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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross Scott1991 View Post
    It may sound bad of me, but I don't want Stuart McCall. Purely based on fact I don't want all these Huns/Ex Huns being the face of our club. If he did well he will be first man rangers go to for when they inevitably get rid of McCoist in couple of seasons.

    Butcher, Mcpake as captain etc.

    We need to put the Hibs back into the Hibs.

    Murray/Boozy for me.
    You could've just said you didn't want someone who would leave us for Rangers.

    Isn't McPake a Celtic man too btw?

    I agree with your bringing Hibs back though :
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammi View Post
    We don't need steadied, we need promoted. Someone with forward thinking ideas is a must.
    Spot on. I want someone to come in with a really clear idea of how they want to play. Like what Mowbray did when he came in. Got his philosophy in place and built from that. There is always the argument about wanting a winning manager in but IMO if you get the team playing properly and try to build something the results will follow. I certainly think that gives you a better chance of success than the percentage football of the last few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonnyrigg H.F.C View Post
    Spot on. I want someone to come in with a really clear idea of how they want to play. Like what Mowbray did when he came in. Got his philosophy in place and built from that. There is always the argument about wanting a winning manager in but IMO if you get the team playing properly and try to build something the results will follow. I certainly think that gives you a better chance of success than the percentage football of the last few years.
    Full agreement, especially the bit in bold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mon Dieu View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by hibbybilly View Post
    We've no got enough players tae fill 1 coach Jamie
    that was my wishful thinking



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    Sack Race Job Centre | Which Managers Are Being Linked to Which Clubs
    I think there are a few that would jump at the chance. Capello would love us

    butchers on it already!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanton Spence View Post
    I heard a rumour that Barry Ferguson could be the next one in ????
    No doubt the rumour mill will be in overdrive , I would love Mowbray back tho his management style could be better suited to brining on young talent which is still at Easter road believe it or not


    Quote Originally Posted by stickyRicky View Post
    I reckon Ferguson is more likely to get the job than anyone who has been mentioned in this thread.





    Quote Originally Posted by hibbybilly View Post
    According tae the slavering stuttering trumpet on STV news Murray is favourite.
    That was awful wasn't it......... poor sod. The 'wind of change' blew his script away and he was strugglin'


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    Thoughts on a couple mentioned;
    Mowbray - He was decent at Hibs. But we underachieved imo. He had a fantastic squad of players who Williamson had done the hard work of bringing through. We didn't win anything. He didn't address the glaring weaknesses in squads (goalkeeper!). And with a much better squad he presided over as bad a defeat at Hampden to Hearts as Fenlon did. But the football was good.
    Murray - I would have appointed him last month before the Kilmarnock game and said so at the time. His record at Dumbarton is excellent. I don't get the "he needs more time" argument at all. What? At Dumbarton? Or lower SPL level? If he's a success at SPL level there's every chance he'll never manage Hibs. Managers want to go to England, and English sides will take a chance on someone who's done well with a low level top division side from Scotland. Now or possibly never imo.
    Steve Clarke - Not coming. Don't be mental.
    Jackie McNamara - No a million miles away from getting the Celtic job and people think he's going to come to Hibs? See Steve Clarke.
    Malky Mackay - See Steve Clarke
    Craig Brown - Just naw. Brutal football.
    McCall - Maybe? Unconvinced he'll leave Motherwell to join Hibs in a lower league though, especially because he looks odds on to become the next huns manager when they punt McCoist. If he's got faith in himself to do a job at Hibs, he might well be setting himself up to join the huns in another season in the 1st division!
    Mjallby - Maybe? No managerial experience as his own man though. Would set high standards imo though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFTB View Post
    that was my wishful thinking
    What aboot Ronaldinho as a coach? We could take his teeth oot and pit seats in

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    As I stated on another thread I want a man who will bring back the flair.

    I'd go for someone continental, no idea who though.

    Mowbray can get $#@!ed after his huddle at ER while with Septic.

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    I think we will go down the same road as the gunts with a young ambitious manager overseen by an older more experienced director of football.

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    Ian Murray for me - all the way, no two ways about it.

    My view hasn't changed since we were looking for Fenlon's successor, and it's not going to change now. I'll tell you one thing, though:

    I'm starting to like Michael Stewart after his commentary today.

    I wonder...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammi View Post
    I'd love to see us bring someone in who's got a record, but why would they risk their reputation coming here? Not in this league.
    I think it's going to have to be someone relatively young with something to prove. It could also be the best way for us to go.

    Someone who hasn't fully formed their own ideas yet, work closely with LD and the rest of the staff she plans to bring in (I hear she's unhappy about the shortage of scouts at the club) and then build his and our philosophy at the same time.

    Either way, I'm fully behind them. They'll need all the help they can get from the stands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zellviren View Post
    Ian Murray for me - all the way, no two ways about it.

    My view hasn't changed since we were looking for Fenlon's successor, and it's not going to change now. I'll tell you one thing, though:

    I'm starting to like Michael Stewart after his commentary today.

    I wonder...
    Ian Murray isn't ready for a job at a club the size of Hibs regardless of whether the hun is any good as a manager or not
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    I`d give the nod to Ian Murray i reckon. I`m about 99% sure about it.

    I think the club will try and get McCall, though i think he`s gearing up for the SevCo job.
    I started out with nothing and i`ve still got most of it left.

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    I hope Leeann Dempster sack TB knowing to have a suitable replacement ready to take over rather than hoping to find a replacement.
    Was Tony lucky to inherit a youth team? Was Erick lucky to sign sauzee (Paise be apon him) and latapy.
    I think after watch hibs for 30 years Tony's team was one of the best drilled ever, there was more than a few goals put past the Huns,
    I was 50/50 on TB but would line Tony back.

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    Ian Murray with Russell Latapy as assistant? Could do worse. My fear is, and I do hope that LD will buck the trend, it's gonna be Danny Lennon. 😔

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    McCall may like working with LD but he's surely not going to drop down a division, it IS too soon for Murray (not in terms of coaching but we need to build an entire squad and, unless working with a solid DoF, I doubt he'd be up to it) & Barry Ferguson? Barry f2ckin Ferguson??? I hope that sums up my feelings towards that particular suggestion.

    Mowbray with Boozy in some capacity sounds like the best option to me. If not, and I already hate myself for saying this, Jimmy Calderwood. He has experience, contacts & would build a good squad from scratch IMO.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThorntonHibby View Post
    Ian Murray with Russell Latapy as assistant? Could do worse. My fear is, and I do hope that LD will buck the trend, it's gonna be Danny Lennon. 😔
    I think i'd give up on returning to Easter Road if Danny Lennon was the managerial choice.

    I'm hoping that it really is only Leann's choice who the new Manager is going to be, as it can only be better than the last few appointments.

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    See this is how some kind of fan owned club would be so hard, everyone had so many different opinions...
    I just don't know about IM, lots of youngish managers seem to get the gig at clubs throughout Europe..
    Had Simeone (Sp) have any experience pre Atletico?
    There is a few down South but names escape me🙉
    Would Coyle be outwith us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hattie View Post
    See this is how some kind of fan owned club would be so hard, everyone had so many different opinions...
    I just don't know about IM, lots of youngish managers seem to get the gig at clubs throughout Europe..
    Had Simeone (Sp) have any experience pre Atletico?
    There is a few down South but names escape me🙉
    Would Coyle be outwith us?
    Perhaps not but I don't think you are comparing apples with apples Hattie. How much money did Simeone have to spend at Athletico compared to the budget IM would have at Hibs. Anyway, I hope it isn't Ian Murray tbh as he isn't ready for a job of this magnitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dub View Post
    Perhaps not but I don't think you are comparing apples with apples Hattie. How much money did Simeone have to spend at Athletico compared to the budget IM would have at Hibs. Anyway, I hope it isn't Ian Murray tbh as he isn't ready for a job of this magnitude.
    Maybe comparing the seeds😳
    But he did spend a tiny fraction compared to the teams he beat to the title...

    Sometimes you just have to take that chance...

    Yeah I know, we are not exactly in a place where we can afford to " take a chance"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThorntonHibby View Post
    Ian Murray with Russell Latapy as assistant? Could do worse. My fear is, and I do hope that LD will buck the trend, it's gonna be Danny Lennon. 😔
    No chance Danny Lennon will be anywhere near Easter Road. Torn faced $#@! that he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaCWsauzee View Post
    As I stated on another thread I want a man who will bring back the flair.

    I'd go for someone continental, no idea who though.

    Mowbray can get $#@!ed after his huddle at ER while with Septic.
    this exactly,fcuk Mowbray. and anybody else that just sees us as a stepping stone tae either one o' the bigot brothers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hattie View Post
    Maybe comparing the seeds��
    But he did spend a tiny fraction compared to the teams he beat to the title...

    Sometimes you just have to take that chance...

    Yeah I know, we are not exactly in a place where we can afford to " take a chance"
    Simone managed clubs in Argentina including River Plate before Atletico Madrid. He also has huge experience as a top level player and won over 100 caps for Argentina.
    I would only bring Murray in if he had a more experienced director of football to work with.

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    We were relegated into the First Division a few weeks ago, costing the club many thousands of pounds. We have now sacked yet another manager after only seven months in the job and will have to pay a hefty compensation to him and Malpas and Marsella. We need to get our collective heads around the fact that we are no longer a top flight club. Any established manager who still has his sanity will steer well clear of the poisoned chalice which is the Hibs managers job.

    Leeann needs to try to reunite the club with it's fans. We don't have much money and I dread to think how much the compensation is going to eat into our player budget for next season, so I can see someone cheap and young being recruited. I know Ian Murray has only recently signed a new deal at Dumbarton, but for me he is as near to a certainty as you will get to succeed Butcher. He has a good record in the Division we are going to be playing in and he won't be too expensive after we pay out even more compo to Dumbarton. The fans will also rally behind a man who has a great passion for the club.

    Personally, I think it's too early for Ian Murray, a guy who in reality is barely out of his nappies as a manager, but given the state we are in at the moment we are not exactly going to have the pick of the crop.. No SPFL manager in their right mind will want the Hibs job just now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hattie View Post
    See this is how some kind of fan owned club would be so hard, everyone had so many different opinions...
    I just don't know about IM, lots of youngish managers seem to get the gig at clubs throughout Europe..
    Had Simeone (Sp) have any experience pre Atletico?
    There is a few down South but names escape me🙉
    Would Coyle be outwith us?
    We need a modern coach with progressive ideas from what I've heard of Coyle at Wigan is that didn't have these qualities, outdated training methods etc.
    It depends what road the club want to go down if we are looking for a manager to build his own team I'm for Ian Murray. If we are looking to make 3-4 signings and use more of the players from last years u20's in the first team I'd be for James McDonaugh. If it's none of these two then I want a complete unknown ambitious modern coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaCWsauzee View Post
    As I stated on another thread I want a man who will bring back the flair.

    I'd go for someone continental, no idea who though.

    Mowbray can get $#@!ed after his huddle at ER while with Septic.
    Spot on.
    And his ridiculous assertions that McCheaty 'had to dive to save himself seious injury'.

    And the clincher was giving that waste of a pair of gloves Zibi a new contract as a parting gift.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dub View Post
    Ian Murray isn't ready for a job at a club the size of Hibs regardless of whether the hun is any good as a manager or not
    Spot on.
    We can't afford to 'give a chance' to someone who may or may not be big enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cantona View Post
    Simone managed clubs in Argentina including River Plate before Atletico Madrid. He also has huge experience as a top level player and won over 100 caps for Argentina.
    I would only bring Murray in if he had a more experienced director of football to work with.
    Cool, i was only asking as i had no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonegalHibee View Post
    We need a modern coach with progressive ideas from what I've heard of Coyle at Wigan is that didn't have these qualities, outdated training methods etc.
    It depends what road the club want to go down if we are looking for a manager to build his own team I'm for Ian Murray. If we are looking to make 3-4 signings and use more of the players from last years u20's in the first team I'd be for James McDonaugh. If it's none of these two then I want a complete unknown ambitious modern coach.
    Fair enough and i agree with your sentiments on what we need, this would generally be a younger coach with a bit vision....
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    Will back whoever LD picks. We've all shouted for some absolute shockers the last few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mon Dieu View Post
    Again...

    That is deeply disturbing

    Quote Originally Posted by wee 162 View Post
    Murray - I would have appointed him last month before the Kilmarnock game and said so at the time. His record at Dumbarton is excellent. I don't get the "he needs more time" argument at all. What? At Dumbarton? Or lower SPL level? If he's a success at SPL level there's every chance he'll never manage Hibs. Managers want to go to England, and English sides will take a chance on someone who's done well with a low level top division side from Scotland. Now or possibly never imo.
    ...

    Jackie McNamara - No a million miles away from getting the Celtic job and people think he's going to come to Hibs? See Steve Clarke.
    I'm in agreement with you, here. Interesting if you put these two together: folk are saying Murray is "not ready". Well, last time I looked, Jackie McNamara was the manager of Partick Thistle - his first manager's gig - down there before he was appointed at the Arabs. Now he was being touted for the Celtc job.

    What's the difference in readiness between Jackie Mac and Ian Murray?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hattie View Post
    See this is how some kind of fan owned club would be so hard, everyone had so many different opinions..?
    Odd statement when you consider that every club in Scotland is fan owned and run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenmachine View Post
    Any established manager who still has his sanity will steer well clear of the poisoned chalice which is the Hibs managers job.
    There are plenty of out-of-work managers (D. Lennon, J. Calderwood, G. Burley etc.) who would surely relish the chance of building their very own squad pre-season and having a crack at making Hibs great again. Nothing to lose, could resurrect their career.

    As an aside, I see that Burley was sacked by his last club, Apollon Limassol, after just 2 games! What the f@ck did he do? Put tap water ice cubes in the squad's pre-match thirst-quenchers?


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    Wanted Mowbray instead of Butcher but don't think Mowbray will be the answer now. You don't get promoted playing passing football when others will be doing anything to win.

    Wonder if John Park would leave his post at Celtic to try his hand at being number one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GdanskHibee View Post
    There are plenty of out-of-work managers (D. Lennon, J. Calderwood, G. Burley etc.) who would surely relish the chance of building their very own squad pre-season and having a crack at making Hibs great again. Nothing to lose, could resurrect their career.

    As an aside, I see that Burley was sacked by his last club, Apollon Limassol, after just 2 games! What the f@ck did he do? Put tap water ice cubes in the squad's pre-match thirst-quenchers?

    Given that he managed the gunts, his potential faux pas are limitless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gogs43 View Post
    Odd statement when you consider that every club in Scotland is fan owned and run?
    Maybe never put it across right.

    Owned and ran by us the fans, not A single fan who owns the club.

    Meaning we cant agree on mostly anything, we all have our opinions and they differ quite a bit, how would we come to any agreement
    How would it work
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    James McDonaugh why not knows the players really well why not hire from inside worth a shout

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Shrink View Post
    Spot on.
    We can't afford to 'give a chance' to someone who may or may not be big enough.
    And we have an idea about who is big enough for the job how?

    FWIW Murray has as much experience as a manager as Jackie McNamara had prior to getting the Dundee Utd job. You take a chance on the right person imo. I don't know if Murray is the right person. But Butcher wasn't, and there were damn few who thought that at the time he was appointed.

    I'd be entirely open to accepting applications and taking the best from those. I want a coach who isn't immediately whining about "needing his own players" (as if the players he has are all going to somehow evaporate) who makes the players he has better. I want someone with tactical ability who knows how to change a game and puts in place a system suited to the players he has. And I want someone who wants us to play football. I don't think this is a ridiculous wishlist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hattie View Post
    Maybe never put it across right.

    Owned and ran by us the fans, not A single fan who owns the club.

    Meaning we cant agree on mostly anything, we all have our opinions and they differ quite a bit, how would we come to any agreement
    How would it work
    You vote on a President. They make the appointments.

    That does not mean everyone will agree. Nor should it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wee 162 View Post
    And we have an idea about who is big enough for the job how?

    FWIW Murray has as much experience as a manager as Jackie McNamara had prior to getting the Dundee Utd job. You take a chance on the right person imo. I don't know if Murray is the right person. But Butcher wasn't, and there were damn few who thought that at the time he was appointed.

    I'd be entirely open to accepting applications and taking the best from those. I want a coach who isn't immediately whining about "needing his own players" as if the players he has are all going to somehow evaporate who makes the players he has better. I want someone with tactical ability who knows how to change a game and puts in place a system suited to the players he has. And I want someone who wants us to play football. I don't think this is a ridicilous wishlist.
    I was pretty envious of Utd when they appointed McNamara and Donnelly, with Daz joining them.

    I completely agree with your comparison of Murray, and the suggestion of Beuzy along with Murray that was made on Sportsound would sit pretty easily with me.

    Stuart McCall would probably be my 1st choice, although i think the combination of him probably waiting for "The Rangers" job and a possible reluctance to move down a division to a club that is much bigger than the steelmen but not "The Rangers" would nip that in the bud for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DZOK View Post
    I was pretty envious of Utd when they appointed McNamara and Donnelly, with Daz joining them.

    I completely agree with your comparison of Murray, and the suggestion of Beuzy along with Murray that was made on Sportsound would sit pretty easily with me.

    Stuart McCall would probably be my 1st choice, although i think the combination of him probably waiting for "The Rangers" job and a possible reluctance to move down a division to a club that is much bigger than the steelmen but not "The Rangers" would nip that in the bud for him.
    I made the point earlier that if McCall was to take the Hibs job, if he was successful he'd be likely to be $#@!ing up the job he probably wants when McCoist gets sacked. Plus, if he was successful, then the huns would have a double reason to bullet McCoist and weaken Hibs at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wee 162 View Post
    And we have an idea about who is big enough for the job how?

    FWIW Murray has as much experience as a manager as Jackie McNamara had prior to getting the Dundee Utd job. You take a chance on the right person imo. I don't know if Murray is the right person. But Butcher wasn't, and there were damn few who thought that at the time he was appointed.

    I'd be entirely open to accepting applications and taking the best from those. I want a coach who isn't immediately whining about "needing his own players" as if the players he has are all going to somehow evaporate who makes the players he has better. I want someone with tactical ability who knows how to change a game and puts in place a system suited to the players he has. And I want someone who wants us to play football. I don't think this is a ridicilous wishlist.

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    You vote on a President. They make the appointments.

    That does not mean everyone will agree. Nor should it.
    I mentioned this a while back about Jackie Mac experience wise, after all the managers we have had recently, and thinking some would be good, i just don't know any more...
    Is he ready?
    Would i be happy with him, i think so....
    I think if you are made for management then you stand out, i think IM has done a fantatsic job at Dumbarton, with what was a squad that was a cert for relegation when he took them over, so he can certainly change a teams performance for the better...
    But again, i just dont know what to think
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    Quote Originally Posted by wee 162 View Post
    And we have an idea about who is big enough for the job how?

    FWIW Murray has as much experience as a manager as Jackie McNamara had prior to getting the Dundee Utd job. You take a chance on the right person imo. I don't know if Murray is the right person. But Butcher wasn't, and there were damn few who thought that at the time he was appointed.
    I have absolutely no idea who is big enough - my talent at spotting managers is worse than Rodders'.
    Had no objections to most of his appointments at the time - disastrous as they may have turned out.
    Fenlon I'd never heard of, but the rest seemed to be decent picks to me.

    Jackie Mac is a beginner, and has had half a season or so with United, where it could be argued that the groundwork had mostly been laid. Ihun Murray is wet behind the ears and the Hibs job is easily in the top 5 in the country. He'd be seen as a cheap Rodders appointment, and other than the attraction that he would at least respect the Club, I don't see him as having the experience or respect demanded by the torn-faced greeting gurning $#@!wits that we also seem to employ as players at Hibs.
    Any manager is a gamble (which I think is your point) but I wouldn't put a wedge on Murray as being the answer.
    But then again I've admitted I'm $#@! at picking managers, and I can't put up a decent alternative - other than possibly guys who are unaffordable and would $#@! off at the first sniff of a job elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hattie View Post
    I mentioned this a while back about Jackie Mac experience wise, after all the managers we have had recently, and thinking some would be good, i just don't know any more...
    Is he ready?
    Would i be happy with him, i think so....
    I think if you are made for management then you stand out, i think IM has done a fantatsic job at Dumbarton, with what was a squad that was a cert for relegation when he took them over, so he can certainly change a teams performance for the better...
    But again, i just dont know what to think
    He might have hit the perfect storm of a job that suited him completely. As Butcher had at Inverness.

    But his results have been excellent. And he stands up for his club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wee 162 View Post
    I made the point earlier that if McCall was to take the Hibs job, if he was successful he'd be likely to be $#@!ing up the job he probably wants when McCoist gets sacked. Plus, if he was successful, then the huns would have a double reason to bullet McCoist and weaken Hibs at the same time.
    Sorry Al, i never read that.

    Very valid point mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wee 162 View Post
    He might have hit the perfect storm of a job that suited him completely. As Butcher had at Inverness.

    But his results have been excellent. And he stands up for his club.
    True
    Tb found a safe job at a level without too much expectation, but he had been managing for years, IM straight into it and makes a massive difference....

    I cant make my mind up tbh...

    Just praying LD knows exactly what we need and can make it happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaCWsauzee View Post
    As I stated on another thread I want a man who will bring back the flair.

    I'd go for someone continental, no idea who though.

    Mowbray can get $#@!ed after his huddle at ER while with Septic.
    Ebbe Skovdahl

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    Alex mcleish up top with Murray as coach? Rolling one year contracts see how it works? Something different maybe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Shrink View Post
    I have absolutely no idea who is big enough - my talent at spotting managers is worse than Rodders'.
    Had no objections to most of his appointments at the time - disastrous as they may have turned out.
    Fenlon I'd never heard of, but the rest seemed to be decent picks to me.

    Jackie Mac is a beginner, and has had half a season or so with United, where it could be argued that the groundwork had mostly been laid. Ihun Murray is wet behind the ears and the Hibs job is easily in the top 5 in the country. He'd be seen as a cheap Rodders appointment, and other than the attraction that he would at least respect the Club, I don't see him as having the experience or respect demanded by the torn-faced greeting gurning $#@!wits that we also seem to employ as players at Hibs.
    Any manager is a gamble (which I think is your point) but I wouldn't put a wedge on Murray as being the answer.
    But then again I've admitted I'm $#@! at picking managers, and I can't put up a decent alternative - other than possibly guys who are unaffordable and would $#@! off at the first sniff of a job elsewhere.
    It's a season and a half he's had. And mind, Houston left that job stating they couldn't go any further and they had no young players capable of making the breakthrough with them...

    I'm not convinced Murray is the answer, but he has done enough to make him a viable candidate. And that's regardless of him being a Hibby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hattie View Post
    Cool, i was only asking as i had no idea.

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    Fair enough and i agree with your sentiments on what we need, this would generally be a younger coach with a bit vision....
    Correct, can't be any worse, still think latapy has a job...or is that for another thread? Ian Murray will do hopefully, what we need :-) latapy in midfield ,-)
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    Grinning new manager

    His dad played for hibs he will part dundee utd thursday:

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    Billy Davies for me, but highly unlikely he'd come to us. There is a Motherwell connection though.

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