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**wee 162** · 29-07-08, 11:11

What would your actual feelings be?

I'm not alone in mine after getting the same reaction from a couple of friends.

First of all, I'd think the board were a fecking disgrace for putting another manager into a position where he felt he had no options but to walk out. Letting that happen once is careless, to do it twice is incompetent. If it's for the same reasons as Collins, then it suggests we have a board who simply refuse to acknowledge their mistakes and learn from them. I'd also be deeply deeply concerned about their ability to attract anyone decent to the job.

Second of all though, I wouldn't be that disappointed if Mixu was to go
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I think the football we've played under him has been absolutely abysmal. And when I compare this pre-season to last years under Collins I'm frankly just shaking my head in disbelief. Last season you could see the plan in progressively harder games, loads of fitness work with Propos which seemed to be going great, and it set us up for a flier of a start to the league campaign. This season? No so much to put it mildly. In fact, the words "a fucking shambles" is the closest I can come to describing it. If you want to give yourself nightmares, I'd suggest trying to work out what our league position would have been without picking up 21 points in our first 9 games. This season we are starting with an almost inarguably weaker squad, imo a weaker manager tactically, and discontent amongst the support which is comparable to the tailend of Williamsons reign.

Smurf · 29-07-08, 11:15

Nothing to add to the OP.

mixu_dave · 29-07-08, 11:18

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What would your actual feelings be?

I'm not alone in mine after getting the same reaction from a couple of friends.

First of all, I'd think the board were a fecking disgrace for putting another manager into a position where he felt he had no options but to walk out. Letting that happen once is careless, to do it twice is incompetent. If it's for the same reasons as Collins, then it suggests we have a board who simply refuse to acknowledge their mistakes and learn from them. I'd also be deeply deeply concerned about their ability to attract anyone decent to the job.

Second of all though, I wouldn't be that disappointed if Mixu was to go
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I think the football we've played under him has been absolutely abysmal. And when I compare this pre-season to last years under Collins I'm frankly just shaking my head in disbelief. Last season you could see the plan in progressively harder games, loads of fitness work with Propos which seemed to be going great, and it set us up for a flier of a start to the league campaign. This season? No so much to put it mildly. In fact, the words "a fucking shambles" is the closest I can come to describing it. If you want to give yourself nightmares, I'd suggest trying to work out what our league position would have been without picking up 21 points in our first 9 games. This season we are starting with an almost inarguably weaker squad, imo a weaker manager tactically, and discontent amongst the support which is comparable to the tailend of Williamsons reign.

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Spot on Wee162, couldn't have phrased it better myself.

**Steve20** · 29-07-08, 11:20

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What would your actual feelings be?

I'm not alone in mine after getting the same reaction from a couple of friends.

First of all, I'd think the board were a fecking disgrace for putting another manager into a position where he felt he had no options but to walk out. Letting that happen once is careless, to do it twice is incompetent. If it's for the same reasons as Collins, then it suggests we have a board who simply refuse to acknowledge their mistakes and learn from them. I'd also be deeply deeply concerned about their ability to attract anyone decent to the job.

Second of all though, I wouldn't be that disappointed if Mixu was to go
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I think the football we've played under him has been absolutely abysmal. And when I compare this pre-season to last years under Collins I'm frankly just shaking my head in disbelief. Last season you could see the plan in progressively harder games, loads of fitness work with Propos which seemed to be going great, and it set us up for a flier of a start to the league campaign. This season? No so much to put it mildly. In fact, the words "a fucking shambles" is the closest I can come to describing it. If you want to give yourself nightmares, I'd suggest trying to work out what our league position would have been without picking up 21 points in our first 9 games. This season we are starting with an almost inarguably weaker squad, imo a weaker manager tactically, and discontent amongst the support which is comparable to the tailend of Williamsons reign.

Spot on.

Have had more than enough of this one up front and the constant long ball game.

Smurf · 29-07-08, 11:21

You do have to wonder though at just what has brought Mixu to the brink...

My thinking is that a player is being sold that Mixu doesn't want to lose. Mixu then asked how much he was getting of the sale and well we all know the answer...
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**striker9** · 29-07-08, 11:22

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What would your actual feelings be?

I'm not alone in mine after getting the same reaction from a couple of friends.

First of all, I'd think the board were a fecking disgrace for putting another manager into a position where he felt he had no options but to walk out. Letting that happen once is careless, to do it twice is incompetent. If it's for the same reasons as Collins, then it suggests we have a board who simply refuse to acknowledge their mistakes and learn from them. I'd also be deeply deeply concerned about their ability to attract anyone decent to the job.Second of all though, I wouldn't be that disappointed if Mixu was to go
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I think the football we've played under him has been absolutely abysmal. And when I compare this pre-season to last years under Collins I'm frankly just shaking my head in disbelief. Last season you could see the plan in progressively harder games, loads of fitness work with Propos which seemed to be going great, and it set us up for a flier of a start to the league campaign. This season? No so much to put it mildly. In fact, the words "a fucking shambles" is the closest I can come to describing it. If you want to give yourself nightmares, I'd suggest trying to work out what our league position would have been without picking up 21 points in our first 9 games. This season we are starting with an almost inarguably weaker squad, imo a weaker manager tactically, and discontent amongst the support which is comparable to the tailend of Williamsons reign.

We are going down the same road as hearts we will never get a good manager with the current board
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EasterToad · 29-07-08, 11:25

Are we forgetting the utter shambles that Collins presided over mid season? Word on the street is that RP refused to sanction 2.5k a week for JJ, and Mixu was understandably miffed. TBH I think Mixu will go at some point this season, managing this club is no easy task, and Mixu doesn't have the golden generation to fall back on like Mowbray. The kids I saw last night are not good enough by a long chalk.

**beefy** · 29-07-08, 11:25

Says it all wee162
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**Dinkydoo336** · 29-07-08, 11:27

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What would your actual feelings be?

I'm not alone in mine after getting the same reaction from a couple of friends.

First of all, I'd think the board were a fecking disgrace for putting another manager into a position where he felt he had no options but to walk out. Letting that happen once is careless, to do it twice is incompetent. If it's for the same reasons as Collins, then it suggests we have a board who simply refuse to acknowledge their mistakes and learn from them. I'd also be deeply deeply concerned about their ability to attract anyone decent to the job.

Second of all though, I wouldn't be that disappointed if Mixu was to go
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I think the football we've played under him has been absolutely abysmal. And when I compare this pre-season to last years under Collins I'm frankly just shaking my head in disbelief. Last season you could see the plan in progressively harder games, loads of fitness work with Propos which seemed to be going great, and it set us up for a flier of a start to the league campaign. This season? No so much to put it mildly. In fact, the words "a fucking shambles" is the closest I can come to describing it. If you want to give yourself nightmares, I'd suggest trying to work out what our league position would have been without picking up 21 points in our first 9 games. This season we are starting with an almost inarguably weaker squad, imo a weaker manager tactically, and discontent amongst the support which is comparable to the tailend of Williamsons reign.

Agreed
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Although Mixu SHOULD show a bit more faith and stay untill January at least. If he doesny then he obviously does not have as much affection for this club as he once said. Ok fair enough he has many good reasons to go. But if you truely care about the club, you would not abandon it 2 weeks before the season starts.

**JamieHibby** · 29-07-08, 11:27

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What would your actual feelings be?

I'm not alone in mine after getting the same reaction from a couple of friends.

First of all, I'd think the board were a fecking disgrace for putting another manager into a position where he felt he had no options but to walk out. Letting that happen once is careless, to do it twice is incompetent. If it's for the same reasons as Collins, then it suggests we have a board who simply refuse to acknowledge their mistakes and learn from them. I'd also be deeply deeply concerned about their ability to attract anyone decent to the job.

Second of all though, I wouldn't be that disappointed if Mixu was to go
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I think the football we've played under him has been absolutely abysmal. And when I compare this pre-season to last years under Collins I'm frankly just shaking my head in disbelief. Last season you could see the plan in progressively harder games, loads of fitness work with Propos which seemed to be going great, and it set us up for a flier of a start to the league campaign. This season? No so much to put it mildly. In fact, the words "a fucking shambles" is the closest I can come to describing it. If you want to give yourself nightmares, I'd suggest trying to work out what our league position would have been without picking up 21 points in our first 9 games. This season we are starting with an almost inarguably weaker squad, imo a weaker manager tactically, and discontent amongst the support which is comparable to the tailend of Williamsons reign.

Sums things up prefectly for me, Al

**Dub** · 29-07-08, 11:30

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What would your actual feelings be?

I'm not alone in mine after getting the same reaction from a couple of friends.

First of all, I'd think the board were a fecking disgrace for putting another manager into a position where he felt he had no options but to walk out. Letting that happen once is careless, to do it twice is incompetent. If it's for the same reasons as Collins, then it suggests we have a board who simply refuse to acknowledge their mistakes and learn from them. I'd also be deeply deeply concerned about their ability to attract anyone decent to the job.

Second of all though, I wouldn't be that disappointed if Mixu was to go
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I think the football we've played under him has been absolutely abysmal. And when I compare this pre-season to last years under Collins I'm frankly just shaking my head in disbelief. Last season you could see the plan in progressively harder games, loads of fitness work with Propos which seemed to be going great, and it set us up for a flier of a start to the league campaign. This season? No so much to put it mildly. In fact, the words "a fucking shambles" is the closest I can come to describing it. If you want to give yourself nightmares, I'd suggest trying to work out what our league position would have been without picking up 21 points in our first 9 games. This season we are starting with an almost inarguably weaker squad, imo a weaker manager tactically, and discontent amongst the support which is comparable to the tailend of Williamsons reign.

Agree with that Al.

**wee 162** · 29-07-08, 11:34

Sorry, meant to add that of course I would be disappointed if the end came for Mixu. I really want to be wrong about him. I don't consider him a legend by any manner or means for our club, but I will always be fond of him.

If I was someone who was prone to indulging in conspiracy theories (I am) to have a third one of our favourite sons completely shafted by the board in the space of 7 years could start to look like a plan of action rather than utter incompetence. Makes it kindae tough for someone to make an approach for taking over the club when everyone they could line up to be a new manager who would get the fans on that persons side is already damaged goods in the eyes of the support.

Gav · 29-07-08, 11:37

On a personal level he seems a good bloke and from that point of view I'd be sad to see him go. As a manager (at this point in his career anyway) he imo seems hopelessly out of his depth at a club the size of Hibs. It was clearly a big ask to have a relatively rookie manager rebuild the team after the great fire sale of the last couple of seasons. Perhaps he needed another couple of years learning the ropes elsewhere out of the glare of an SPL side.

If he does go tho' I'd be very apprehensive about who we might get in his place as I have no confidence in the Board to make the right appointment. The right appointment would mean not employing the "cheapest options" and I see no evidence that they'd be prepared to suddenly alter their prudent policies.

Doddie · 29-07-08, 11:42

... I dunno. I don't think he's the primary problem.

The primary problem is that we need someone who cares about football and the Hibs team as chairman.

We're way down the same road as the Yams, IMO.

Screwed.

**Dr Shrink** · 29-07-08, 11:50

Can't find anything to disagree with here............ and I've tried.

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boomtown green · 29-07-08, 12:02

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What would your actual feelings be?

I'm not alone in mine after getting the same reaction from a couple of friends.

First of all, I'd think the board were a fecking disgrace for putting another manager into a position where he felt he had no options but to walk out. Letting that happen once is careless, to do it twice is incompetent. If it's for the same reasons as Collins, then it suggests we have a board who simply refuse to acknowledge their mistakes and learn from them. I'd also be deeply deeply concerned about their ability to attract anyone decent to the job.

Second of all though, I wouldn't be that disappointed if Mixu was to go
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I think the football we've played under him has been absolutely abysmal. And when I compare this pre-season to last years under Collins I'm frankly just shaking my head in disbelief. Last season you could see the plan in progressively harder games, loads of fitness work with Propos which seemed to be going great, and it set us up for a flier of a start to the league campaign. This season? No so much to put it mildly. In fact, the words "a fucking shambles" is the closest I can come to describing it. If you want to give yourself nightmares, I'd suggest trying to work out what our league position would have been without picking up 21 points in our first 9 games. This season we are starting with an almost inarguably weaker squad, imo a weaker manager tactically, and discontent amongst the support which is comparable to the tailend of Williamsons reign.

Totally agree,the football we have played under mixu has been dreadful to watch where we struggle to put three passes together.
Also last season i remember the games against aberdeen and gretna at easter rd when we were two goals behind,at least under jc i thought we could come back into the game and even win it.But under mixu no such enthusiasm i'm afraid.

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wee 162 Bounce Flag Co-Owner Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sunny Leith Age: 34 Posts: 12,696 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 32 vCash: 500 Arcade Stats:	If Mixu was to go... What would your actual feelings be? I'm not alone in mine after getting the same reaction from a couple of friends. First of all, I'd think the board were a fecking disgrace for putting another manager into a position where he felt he had no options but to walk out. Letting that happen once is careless, to do it twice is incompetent. If it's for the same reasons as Collins, then it suggests we have a board who simply refuse to acknowledge their mistakes and learn from them. I'd also be deeply deeply concerned about their ability to attract anyone decent to the job. Second of all though, I wouldn't be that disappointed if Mixu was to go To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. I think the football we've played under him has been absolutely abysmal. And when I compare this pre-season to last years under Collins I'm frankly just shaking my head in disbelief. Last season you could see the plan in progressively harder games, loads of fitness work with Propos which seemed to be going great, and it set us up for a flier of a start to the league campaign. This season? No so much to put it mildly. In fact, the words "a fucking shambles" is the closest I can come to describing it. If you want to give yourself nightmares, I'd suggest trying to work out what our league position would have been without picking up 21 points in our first 9 games. This season we are starting with an almost inarguably weaker squad, imo a weaker manager tactically, and discontent amongst the support which is comparable to the tailend of Williamsons reign. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. quality='high' bgcolor='#006699' width='300' height='184' name='indecision_2008_action_item' align='middle' allowScriptAccess='always' allownetworking='external' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' pluginspage=' To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. who seek to be equal with men lack ambition.” Timothy Leary

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EasterToad Bounced Out! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Falkirk & Edinburgh Age: 40 Posts: 1,111 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 0 vCash: 500 Arcade Stats:	Re: If Mixu was to go... Are we forgetting the utter shambles that Collins presided over mid season? Word on the street is that RP refused to sanction 2.5k a week for JJ, and Mixu was understandably miffed. TBH I think Mixu will go at some point this season, managing this club is no easy task, and Mixu doesn't have the golden generation to fall back on like Mowbray. The kids I saw last night are not good enough by a long chalk. __________________ Arise Sir Albert Kidd

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