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Old 16-03-08, 22:43   #1
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Fletcher v Riordan

Riordan had scored 11 goals for Hibs before his 21st birthday. Fletch has scored 42 and he won't turn 21 for another 10 days.

I said that Riordan was the best of the lot, but I reckon Fletcher is even better. However, I think Damon Gray might be even better still.
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Old 16-03-08, 22:47   #2
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Re: Fletcher v Riordan

Another comparison, Garry O' Connor had scored 24.
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Re: Fletcher v Riordan

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Riordan had scored 11 goals for Hibs before his 21st birthday. Fletch has scored 42 and he won't turn 21 for another 10 days.

I said that Riordan was the best of the lot, but I reckon Fletcher is even better. However, I think Damon Gray might be even better still.
Intersting statistic, Bobby but how do their goals to games ratios compare within that time frame? How many appearances did each make?
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Re: Fletcher v Riordan

Different kinds of players.

Riordan a better finisher IMO.

Fletch more athletic. It's quite scarey how young Fletch is though..
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Re: Fletcher v Riordan

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Intersting statistic, Bobby but how do their goals to games ratios compare within that time frame? How many appearances did each make?
Both Riordan and O' Connor had played much fewer games, I'll total them and post them up tomorrow.

Fletch has started 92 games and came on as sub in another 53 a total of 145 appearances.
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Re: Fletcher v Riordan

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Both Riordan and O' Connor had played much fewer games, I'll total them and post them up tomorrow.

Fletch has started 92 games and came on as sub in another 53 a total of 145 appearances.

As i thought - no disrespect to Fletcher but I think Riordan is the more natural goalscorer albeit perhaps less of a team-player.
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Intersting statistic, Bobby but how do their goals to games ratios compare within that time frame? How many appearances did each make?
Riordan would've made around 40 appearences before he turned 21 & scored about 15 goals including 3 for Cowdenbeath on loan.

By around the same number of appearances Fletcher scored about 6.

I think.
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Re: Fletcher v Riordan

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Riordan would've made around 40 appearences before he turned 21 & scored about 15 goals including 3 for Cowdenbeath on loan.

By around the same number of appearances Fletcher scored about 6.

I think.
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Re: Fletcher v Riordan

Neither Riordan nor O'Connor had to do as much "teamwork" as Fletch has. They were protected to far greater extent, and also had the benefit of more experienced players at the club than Fletch has had.

Given the number of games Fletch has HAD to play, and who he has played with, his scoring record is quite remarkable. A better all round player and a better "finisher" than either Riordan or Garry O IMHO.
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Re: Fletcher v Riordan

Fletch has played 144 games thus far & scored 41 goals. Riordan played 146 games in total for Hibs & scored 64 goals.

Dunno if that helps either.
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Re: Fletcher v Riordan

I think there both top players for a start. I think fletchers stronger and more of a team player than deek. Also for fletchers age, he is a reasonibly experianced player in the SPL. Deek is the better finisher tho, with TWO feet so hard call but I prefer fletcher just because i dont think he'll do the dirty on us for a while yet.

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Re: Fletcher v Riordan

Deek had by far the worst haircut.

Fletch has bigger ears.


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Re: Fletcher v Riordan

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Fletch has played 144 games thus far & scored 41 goals. Riordan played 146 games in total for Hibs & scored 64 goals.

Dunno if that helps either.
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Re: Fletcher v Riordan

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Given the number of games Fletch has HAD to play, and who he has played with, his scoring record is quite remarkable. A better all round player and a better "finisher" than either Riordan or Garry O IMHO.
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Re: Fletcher v Riordan

Here's a breakdown of all three up to their 21st birthday (Hibs goals only)

D Riordan
23 starts 21 subs 11 goals

G O' Connor
66 starts 24 subs 24 goals

S Fletcher
92 starts 45 subs 42 goals

I don't recall O' Connor ever playing in midfield as both Riordan and Fletcher have, but Riordan & O' Connor didn't have the competition for places when breaking through that Fletcher has had.
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Re: Fletcher v Riordan

The thing which I found impressive about Riordan as opposed to the other two is that he was never anything but consistent with us. He didn't have the tricky season that O'Connor had in Williamsons last year, or that Fletcher had last season. That may be because he came into the side later than the other two did in fairness.

Fletcher gives you more in terms of an all round game than Riordan, and is going to be a bit better than O'Connor in that respect as well imo. What he doesn't do is give you the completely out of the blue goals that Riordan scored an awful lot of for us.

So Fletcher might well be the best all round player, Riordan was a better player technique wise imo.
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Re: Fletcher v Riordan

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The thing which I found impressive about Riordan as opposed to the other two is that he was never anything but consistent with us. He didn't have the tricky season that O'Connor had in Williamsons last year, or that Fletcher had last season. That may be because he came into the side later than the other two did in fairness.

Fletcher gives you more in terms of an all round game than Riordan, and is going to be a bit better than O'Connor in that respect as well imo. What he doesn't do is give you the completely out of the blue goals that Riordan scored an awful lot of for us.

So Fletcher might well be the best all round player, Riordan was a better player technique wise imo.
I would agree with all of the above.
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Re: Fletcher v Riordan

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Here's a breakdown of all three up to their 21st birthday (Hibs goals only)

D Riordan
23 starts 21 subs 11 goals

G O' Connor
66 starts 24 subs 24 goals

S Fletcher
92 starts 45 subs 42 goals

I don't recall O' Connor ever playing in midfield as both Riordan and Fletcher have, but Riordan & O' Connor didn't have the competition for places when breaking through that Fletcher has had.
Their goals to games ratio are all pretty similar. Let's be honest, we're lucky to have seen such talented young Scottish strikers come through the ranks at ER. Who have the Yams had in recent years??? Callum Elliott???
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Re: Fletcher v Riordan

but then again we had Tam McCmanus playing up front and O'connor or Brewster if i remember correct but your statistics are great Fletchers amazing imagine both of them upfront along with Nish nodding the ball on 4-3-3 formation would be amazing
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Neither Riordan nor O'Connor had to do as much "teamwork" as Fletch has. They were protected to far greater extent, and also had the benefit of more experienced players at the club than Fletch has had.

Given the number of games Fletch has HAD to play, and who he has played with, his scoring record is quite remarkable. A better all round player and a better "finisher" than either Riordan or Garry O IMHO.
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Re: Fletcher v Riordan

Riordan was and still is IMO a better 'finisher' than Fletcher.
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Re: Fletcher v Riordan

true but fletchers going to go much further i think he might avoid celtic or Rangers thanks to Riordans misfortune
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