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    Bookies' odds

    William Hills odds: 1/2 Kenny Shiels, 7/1 Jimmy Calderwood, 7/1 Jimmy Nicholl, 7/1 Terry Butcher, 10/1 Paul Hartley, 10/1 Ian Murray, 12/1 Craig Levein, 16/1 Alex McLeish.

    So you can see where people have been putting their money...
    Hibs are standing on the brink of history...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKII View Post
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    William Hills odds: 1/2 Kenny Shiels, 7/1 Jimmy Calderwood, 7/1 Jimmy Nicholl, 7/1 Terry Butcher, 10/1 Paul Hartley, 10/1 Ian Murray, 12/1 Craig Levein, 16/1 Alex McLeish.

    So you can see where people have been putting their money...
    Im sorry but why is paul hartley even in them odds? Surley we all hate him or is it just me?

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    Imho theres only two from this list that i think is worthy of being the next hibs manager, and thats Alex McLeish or Terry Butcher, the rest are a step back!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyPaget1875 View Post
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    Imho theres only two from this list that i think is worthy of being the next hibs manager, and thats Alex McLeish or Terry Butcher, the rest are a step back!!
    From Fenlon ...honestly ???

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    Yup!! As i say only my opinion!!, lets just hope this isn't the boards short list!! And Murry and Hartley should be at 1000/1 to get the job, not enough experiance,

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    Calderwood, Hartley, levein ,McLeish and Mowbray can a' gtf

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyPaget1875 View Post
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    Yup!! As i say only my opinion!!, lets just hope this isn't the boards short list!! And Murry and Hartley should be at 1000/1 to get the job, not enough experiance,
    Agree with that but on your first post , Shiels won a cup final against Celtic and did Calderwood not have Aberdeen in The Euro group stages ?

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    I think Murray would do a good job wi' an auld heid alongside him

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    Quote Originally Posted by paigntonhibby View Post
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    I think Murray would do a good job wi' an auld heid alongside him
    I think the Doc has had the call already

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forzahibs View Post
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    Agree with that but on your first post , Shiels won a cup final against Celtic and did Calderwood not have Aberdeen in The Euro group stages ?
    Aye your rite!! But do you not think we should be setting our sights higher than calderwood and sheils?? And in the end were they no both sacked for a bad run of results???

    I totaly see where your coming from but we need a manager that can build a team that will fight week in and week out?

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    I think Murray would do a good job wi' an auld heid alongside him
    Na hes no the man fir the job???

    Why are people setting OUR sights so low?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyPaget1875 View Post
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    Aye your rite!! But do you not think we should be setting our sights higher than calderwood and sheils?? And in the end were they no both sacked for a bad run of results???

    I totaly see where your coming from but we need a manager that can build a team that will fight week in and week out?

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    Na hes no the man fir the job???

    Why are people setting OUR sights so low?
    Well I suppose you have to be realistic . I'm not saying go for either but in my opinion but would be an improvement on Fenlon . Maybe it'll be someone not yet mentioned who'll excite us all ???

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    Do u agree that we are one of the biggest clubs in Scotland? Have we had sucsess with realistic managers in the past? We have went with the so called realistic option before and its not worked!! There must be a time where we need to break the bank and shoot for the stars and have a team and manager that will put us back in a possition that other team dont want to play us and are afraid off droping 3 points against us!! Im goin to say upfront that i respect your oppinion but $#@! THE REALISTIC OPPTION!! We need to put a BIG name in the seat this time

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyPaget1875 View Post
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    Do u agree that we are one of the biggest clubs in Scotland? Have we had sucsess with realistic managers in the past? We have went with the so called realistic option before and its not worked!! There must be a time where we need to break the bank and shoot for the stars and have a team and manager that will put us back in a possition that other team dont want to play us and are afraid off droping 3 points against us!! Im goin to say upfront that i respect your oppinion but $#@! THE REALISTIC OPPTION!! We need to put a BIG name in the seat this time
    Yes

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    Absolutely Mikey, where's our ambition and long term planning? I think McCall and Butcher are two who could do this and if not them, we need to look further afield and not dive in with another bad decision.

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    Do you think its worked in the past??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyPaget1875 View Post
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    Imho theres only two from this list that i think is worthy of being the next hibs manager, and thats Alex McLeish or Terry Butcher, the rest are a step back!!
    Sorry mate, but your having a laugh suggesting Eck are ye no? You do remember him being wined and dined at Ipox whilst employed as our manager yeah? You do remember him walking out on us days before we were due along the M8 for a game yeah? Sorry, but he can $#@! right off imo Mikey!

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    Butcher wont come to Hibs, he is settled up at Inverness and i think that club works with him the no pressure etc, At hibs its a different ball game

    My choice would be to splash out and bring in a higher profile manager to take us places but at the end of the day If its Kenny then i will be happier than i was a few days ago when we had PF in charge. I hope the board take there time im happy enough for Jimmy to be in charge for the next few weeks if it means picking the right man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastcoasthibby View Post
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    Absolutely Mikey, where's our ambition and long term planning? I think McCall and Butcher are two who could do this and if not them, we need to look further afield and not dive in with another bad decision.
    Defo mate!! We need to get it rite this time, no $#@!in about this time! Am sick of settling for second best!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyPaget1875 View Post
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    Do u agree that we are one of the biggest clubs in Scotland? Have we had sucsess with realistic managers in the past? We have went with the so called realistic option before and its not worked!! There must be a time where we need to break the bank and shoot for the stars and have a team and manager that will put us back in a possition that other team dont want to play us and are afraid off droping 3 points against us!! Im goin to say upfront that i respect your oppinion but $#@! THE REALISTIC OPPTION!! We need to put a BIG name in the seat this time
    So why Eck then? Going by that post, surely Holloway and Warnock should be the guys we approach?

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    Sorry mate, but your having a laugh suggesting Eck are ye no? You do remember him being wined and dined at Ipox whilst employed as our manager yeah? You do remember him walking out on us days before we were due along the M8 for a game yeah? Sorry, but he can $#@! right off imo Mikey!
    Ok san! Let me ask you this? If you were to pick 2 on a short list out of this lot who would you pick?

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    Hibs to make a move for Butcher according to the Daily Record today
    "I can't stress enough how important it is to be in possession of the football - it is better to be the matador rather than the bull"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyPaget1875 View Post
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    Ok san! Let me ask you this? If you were to pick 2 on a short list out of this lot who would you pick?
    For me it'd be KS and IM.

    Let's be honest Mikey, McCall and Butcher won't come to Hibs.

    I'd be surprised if big eck wanted to come back to scottish football. However given everything I do think big eck would be a fantastic appointment. I just don't see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyPaget1875 View Post
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    Ok san! Let me ask you this? If you were to pick 2 on a short list out of this lot who would you pick?
    Holloway and Warnock, already said that ya bam lol
    You want a bit ambition, so do I! My gut says both would say no, but at least ask the question imo!

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    Butcher wont come to Hibs, he is settled up at Inverness and i think that club works with him the no pressure etc, At hibs its a different ball game

    My choice would be to splash out and bring in a higher profile manager to take us places but at the end of the day If its Kenny then i will be happier than i was a few days ago when we had PF in charge. I hope the board take there time im happy enough for Jimmy to be in charge for the next few weeks if it means picking the right man.
    Was Kenny not sacked for the same reasons that Fenlon would have been?

    Kenny is a total erse? Why why WHY are we setteling for second best AGAIN!!!!!

    Lets get a big name in and get the club back to where it should be!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MixuDave View Post
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    Holloway and Warnock, already said that ya bam lol
    You want a bit ambition, so do I! My gut says both would say no, but at least ask the question imo!
    This. Both would be excellent appointments cant see it but why not see the availability

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    Quote Originally Posted by MixuDave View Post
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    Holloway and Warnock, already said that ya bam lol
    You want a bit ambition, so do I! My gut says both would say no, but at least ask the question imo!
    Naw ya big bounce bassa!!!

    Pick 2 from the bookies short list!!!


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    Hibs to make a move for Butcher according to the Daily Record today
    If true, thats pretty exciting news.

    I reckon its time for Butcher to take a chance on a more challenging team and Hibs would certainly be a challenge

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    Quote Originally Posted by southfieldhibby View Post
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    If true, thats pretty exciting news.

    I reckon its time for Butcher to take a chance on a more challenging team and Hibs would certainly be a challenge
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    No need to rush an appointment imo. I'm wi @MixuDave. Holloway & Warnock must be asked, that shows real ambition.

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    What a dismal list.

    I think it was WEE162 who suggested a Continental cpach with fresh ideas.
    That appeals to me.
    See what Johnny Foreigner can offer in terms of adventurous attacking philosophy, and maybe interview Butcher as a fall back.
    The rest are non-runners.

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    What a dismal list.

    I think it was WEE162 who suggested a Continental cpach with fresh ideas.
    That appeals to me.
    See what Johnny Foreigner can offer in terms of adventurous attacking philosophy, and maybe interview Butcher as a fall back.
    The rest are non-runners.
    Would you consider ex-jambo Lazlo? (not sure of spelling) i'm sure he got emptied not that long ago from his club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MixuDave View Post
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    So why Eck then? Going by that post, surely Holloway and Warnock should be the guys we approach?
    On cloud ku ku if you think we could attract any of those 2 dude.

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    On cloud ku ku if you think we could attract any of those 2 dude.
    Money talks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickyRicky View Post
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    On cloud ku ku if you think we could attract any of those 2 dude.
    Why? Are you gony settle for 2nd best again!!

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    I listen to Warnock on the Radio sometimes with Brasil, seems like he's involved in some take over of Birmingham City.Not so sure about Holloway either,a criticism of Fenlon was his lack of knowledge/contacts of Scottish football...same would apply to Holloway.


    now is the time to try something different...Director of Football and 1st team coach...Pat Nevin and Jimmy Nicol

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    For me it'd be KS and IM.

    Let's be honest Mikey, McCall and Butcher won't come to Hibs.

    I'd be surprised if big eck wanted to come back to scottish football. However given everything I do think big eck would be a fantastic appointment. I just don't see it.
    Heard Eck was on 250K a year when with us, if so, wouldn't get near that now
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    Why? Are you gony settle for 2nd best again!!
    Would you manage Hibs or any Championship side?

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    Would you manage Hibs or any Championship side?
    Exactly , Hibs won't attract anything like the best . All we can do is get the best man available (and interested)
    If either of these guys are interested i'm sure they'll make it known , then it's up to the board to get them

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    Would you manage Hibs or any Championship side?
    That's not the point he's trying to make.

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    Is the Hibs job no the second biggest coaching job in Scotland right now? Yi canny count lower division teams nor teams who are set to be relegated or made defunct as big clubs.

    Maybe the sheep are bigger than us but that's a maybe. I reckon Butcher or what about McColl, both ex huns I know but seem to be able to do a job and have experience of the Scottish game

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    That's not the point he's trying to make.
    What is his point then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stickyRicky View Post
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    Would you manage Hibs or any Championship side?
    Why no??? Do you think were a wee club? One of the top 3-4 bigest in club, we shouldnt settle for second best!!!

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    On cloud ku ku if you think we could attract any of those 2 dude.
    Sadly, I agree.

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    Money talks.
    Indeed it does. And with the latest TV deal down there, the money in the Championship is literally light years away from anything we could offer.

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    Why? Are you gony settle for 2nd best again!!
    We might as well say "let's go for Andre Villas-Boas" if we are not accepting any grounding in reality.
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    What a dismal list.

    I think it was WEE162 who suggested a Continental cpach with fresh ideas.
    That appeals to me.
    See what Johnny Foreigner can offer in terms of adventurous attacking philosophy, and maybe interview Butcher as a fall back.
    The rest are non-runners.
    The continental approach would appeal to me , however the name Henning Berg comes to mind, wasnt he touted as a possible last time ?He is still looking for a coaching role. Dear god, I hope he comes no where near Easter Road

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Shrink View Post
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    What a dismal list. I think it was WEE162 who suggested a Continental cpach with fresh ideas. That appeals to me. See what Johnny Foreigner can offer in terms of adventurous attacking philosophy, and maybe interview Butcher as a fall back. The rest are non-runners.

    Exactly. The Scottish game shouldnt just be a turnstile of the same old faces with same old ideas. That said, I reckon Carlo Ancelotti might balk at the idea of exchanging the Spanish sunshine for Siberian December Saturdays in Leith...

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    The continental approach would appeal to me , however the name Henning Berg comes to mind, wasnt he touted as a possible last time ?He is still looking for a coaching role. Dear god, I hope he comes no where near Easter Road
    Though he gained a fair bit of experience in his fortnight at Blackburn

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    Why no??? Do you think were a wee club? One of the top 3-4 bigest in club, we shouldnt settle for second best!!!
    Cos were a $#@! club in a $#@! league and not willing to spend.

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    Though he gained a fair bit of experience in his fortnight at Blackburn
    The one thing he did gain was a cool 2.5 million quid if I remember correctly.

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    Cos were a $#@! club in a $#@! league and not willing to spend.
    Then go support somone else then!???

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    Are we losing sight of reality here?

    Holloway, has had clubs promoted to the premiership, what kind of money do we really think we have? He will get another top championship job in no time, even if we could get him on board, he'd be away in six months time. Getting Hibs to second is probably as tough as being promoted to the Premiership, but nowhere near as rewarding.

    McCleish has been whoring himself for the Palace job, so that shows where he thinks he is. Plus why would we want someone who put us through what he did? $#@! him, no loyalty shown in anything he's ever done.

    I'd love to see us appoint someone like Holloway, speaks the truth and plays attacking football regardless of the ocassion, but it's far too big a stretch to expect that kind of appointment.

    We also need someone who knows Scottish football, each and every Hibs fan has uttered that phrase, Kenny Shiels, Terry Butcher and Stuart McCall are the 3 beat options up here imo. 2 of them will be tough to get, 1 looks like everything is in place to benefit his appointment.

    Whatever happens though, we need to give it time to take shape. Fed up saying this every couple of years, but look at the job Butcher has dome, he's been through some real tough times at ICT and the work he's put in is why they're where they are... If it gets tough we need to stand and take it, the end result will be worth it.
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