Mixu's done ok but is he the new Bobby?

[Haruki]

Right, I don't live in Edinburgh. I live in Wick.

So I should really be a sheep or, far worse, OF glory hunter. But I' was born in Dun Eidann. On Easter Sunday. So...

And I'm glad. Think Hibs represent everything I agree with. Style, class and open mindedness to name but a few traits.

So I need to ask, Is Mixu the new BobbyW? Yes, he's turned our season round but style seems to have evaporated?

I liked McLeish with latapy et al doing 6-2. I liked Tone's cavalire brilliance. I liked JC passing the hun off the pitch at hun-box.

But Hibs are Hibs. I can sacrifrice results for doing it the hibs way. Can Mixu? Tell me?

[wee 162]

Originally Posted by camthebam
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Right, I don't live in Edinburgh. I live in Wick.

So I should really be a sheep or, far worse, OF glory hunter. But I' was born in Dun Eidann. On Easter Sunday. So...

And I'm glad. Think Hibs represent everything I agree with. Style, class and open mindedness to name but a few traits.

So I need to ask, Is Mixu the new BobbyW? Yes, he's turned our season round but style seems to have evaporated?

I liked McLeish with latapy et al doing 6-2. I liked Tone's cavalire brilliance. I liked JC passing the hun off the pitch at hun-box.

But Hibs are Hibs. I can sacrifrice results for doing it the hibs way. Can Mixu? Tell me?

If someone can show me how we can win the league the Hearts way (and their record of three leagues in the last hunner years is something I'd ask anyone who suggests it to look at) I might buy into it.

Otherwise, fuck it. We probably have two games left at ER this season. Today was game 1 of 3 for me about whether or not I buy a st next year. If there aren't two monumentally better attempts to play football than today I won't be getting a ST next year. In absolutely all likeliehood I'll be at every game at ER next season as usual whether I buy one or not, but it's just going to have to be a tiny token protest at this style of fitba. It's fucking horrible to watch atm.

[Haruki]

Originally Posted by wee 162
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If someone can show me how we can win the league the Hearts way (and their record of three leagues in the last hunner years is something I'd ask anyone who suggests it to look at) I might buy into it.

Otherwise, fuck it. We probably have two games left at ER this season. Today was game 1 of 3 for me about whether or not I buy a st next year. If there aren't two monumentally better attempts to play football than today I won't be getting a ST next year. In absolutely all likeliehood I'll be at every game at ER next season as usual whether I buy one or not, but it's just going to have to be a tiny token protest at this style of fitba. It's fucking horrible to watch atm.

My fears confirmed.
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Bring on the Hearts next season though :YAYYY:

[Boogy]

I think the jury's still out boys. I've always advocated playing football in the last third, which we are still doing to a certain degree? It's not quite Jamboo hoofball just yet. However, WHEN they were winning Scotish Cups and finishing 3rd in league - - did you ever hear their fans complaining about the lack of football played at the PBS....? Maybe we have to adapt?
Silky soccer is one thing, but I'd much rather see eleven hairy arsed weight lifters kick Hearts off the park, dominate for ninety minutes, wipe their willies on a rag and leave-type win than getting shafted by the likes of Brellier and Velicka.

Thing is - for years on this board we have cried out for a 'decent target man'...now we have one. We've long been needing a bit of midfield muscle, and in Ian Murray we have that...........so.....???

[wee 162]

Originally Posted by Boogy
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I think the jury's still out boys. I've always advocated playing football in the last third, which we are still doing to a certain degree? It's not quite Jamboo hoofball just yet. However, WHEN they were winning Scotish Cups and finishing 3rd in league - - did you ever hear their fans complaining about the lack of football played at the PBS....? Maybe we have to adapt?
Silky soccer is one thing, but I'd much rather see eleven hairy arsed weight lifters kick Hearts off the park, dominate for ninety minutes, wipe their willies on a rag and leave-type win than getting shafted by the likes of Brellier and Velicka.

Thing is - for years on this board we have cried out for a 'decent target man'...now we have one. We've long been needing a bit of midfield muscle, and in Ian Murray we have that...........so.....???

No. I didn't.

And that's one of the reasons why I support Hibs and not Hearts.

[Hibernia]

I dont think you can compare Blobby (one of our worst managers ever) and Mixu and lets not forget before he came in at the start of the year we were on a severe slide down the table thanks to the previous management and he really had no time to wheel and deal in the transfer market to make his own mark on a squad that to me was poorly put together by Collins and Craig.

Take yesterdays match against St Mirren we score to peachy goals and granted we had Andy McNeil to thank for 4 great saves to help us get 3 points. However I firmly believe that under previous regimes we would have lost that match.

If we get 3 points by winning ugly at this moment in time I will take it as long as we are still in the hunt for European football and 3rd place.

[GalegoHibs]

Originally Posted by Hibernia
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I dont think you can compare Blobby (one of our worst managers ever) and Mixu and lets not forget before he came in at the start of the year we were on a severe slide down the table thanks to the previous management and he really had no time to wheel and deal in the transfer market to make his own mark on a squad that to me was poorly put together by Collins and Craig.

Take yesterdays match against St Mirren we score to peachy goals and granted we had Andy McNeil to thank for 4 great saves to help us get 3 points. However I firmly believe that under previous regimes we would have lost that match.

If we get 3 points by winning ugly at this moment in time I will take it as long as we are still in the hunt for European football and 3rd place.

I think you're the first person I've heard mention on here the fact we scored two great goals yesterday. Zem's in particular was a goal that in the darker days of the past, we'd have been talking about for the rest of the season and beyond. Instead, it seems to have been almost forgotten in the clamour to have a go at our style of play and/or Mixu.

This may not be a popular view but I think that many myths have sprung up surrounding our general style of play over the last thirty years. Yes, there have been periods of style and panache, but I don't recall too many under Duffy, Auld or Miller to name a few. And the latter was around for a long time. Even the likes of Stanton and Blackley didn't exactly have the team playing with anywhere near the style of the side they played in, as I recall it.

Williamson is far from alone in that respect. As for Mixu, give the guy a chance.
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[madkink]

question and i want a straight answer,

if Mixu had not come to ER when he did, would we still be in a chance off Europe, or would we get our derby, but in the bottom six,

I think it would have been the latter, he has taken a team in a nosedive and brought us back up, so fuck he did it with some 'ugly' football, but the whole point off this game is TO WIN not out sexy your opposing team

[SKII]

Originally Posted by GalegoHibs
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This may not be a popular view but I think that many myths have sprung up surrounding our general style of play over the last thirty years.

An interesting thought. The Yams certainly seem to piss take the theory that we've always been the flair team.
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That said, it is all relative and they most certainly have been the industrial football team for at least 3 decades
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Yes, there have been periods of style and panache, but I don't recall too many under Duffy

We had a few weeks of forty yard goals at the start of that debacle season
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But it soon went Paul Tosh
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Auld

Without doubt imho the worst era I have watched as a Hibs fan. Without peer. Even Blobby didnt come close.
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or Miller to name a few.

Certain seasons in the Miller reign WERE good. It tends to get lost in the midsts of a decade of fighting mid-table crises. The team that had Michael O'Neill on the left wing, Crunchie on the right, Darren Jackson, Keith Wright and so on was very entertaining in its time. Hibs playing with two proper wingers :YAYYY:

Even the likes of Stanton and Blackley didn't exactly have the team playing with anywhere near the style of the side they played in, as I recall it.

Stanton's reign as manager is probably best forgotten. Sloop's was a bit of an odd one. The football was not purist stuff but there were certainly a lot of goals (from Cowan and Durie) and a cup final disappointment (statutory). I enjoyed the League Cup run though
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Williamson is far from alone in that respect.

What yer saying is that us auld farts ken how bad it can really be
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Derek Rodier and Stuart Turnbull
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[GalegoHibs]

Originally Posted by SKII
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1. Certain seasons in the Miller reign WERE good. It tends to get lost in the midsts of a decade of fighting mid-table crises. The team that had Michael O'Neill on the left wing, Crunchie on the right, Darren Jackson, Keith Wright and so on was very entertaining in its time. Hibs playing with two proper wingers :YAYYY:


2. What yer saying is that us auld farts ken how bad it can really be
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1. Fair point. I was going to mention this as I do recall the O'Neill-Mcallister era with some fondness. But I did say it didn't recall "too many stylish periods" under Miller.

2. Not really. I just don't get it because some of the people coming out with this stuff are not much younger than me and have probably been to ER more times than I have.
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[500miles]

The current footballing style is a means to an end - ie. winning games at the business end of the season. Despite attempting to play football under TM and JC at this stage of the season, we rarely played anything worth watching, probably due to the pitches cutting up, injuries and fatigue setting in and the fact that teams were getting desperate for points and dragging us into dogfights. Mixu has adapted the way we play to get around these factors. Don't forget the fact that there has been so much change since Mixu came in - it isn't fair to judge him as the team isn't fully settled yet.

[LSHS]

Originally Posted by wee 162
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If someone can show me how we can win the league the Hearts way (and their record of three leagues in the last hunner years is something I'd ask anyone who suggests it to look at) I might buy into it.

Otherwise, fuck it. We probably have two games left at ER this season. Today was game 1 of 3 for me about whether or not I buy a st next year. If there aren't two monumentally better attempts to play football than today I won't be getting a ST next year. In absolutely all likeliehood I'll be at every game at ER next season as usual whether I buy one or not, but it's just going to have to be a tiny token protest at this style of fitba. It's fucking horrible to watch atm.

Looks like you are looking for a get out of buying a season ticket. Mixu has got us in with a chance of third after taking over from the shambles that was John Collins.He signed Nish who together with Fletcher at least gave us a decent strike force. We still have a lot of improving to do particularly at full back and wide midfield areas which I am sure the manager knows.He could have continued with youngsters like Stevenson, McCann, Lynch etc who are good young players but would not have got us back up the table.We need as many season ticket sales as possible to contiue the progress of our club.

[James.g]

Been going to see hibs for nearly 30 years and the majority of that time the football has been, well best forgotten apart from a couple seasons under miller(and only a couple) but under eck its the best sustained seasons i can remember, Tonys time he was forced to use a lot of young guys and some turned out to be diamonds, great going forward painful to watch at the back most of the time, JC time apart from couple great results fecking disaster IMO, Dont think i could bare to watch the boring shit of old cause i was not fortunate enough to see the truly great sides at ER but i still want to see my team play in a certain entertaining way and i'm hoping with the kind of player big mixu was he'll entertain us with his team when he puts it together.

[Nefu]

Originally Posted by camthebam
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Right, I don't live in Edinburgh. I live in Wick.

So I should really be a sheep or, far worse, OF glory hunter. But I' was born in Dun Eidann. On Easter Sunday. So...

And I'm glad. Think Hibs represent everything I agree with. Style, class and open mindedness to name but a few traits.

So I need to ask, Is Mixu the new BobbyW? Yes, he's turned our season round but style seems to have evaporated?

I liked McLeish with latapy et al doing 6-2. I liked Tone's cavalire brilliance. I liked JC passing the hun off the pitch at hun-box.

But Hibs are Hibs. I can sacrifrice results for doing it the hibs way. Can Mixu? Tell me?

What Mixu has done for us in this small period of time is remarkable IMO hes taken over a team of someone else's players with a team spirit of fuckin zero ,got us into the top 6 with a chance of Europe which I don't think we will get and this thread compairs him to the worst Hibs manager in my life time of being a Hibs supporter unbelievable , I hope Mixu doesn't read the bounce because he certainly doesn't need shite like this .
Let him get some more of his players in then decide .
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GGTTH

[Thomson_19]

Overall we have been grim to watch, really grim infact but under Mixu we have scored some fine team goals (Inverness at Easter Road spring to mind straight away)

I really hope right now Mixu is only pissing with the cock he has and in the summer will be looking to buy better cocks to do nicer pishes more often next season.
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[1875steve]

I liked McLeish with latapy et al doing 6-2. I liked Tone's cavalire brilliance. I liked JC passing the hun off the pitch at hun-box.

But Hibs are Hibs

What's the point in winning 6-2 and winning nowt??????

I can sacrifrice results for doing it the hibs way. Can Mixu? Tell me?

You are kidding right??

So you would see rather us winning in spectacular style half the time, that us winning every game 1-0, boring as ferk and winning a treble???
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So I need to ask, Is Mixu the new BobbyW? Yes, he's turned our season round but style seems to have evaporated?

When Mixu came in we were bottom six cannon fodder, we are now challenging for Europe, aye bring back the "style football" that had us 9th.

[snoots]

There isn't a manager worth his salt is going to arrive in Scotland in the middle of winter and ask never mind get his players to play silky espansive football. We'd be just above Gretna if he'd tried that. He's had to toughen up the side and grind points, that's percentage stuff, he's actually done the right thing. The players heads were/are all over the place as well. It took Eddie Turnball 18 months and McLeish 2 and half years before we decent.

[James.g]

Dont think many if any would disagree that winning is what really matters to us,but if along the way we do it with style and entertain then thats just an added bonus,you tend to see teams that win most times are entertainin to watch and pleasing on the eye, when we played under eck and tony and the football was no bad we were hardly cannon foder, we had no bad players and especially under eck good to watch and hard to beat cause the balance was right, under blobby he told us his teams job wasn't to entertain, and we were shit to watch and not very hard to beat, IMO it comes down to the manager and how he wants to play and i dont see mixu as the type to sit back and afraid to take chances, he's no had long enough for any of us to judge him yet.

[chez]

I think it is a bit early to make any judgement of Mixu just now. Lets see what happens after the summer and he has had the time to build up the team and then make it. No one surely could be like Bobby, however, if Mixu does end up like him, I can see a Yogi Hughes thread on here again.