company, that obviously got bumped. We then got some from a "lawyer's office". I then noticed both the parking company and the lawyers had the same address in some industrial estate. Pissed myself laughing before obviously bumping that too

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    Now got a debt collector sending me letters threatening court action. When do they eventually give up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westside Green View Post
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    Now got a debt collector sending me letters threatening court action. When do they eventually give up?
    Write 'return to sender' on the front of the letter and bump it back into the postbox everytime.

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    https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news...articleisfree/

    Although tbf she did get 200 tickets. That's just taking the piss. Stupid lassie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wannabehibee View Post
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    https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news...articleisfree/

    Although tbf she did get 200 tickets. That's just taking the piss. Stupid lassie.
    It seems these parking invoices are legally enforceable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wannabehibee View Post
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    https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news...articleisfree/

    Although tbf she did get 200 tickets. That's just taking the piss. Stupid lassie.

    She parked in an area where a permit was required, at £40 a week. Different from the parking in Supermarket car park and staying too long scenario.
    Ever play this game chief?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westside Green View Post
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    It seems these parking invoices are legally enforceable.
    Not really.

    It's never been disputed that a valid charge should be paid, it's accepted that the driver of the vehicle is entering into a contract when parking in these places.

    For the vast majority that will mean a one off time these charlatans will come for you.

    This woman was, as above, taking the piss ignoring what I'm assuming is an arrangement where the owners of a block of flats have brought these people in to protect their own parking spaces. I'd say that by living there she is bound by majority rule.

    The 'argument' we are having is that if these companies don't know who the driver is they cannot establish who the contract is with. The owner of the vehicle is under no obligation to tell them, or communicate with them in any way.

    In this case it would be very simple for the company to establish who the contract was with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    Not really.It's never been disputed that a valid charge should be paid, it's accepted that the driver of the vehicle is entering into a contract when parking in these places.For the vast majority that will mean a one off time these charlatans will come for you.This woman was, as above, taking the piss ignoring what I'm assuming is an arrangement where the owners of a block of flats have brought these people in to protect their own parking spaces. I'd say that by living there she is bound by majority rule.The 'argument' we are having is that if these companies don't know who the driver is they cannot establish who the contract is with. The owner of the vehicle is under no obligation to tell them, or communicate with them in any way.In this case it would be very simple for the company to establish who the contract was with.
    What Jack said. Although i don't believe she actually lived there, it was her mother but she's obviously entered into communication with the parking firm and given them a basic GTF. She deserves everything she gets IMO.

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    So over the last year my mrs has racked up about 20 tickets for the car park near her work. she has just ignored each letter but recently they sent a combined one for all the tickets with a bill of around 3 grand and threatened court action. should this still continue to be ignored?

    they dont even have her correct address on the letters too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrenSQH View Post
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    So over the last year my mrs has racked up about 20 tickets for the car park near her work. she has just ignored each letter but recently they sent a combined one for all the tickets with a bill of around 3 grand and threatened court action. should this still continue to be ignored? they dont even have her correct address on the letters too. Cheers
    Ooft!!! I think individual tickets here and there are worth ignoring - not so sure about these as she's continued to park there and get more tickets. Has she entered into any correspondence with them at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wannabehibee View Post
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    Ooft!!! I think individual tickets here and there are worth ignoring - not so sure about these as she's continued to park there and get more tickets. Has she entered into any correspondence with them at all?
    Nothing at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrenSQH View Post
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    Nothing at all.
    If it was me, I'd be seeking legal advice. The bint in Dundee isn't the only person in Scotland that's been done for this - there was a case a few years back where some guy continually parked in a car park and had thousands of pounds worth of fines. He got done for it. Heres the link.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-35772704
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrenSQH View Post
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    Nothing at all.
    To be fair you've been taking the piss. However you've done the right thing not corresponding with them.

    The bottom line is that they only have a contract with the driver. The owner is under no obligation to tell them who that is.

    With so many tickets though they could well have sent someone out with a camera to specify catch the driver.

    The consequences are obvious.
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    I got one and several reminders and final notices from a firm in England, they tried to fine me for parking on double yellows in East Midland airport...but their contract was for the car parks and not the main roads so I ignored. Had it been Gatwick, then they do have the council contract for the inroads as well and they could have enforced it. Wannabe is correct though that firms are fighting back...mainly in England for now. Certainly do not reply, you can be taken to court Judges open the door for even higher parking fines after Barry Beavis case | Daily Mail Online

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wannabehibee View Post
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    To pay these charges they'll need to join the many others quitting the NHS to become locums earning much much more hammering the NHS in the process with a double whammy....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smurf View Post
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    To pay these charges they'll need to join the many others quitting the NHS to become locums earning much much more hammering the NHS in the process with a double whammy....
    Or maybe should have paid them in the first place?

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    Or maybe should have paid them in the first place?
    I think NHS staff should get free parking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smurf View Post
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    I think NHS staff should get free parking!
    So do I but unfortunately for staff, patients and visitors Ninewells Hospital car park is currently owned by a private company and that's the charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wannabehibee View Post
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    So do I but unfortunately for staff, patients and visitors Ninewells Hospital car park is currently owned by a private company and that's the charges.
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    No like Kenny to politicize anything he can get his wee blue hands on
    Never!

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    No like Kenny to politicize anything he can get his wee blue hands on
    If he wants to play that game he should have a look at who introduced those charges in the first place!!

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    If he wants to play that game he should have a look at who introduced those charges in the first place!!
    I've never fell into the trap that the political party I support or supported can do no wrong.

    I leave that to the SNP cult mentality.... 😉

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smurf View Post
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    I've never fell into the trap that the political party I support or supported can do no wrong.

    I leave that to the SNP cult mentality.... 😉
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    The missus received a parking ticket in the summer from the company that manages the parking at Meadowbank Retail Park. We've been dingy-ing the penalty notices up until now, but the latest one is threatening court action! The twist part is it was actually me that was driving the day in question.

    As far as I'm aware the advice previously (from Martin Lewis websites etc) was to ignore these notices and not engage in any contact with these companies, and eventually they would stop. Seems to have been a change in attitude recently though with some of these companies following through with their threats. Probably just going to continue throwing them a deafy and see what happens?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibee Kev View Post
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    The missus received a parking ticket in the summer from the company that manages the parking at Meadowbank Retail Park. We've been dingy-ing the penalty notices up until now, but the latest one is threatening court action! The twist part is it was actually me that was driving the day in question.

    As far as I'm aware the advice previously (from Martin Lewis websites etc) was to ignore these notices and not engage in any contact with these companies, and eventually they would stop. Seems to have been a change in attitude recently though with some of these companies following through with their threats. Probably just going to continue throwing them a deafy and see what happens?
    1. It's a penalty charge, not a fine, and is therefore not a criminal offence.

    2. The penalty is against the driver and not the owner. Since it is not criminal the owner is NOT obliged to name the driver under s.172 Road Traffic Act 1988.

    3. Keep dingying them, they will give up eventually.

    4. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES respond naming the driver at the time the charge was incurred.

    5. If you can, make sure the owner has some proof they were otherwise engaged during the period when the charge was incurred.

    At this point in time the above advice is perfectly legal until some tory government minister becomes a shareholder of these parking company leeches whereupon they will change the law to suit. #cynical
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibee Kev View Post
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    The missus received a parking ticket in the summer from the company that manages the parking at Meadowbank Retail Park. We've been dingy-ing the penalty notices up until now, but the latest one is threatening court action! The twist part is it was actually me that was driving the day in question.

    As far as I'm aware the advice previously (from Martin Lewis websites etc) was to ignore these notices and not engage in any contact with these companies, and eventually they would stop. Seems to have been a change in attitude recently though with some of these companies following through with their threats. Probably just going to continue throwing them a deafy and see what happens?
    I got the same treatment for a few months earlier this year. I just ignored them and they eventually stopped.

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