Is Hibs just a stepping stone? - HibeesBounce.com

Teebs · 14-05-08, 22:32

Since leaving Hibs there has been a few ex - hibees doing great things recently. eg.
Thomson and Whittaker in european final
Tony Mowbray winning championship and off to Premiership
Ivan Sproule In playoff to get to Premiership
Murphy and O'Conner in English premiership (Briefly tho)
Brown, O'Conner, Miller, and for some reason Caldwell Scotland squad regulars and Whittaker and Thomson recently getting in

It brings me to ask if Hibs just a stepping stone for players to better things?

***Decal Joe*** · 14-05-08, 22:36

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Since leaving Hibs there has been a few ex - hibees doing great things recently. eg.
Thomson and Whittaker in european final
Tony Mowbray winning championship and off to Premiership
Ivan Sproule In playoff to get to Premiership
Murphy and O'Conner in English premiership (Briefly tho)
Brown, O'Conner, Miller, and for some reason Caldwell Scotland squad regulars and Whittaker and Thomson recently getting in

It brings me to ask if Hibs just a stepping stone for players to better things?

Yes

blue toon hibby · 14-05-08, 22:40

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Since leaving Hibs there has been a few ex - hibees doing great things recently. eg.
Thomson and Whittaker in european final
Tony Mowbray winning championship and off to Premiership
Ivan Sproule In playoff to get to Premiership
Murphy and O'Conner in English premiership (Briefly tho)
Brown, O'Conner, Miller, and for some reason Caldwell Scotland squad regulars and Whittaker and Thomson recently getting in

It brings me to ask if Hibs just a stepping stone for players to better things?

Has been for as long as I can remember - if they're good enough, they'll move on to bigger things and who can blame them?

ROSSCO1875 · 14-05-08, 22:47

Most clubs are stepping stones.

Every player aspires to be at the top level. Only the really major clubs are not stepping stones. Who is to say that the old firm isn't a stepping stone, Thomson , Brown and Whittiker etc will want to end up at a top premiership club at somepoint.

If i was a football player one of the best moments of my career would be to pull on the green and white of Hibs, but if say Arsenal or even a team like Everton would come in for me i would be off.

Its what football is about, some say it's all to do with money but for some players, even the most loyal eg, O'Connor want to move on to achieve bigger and better things in their career.

Remember though, as a fan, not a player, Hibs are not a stepping stone. This is as good as it gets, to us Hibs are the club that will always matter most
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GGTTH

***Dr Shrink*** · 14-05-08, 23:04

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Yes

What he said.

Obviously.

Greenmachine · 14-05-08, 23:11

As long as there are bigger and wealthier clubs around, Hibs will always be a stepping stone. In that respect we are no different to about 90% of all football clubs in the world. Real Madrid, Man United, Barcelona, AC Milan are all wealthy enough to attract and keep just about any player they want, but for Hibs and the rest of us, we just have to ensure that we make the most of having good players at our respective clubs. The key thing is to achieve something whilst you have a good team as Hibs did spectacularly in March last year.

I have no problems with any player leaving Hibs for a bigger club. It is the natural order of things in football that bigger clubs will buy players from smaller clubs as Hibs have just done with Van Zanten. Hibs just have to ensure that we get the most out of those players whilst they are at Easter Road, and as I say hopefully help the club to win trophies during the time they are with us.

HibeeZab · 14-05-08, 23:34

Yes. Hibernian are not at the top of world/european/british/scottish football so of course we are. Any player who's aspirations don't go beyond the top 6 in Scotland surely has to have a look at themself. Hibs may be as high as some players ever get on the football ladder, or may be a distant dream to others, but for guys like Fletcher or Thomson or Brown (etc.) this is the club they learn their trade. As a club we have to get the best out of these guys who come through the youth system before selling them at the highest price in order to re-invest, and also take the best talent from the clubs below as (i.e. van Zanten, Rankin & Nish).

nabser · 14-05-08, 23:42

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It brings me to ask if Hibs just a stepping stone for players to better things?

Always have been always will be.

***beefy*** · 14-05-08, 23:54

Who was the last guy to get a testimonial at Hibs?

***Smurf*** · 15-05-08, 00:00

Of course we are!

I've no difficulty with players moving on to earn more money and progress their career.

As long as we are suitably compensated and reinvest sensibly the compensation.

What pisses me off is players maybe not good enough for us who think they're better than us..

weedgiehibbie · 15-05-08, 00:14

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Who was the last guy to get a testimonial at Hibs?

Gordon Hunter i think, Joe T, McGinlay and Mitchell from the same era all came close to getting one but as far as im aware Hunter was the last

MisterHibster · 15-05-08, 00:22

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Since leaving Hibs there has been a few ex - hibees doing great things recently. eg.
Thomson and Whittaker in european final
Tony Mowbray winning championship and off to Premiership
Ivan Sproule In playoff to get to Premiership
Murphy and O'Conner in English premiership (Briefly tho)
Brown, O'Conner, Miller, and for some reason Caldwell Scotland squad regulars and Whittaker and Thomson recently getting in

It brings me to ask if Hibs just a stepping stone for players to better things?

you've only just realised this??

***beefy*** · 15-05-08, 00:33

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Gordon Hunter i think, Joe T, McGinlay and Mitchell from the same era all came close to getting one but as far as im aware Hunter was the last

Cheers but i have a complete memory blank
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Who/When???

weedgiehibbie · 15-05-08, 00:49

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Cheers but i have a complete memory blank
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Who/When???

V Gordon Strachan's Coventry - Strachan played a half for hibs i think, i wasnt at the game so im trying to remember match reports in the following match day programme, hibs won 3-2 and it was 96ish i think, someone will no doubt be along later with more details

TommyPreston · 15-05-08, 01:05

Unless you are Man Utd, Real Madrid, Barca and to a certain extent Liverpool and Milan. Then you (the club) will always be a stepping stone. The exception is the dyed in the wool fan (Gordon Hunter or G MacKay) or clown that nobody else wants (Paul McStay)

***beefy*** · 15-05-08, 01:10

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V Gordon Strachan's Coventry - Strachan played a half for hibs i think, i wasnt at the game so im trying to remember match reports in the following match day programme, hibs won 3-2 and it was 96ish i think, someone will no doubt be along later with more details

Cheers again wh
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bigmanandy · 15-05-08, 01:11

Yes.

Razormaid · 15-05-08, 04:36

No!!! Playing for the Hibs is glory in itself!
What's the matter with the rest of you, fair weather fans!
Never a stepping stone-- Hibs are the top for me, always. It's why I choose to follow them.

MisterHibster · 15-05-08, 08:21

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No!!! Playing for the Hibs is glory in itself!
What's the matter with the rest of you, fair weather fans!
Never a stepping stone-- Hibs are the top for me, always. It's why I choose to follow them.

the question was about players, not supporters! don't think any of us are planning to trade in hibs for celtic or rangers any time soon.

MikeyG · 15-05-08, 08:53

Will we give O'Connor abuse when he plays at Ibrox next season next to Whittaker and Thompson.
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***Dr Shrink*** · 15-05-08, 09:25

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Will we give O'Connor abuse when he plays at Ibrox next season next to Whittaker and Thompson.
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All huns get a bit of abuse.

The real vitriol is reserved for Katey and the likes of Ratboy.

I don't think Whittaker or Gary O (if he becomes a hun) has done anything to warrant more than 'normal hun level' abuse.

***Stirlinghibee*** · 15-05-08, 11:43

Funnily enough, It seems to me that every club in the world is a "stepping stone" if someone else offers you more money.

Look at the Gunner's in England? They have lost Flamini to AC Milan. Can you get a bigger club than Arsenal? Brand new £350,000,000 stadium filled every home game. The best supported club in Europes biggest city?

I honestly think the biggest transfer of all time will happen either this summer or next. Ronaldo to Real Madrid. Remember, Glazer, not Fergie, is the bottom line. Would Christiano turn down a £12 million signing on fee and 250,000 GBP per week?

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ROSSCO1875 Babyshambles Radge Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: edinburgh Posts: 252 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 4 vCash: 5000 Arcade Stats:	Re: Is Hibs just a stepping stone? Most clubs are stepping stones. Every player aspires to be at the top level. Only the really major clubs are not stepping stones. Who is to say that the old firm isn't a stepping stone, Thomson , Brown and Whittiker etc will want to end up at a top premiership club at somepoint. If i was a football player one of the best moments of my career would be to pull on the green and white of Hibs, but if say Arsenal or even a team like Everton would come in for me i would be off. Its what football is about, some say it's all to do with money but for some players, even the most loyal eg, O'Connor want to move on to achieve bigger and better things in their career. Remember though, as a fan, not a player, Hibs are not a stepping stone. This is as good as it gets, to us Hibs are the club that will always matter most To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. GGTTH

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Greenmachine A True Gadgie/Gadgess Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Edinburgh Age: 44 Posts: 4,662 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Rep Power: 11 vCash: 5000 Arcade Stats:	Re: Is Hibs just a stepping stone? As long as there are bigger and wealthier clubs around, Hibs will always be a stepping stone. In that respect we are no different to about 90% of all football clubs in the world. Real Madrid, Man United, Barcelona, AC Milan are all wealthy enough to attract and keep just about any player they want, but for Hibs and the rest of us, we just have to ensure that we make the most of having good players at our respective clubs. The key thing is to achieve something whilst you have a good team as Hibs did spectacularly in March last year. I have no problems with any player leaving Hibs for a bigger club. It is the natural order of things in football that bigger clubs will buy players from smaller clubs as Hibs have just done with Van Zanten. Hibs just have to ensure that we get the most out of those players whilst they are at Easter Road, and as I say hopefully help the club to win trophies during the time they are with us. __________________ Today is a gift, that's why it's called the present.

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