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Old 19-09-08, 22:19   #1
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Anyone agree with me in thinking that we should loan Grof out to a lower division club so he can get more first team experience?
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Old 19-09-08, 23:08   #2
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Re: Grof

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Anyone agree with me in thinking that we should loan Grof out to a lower division club so he can get more first team experience?
Personally I'd just release him.

He has complained a lot about Hibs holding him back - I'd happily let him do an 'Elias Wagner'
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Old 19-09-08, 23:22   #3
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Re: Grof

You're probably right but does anyone want a 17 year old first team keeper?
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Old 19-09-08, 23:22   #4
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Re: Grof

I agree.. I don't like the guy personally so release him, please!
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Old 19-09-08, 23:59   #5
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Re: Grof

As with the above posters, I'd get shot of him.
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Old 20-09-08, 00:45   #6
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I agree.. I don't like the guy personally so release him, please!
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Thats a shame - I was speaking to him, and he said he thought you were a top notch guy and couldnt wait to buy you chips!


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Old 20-09-08, 02:52   #7
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Re: Grof

i ithink rather than writing a 17 yr old off give him a chance of a season else where then judge him

allan macgregor springs to mind
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Old 20-09-08, 09:03   #8
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Re: Grof

Maybe a loan deal for the laddie would be best for him. He's certainly nowhere near ready for the first team as was proven against Morton in the cis
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Old 20-09-08, 10:59   #9
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Re: Grof

i hate him.
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Old 20-09-08, 11:06   #10
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Re: Grof

loan or sell. He aint competition for Mcneil or maka
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Old 20-09-08, 11:22   #11
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loan him out - this is the best grof thread ever! ;)
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Re: Grof

think you are being a bit hard on him, he has not been given the chance to show what he can do, after all he is only a young lad i say loan him out and then see what he can do cant be any worse than we have the now,
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Re: Grof

I would loan him out for a year, although his attitude apparently stinks, and some of his praise has been way over the top.
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Old 20-09-08, 14:06   #14
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think you are being a bit hard on him, he has not been given the chance to show what he can do, after all he is only a young lad i say loan him out and then see what he can do cant be any worse than we have the now,
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Yes he can. A certain Mr Malkowski springs to mind.
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Old 20-09-08, 15:17   #15
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Re: Grof

is this dislike of Grof due to anything in particular
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plenty players are "cocky wee shites" nothing wrong with a guy having confidence in his own ability as long as I am not reading his views in the papers all the time
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Hibs have been fairly proactive in recent years in getting younger players out on loan in the lower divisions to get them some experience

I am sure Mixu will do what's best for him... and Hibs
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Old 21-09-08, 21:29   #16
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Re: Grof

Hes not 17, hes 18. Grofy is not accully cocky at all. He has belief in his own ability and i think that is good for a keeper of his age. Grof has never came out to anybody and said look am the best am the big man. all he has said is he wants a proper chance. ffs hibs fans, dont judge him on a few apperiances. Confidence boost fans most off yous seem to be sayin "hes shite "and "i hate him". i have seen him play i the reserves and unders 19s and the first team and watched him since can to hibs in january 2006 and i no what he i capable of. Stop moaning about how much you hate him and give he lad a chance
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Re: Grof

i would loan him out but the problem with that is if makka or mcneil get injured them we have no cover
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Old 21-09-08, 21:51   #18
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we have tomas flyyn but hes only 17 and no double everyone will compline hes to young as always:L.
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Old 22-09-08, 03:35   #19
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Then we recall him from his loan.
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Re: Grof

Damn there are some hard to please Hibs fans on here. Just because you dont like a player why should the club release the lad. He obviously has potential otherwise for his age otherwise he wouldnt be at the club. Thats why big Maka was on Chelseas books he must have shown promise otherwise Chelsea wouldnt have signed him and same goes for McNeil at Southampton.

I totally agree that a loan move to another club would do him the world of good and gain him some valuable 1st team experience.

Also for what its worth I think Maka and McNeil are both good goalkeepers. Maka was on superb form before he got injured at the end of last season and I thought he was great against Dundee Utd the other week. McNeil too was great at the end of last season and saved us from a hammering against St Mirren and up at ICT he yet again saved us from a defeat.

IIRC did we not have the 3rd best defensive record last season, which is not bad considering how many goals probably could have been avoided by the defence taking a bit more responsibility (a game v St Mirren at Love St comes to mind where Jones should have just hoofed the ball into touch).

Compare them to some of the utter tosh keepers we have had over recent seasons - Ollie, Si Brown and of course Zibi! Im quite happy to have Maka and McNeil.

Lets face it as well there and not many other clubs in the SPL where the keepers is utterly brilliant week in week out. Langfield is prone to errors, Boruc is a dick and makes mistakes, Zaluska is same as Boruc, Hearts just love an imported keeper that makes the odd howler and even Allan McGregor is being dropped so I honestly dont see why we are making such a song and dance about the keeper situation.
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The change in attitude is fucking astonishing.
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Old 22-09-08, 13:03   #22
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I totally agree that a loan move to another club would do him the world of good and gain him some valuable 1st team experience.

Also for what its worth I think Maka and McNeil are both good goalkeepers. Maka was on superb form before he got injured at the end of last season and I thought he was great against Dundee Utd the other week. McNeil too was great at the end of last season and saved us from a hammering against St Mirren and up at ICT he yet again saved us from a defeat.


Compare them to some of the utter tosh keepers we have had over recent seasons - Ollie, Si Brown and of course Zibi! Im quite happy to have Maka and McNeil.

Lets face it as well there and not many other clubs in the SPL where the keepers is utterly brilliant week in week out. Langfield is prone to errors, Boruc is a dick and makes mistakes, Zaluska is same as Boruc, Hearts just love an imported keeper that makes the odd howler and even Allan McGregor is being dropped so I honestly dont see why we are making such a song and dance about the keeper situation.

agree. loaning him out is best for him and best for the club, obv his dad set a president and hopefully he's as good. but i think it would be a couple of years worth of loaning him out before he can be really considered to be challenging for the no 1 shirt. Maka is hitting form right now and hopefully mcneil works harder to win that spot. 2 good keepers right now is good for hibs.
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