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Zoomer set to be out for the weekend?
HIBS boss John Hughes today revealed he's '90 per cent certain' that midfielder Merouane Zemmama has not suffered serious injury and could even be in the frame to
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Unless he gets his finger oot his erse and starts looking interested it wont matter if he is fit or not as he will soon be punted onto the bench beside his mate.
As a recently recruited Hibee I may not be too well qualified to comment but when I saw him in the recent Derby game he was head and shoulders above anything else on the pitch. I assume like most players with his quality he blows a bit hot and cold?
Oh well, another player who was being hailed as something of a saviour when he returned at the start of the season comes in for stick. Why am I not surprised? If Zemmama is carrying an injury then I reckon he needs to be cut a bit of slack as no player can be expected to perform to their best if not fully fit. That aside, I'm not too surprised that his form has dipped as he's the type of player we're likely to see the best of early or late in the season rather than mid-winter. If he isn't up to it at the moment then yes he should drop to the bench but he and Benji will probably be off at the end of the season in any case, then you won't need to worry about them any longer.
Zemmama was starting to get more involved in the game when he got injured on saturday. I think he has been decent in most games even if he hasn't been at his very best.
The wee man is never a right winger/forward in his puff! He's a central midfielder, right midfielder or at a push played in the latapy role behind 2, yes 2 strikers.
Like Riordan his form and influence in the side is strugling because of the postion he's playing in. Why can't we keep it simple with Riordan up top with Stokes, Zemmama in the middle of the park with Wotherspoon on the right and Galbraith, Murray or Stevenson on the left? Our shape would be better although a little lightweight in midfield and players would be playing in there natural and best positions?
He's one of us forever green - Riordan, Riordan.
There is a bonny fitba team - Riordan, Riordan
He hates the jambo's more than most, he's got a mate the friendly ghost....
It's Derek Riordan - Hibernian's number 10
Agree
Although i agree he should play more central i think he is being unproffesional by taking the huff (no playing well).The wee man is never a right winger/forward in his puff! He's a central midfielder, right midfielder or at a push played in the latapy role behind 2, yes 2 strikers.
Like Riordan his form and influence in the side is strugling because of the postion he's playing in. Why can't we keep it simple with Riordan up top with Stokes, Zemmama in the middle of the park with Wotherspoon on the right and Galbraith, Murray or Stevenson on the left? Our shape would be better although a little lightweight in midfield and players would be playing in there natural and best positions?
Agree
Although i agree he should play more central i think he is being unproffesional by taking the huff (no playing well).
Agreed, but the same people are saying about Riordan. Think about it.....
Riordan & Zemmama, the 2 players more than any others that have natural footballing ability over the rest of the side and are most likely to make stuff happen are both playing out of position and if a huff because of it, why not play to our tallented players strengths? Keep them happier and overall have a more productive side?
It just baffles me that Yogi mentioned before the huns game he was thinking about changing the shape, being completely shagged, drop Nish and keep the same shape against the Jambo tramps, play shite and then keep the same shape when Zemmama gets injured when Benji comes on, and only change it at half time on Saturday but still keep Derek Riordan on the left? I really just dinnae get it.
He's one of us forever green - Riordan, Riordan.
There is a bonny fitba team - Riordan, Riordan
He hates the jambo's more than most, he's got a mate the friendly ghost....
It's Derek Riordan - Hibernian's number 10
Well it could be as simple as he dosn't think Galbraith is ready for first team football, if he was Riordan may be pushed up front. And we dont have a RB so Wotherspoon plays there and Zeemama covers his position at RM giving his gifted players a game still.
True, but Rankin and Lewis can play Left mid too.
Football management is anything but simple I suppose, but as it's not Yogis full squad just now and has been in the job 6 successfull months im willing to trust in him and give the benefit o the doubt.
He's one of us forever green - Riordan, Riordan.
There is a bonny fitba team - Riordan, Riordan
He hates the jambo's more than most, he's got a mate the friendly ghost....
It's Derek Riordan - Hibernian's number 10
If this hamstring problem has affected Zouma's peformances then I would accept it as he has been mince during the winter. But at the same time why on earth is Yogi playing Zouma, when Zouma said that he has had this problem for a few weeks now. But at the same time Zouma is a bit stupid for not telling Yogi about this hamstring problem a couple of weeks ago.
Same her but imagine a team like this.
Smith
Hogg
Bamba
Murray
Wotherspoon
McBride
Miller
Zeemama
Hanlon
Stokes
Riordan
Zeemama off the front two and Wotherspoon and Hanlon wing backs.
Cant fit Zeemama in a 442 cos to me it would be like this
Smith
McCormack/McCann
Hogg
Bamba
Murray
Wotherspoon
McBride
Miller
Galbraith/Stevenson
Stokes
Riordan
I would swop Hanlon and Murray or perhaps leave Hanlon out and use Thicot in the same formation we played second half on saturday. Nowt against Hanlon but I think Murray would be more productive down the left flank that he would.
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Aye that would work fine.
i didnt realise we had a player who only performs when its sunny.
Thats handy in Scotland.
anyone else hear on the radio saying he's out this weekend?
I heard on Monday Zemmama is oot until mid Feb.....
He's one of us forever green - Riordan, Riordan.
There is a bonny fitba team - Riordan, Riordan
He hates the jambo's more than most, he's got a mate the friendly ghost....
It's Derek Riordan - Hibernian's number 10
Out for Saturday back next Wednesday.
Source? Yogi...
BBC Sport - Manager John Hughes expects Hibernian to bounce back
Believe it when I see it.
He's one of us forever green - Riordan, Riordan.
There is a bonny fitba team - Riordan, Riordan
He hates the jambo's more than most, he's got a mate the friendly ghost....
It's Derek Riordan - Hibernian's number 10
The way I see it (only my opinion) 3-5-2 doesn't get used anymore for a reason...
Teams these days play with wide midfielders and overlapping full-backs, which would leave our singular wide players exposed. The midield would be so croweded that neither side could play any real football, leading to the ball being lumped forward to the strikers - which would require a big target man (i.e. Nish) with the other striker and the player in the hole looking for knock downs. Also if the other team only play one up front, we've got too many players marking on man.
I think we should be playing the 442/4231 we have been using, but making sure we pick the right players for the game (horses for courses as they say). Riordan playing off Stokes could work against some teams, but not against the likes of Rangers, Hearts or Hamilton. This is where we need Nish IMO. I'd rather have Murray at left back and Hanlon in the centre, but I think Murray has to play centrally as he has more experience to deal with Antoine-Currier.
Smith
Thicot
Hogg
Murray
Hanlon
Wotherspoon
McBride
Miller
Rankin
Nish
Stokes
No Riordan from the start, but Rankin's work rate (I'd also say Stevenson, but he won't play ahead of Rankin) is more important at the start against the Accies than Riordan's flair.
Steady like, he has one good half and now everyone wants Thicot in the team?
Swap Thicot for Barr and get Rankin oot and you might be onto something
He's one of us forever green - Riordan, Riordan.
There is a bonny fitba team - Riordan, Riordan
He hates the jambo's more than most, he's got a mate the friendly ghost....
It's Derek Riordan - Hibernian's number 10
It's more that we've tried every other option, Wotherspoon will have to play midfield without Zemmama, and Barr's no signed yetSteady like, he has one good half and now everyone wants Thicot in the team?
Swap Thicot for Barr and get Rankin oot and you might be onto something
Just noticed the Hamilton game mate sorry.It's more that we've tried every other option, Wotherspoon will have to play midfield without Zemmama, and Barr's no signed yet
Kevin McCann
He's one of us forever green - Riordan, Riordan.
There is a bonny fitba team - Riordan, Riordan
He hates the jambo's more than most, he's got a mate the friendly ghost....
It's Derek Riordan - Hibernian's number 10
I think we would be better with a Mowbray type formation that syncronises a 4-4-2, a 4-3-3 and a 4-5-1 all in one go.
Mowbray packed the midfield with the likes of Beuzelin, Thomson and Brown (sometimes Glass). These 3 were the prodomenent central midfielders, but as i recall Beuzelin used to sometimes be required to play right midfield to accomodate Dean Shiels or Steven Fletcher, before Ivan signed.. it looked a bit like this...
...................................Thomson(McBride).........................................................
......................... Beuzelin(Miller)...........Brown(Stevenson/Cregg).................................................
.................Shiels(Zemmama)..................................Riordan....................................
...................................O'Connor(Stokes).........................................................
When we don't have the ball a 5 man midfield would form, when we did, Riordan would join the attack and Brown or Glass who did it more obviously would occupy the left midfield berth with Shiels moving on to the right, creating a 4-4-2 with Riordan in his best position. Also, at times Shiles would join Riordan and O'Connor in a 3 man attack, leaving a flat 3 in midfield and creating a 4-3-3... I think we have the players currently to suit this system.
This gives Zemmama and Riordan more of a free role that they crave and also encourages Zemmama to get into the box a bit more, in a role similar to what Shiels had. Riordan would also be in the position where he produced his best goal return for us.
What do we think?
I would be willing to give it a whirl but imo theres a couple of reasons i reckon it wouldn't work.I think we would be better with a Mowbray type formation that syncronises a 4-4-2, a 4-3-3 and a 4-5-1 all in one go.
Mowbray packed the midfield with the likes of Beuzelin, Thomson and Brown (sometimes Glass). These 3 were the prodomenent central midfielders, but as i recall Beuzelin used to sometimes be required to play right midfield to accomodate Dean Shiels or Steven Fletcher, before Ivan signed.. it looked a bit like this...
...................................Thomson(McBride).........................................................
......................... Beuzelin(Miller)...........Brown(Stevenson/Cregg).................................................
.................Shiels(Zemmama)..................................Riordan....................................
...................................O'Connor(Stokes).........................................................
When we don't have the ball a 5 man midfield would form, when we did, Riordan would join the attack and Brown or Glass who did it more obviously would occupy the left midfield berth with Shiels moving on to the right, creating a 4-4-2 with Riordan in his best position. Also, at times Shiles would join Riordan and O'Connor in a 3 man attack, leaving a flat 3 in midfield and creating a 4-3-3... I think we have the players currently to suit this system.
This gives Zemmama and Riordan more of a free role that they crave and also encourages Zemmama to get into the box a bit more, in a role similar to what Shiels had. Riordan would also be in the position where he produced his best goal return for us.
What do we think?
McBride/Stevenson could never lace the boots of Brown let alone give his kind of performance in that role.
I don't think Stokes is a target man like O'Connor, Stokes is more last man on the shoulder of the defender to break through defenses where as O'Connor was more play into feet and hold onto the ball to bring other players into the attack.
Good points there however, I feel that McBride would act more as a sitting player similar to the Thomson role. Stevenson is not the player Brown is but probably more suited to a left central midfield role.
Stokes can still be a target man, but only to slip through balls into, which with players like Riordan, Zemmama and Miller behind him, who can all thread a weighted pass, could be effective. Ultimatley our play would materialise through the midfield, leaving no need for the Striker to hold up the ball. Stokes however could drop deep, but he would then have an outlet in Riordan and Zemmama on either side to play the ball too before making a forward run.
I meant Cregg sorry
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