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aggie · 13-03-08, 01:09

Could potentially be grim for us..?

http://sport.scotsman.com/spl/Gretna...n39.3872845.jp

Suggests that their records would be wiped and the league recalculated. Considering we've taken six points off them, that's surely bad news for us. Pretty sure Dundde utd drew with them at least once, not sure about Well..

stephenfc · 13-03-08, 01:15

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Originally Posted by aggie

Could potentially be grim for us..?

http://sport.scotsman.com/spl/Gretna...n39.3872845.jp

Suggests that their records would be wiped and the league recalculated. Considering we've taken six points off them, that's surely bad news for us. Pretty sure Dundde utd drew with them at least once, not sure about Well..

Would that make 11th placed releagated ?

aggie · 13-03-08, 01:20

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Originally Posted by stephenfc

Would that make 11th placed releagated ?

Good point- dunno though. Glad I don't have to feckin decide like, cos a few teams are gonna be mucho pissed off whatever happens.

stephenfc · 13-03-08, 01:28

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Originally Posted by aggie

Good point- dunno though. Glad I don't have to feckin decide like, cos a few teams are gonna be mucho pissed off whatever happens.

I heard if every1 loses the points that they won of gretna, celtic go joint top with the huns ???

Canny 1 tell me if theres any truth in this

uncle bulgaria · 13-03-08, 01:35

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Originally Posted by stephenfc

I heard if every1 loses the points that they won of gretna, celtic go joint top with the huns ???

Canny 1 tell me if theres any truth in this

I believe they'd go a point or two below los hunos.

I actually hope this is true because I couldn't see Rangers letting it lie.

And, under that regime we'd be another club who would suffer badly.

Mind you, if rules are rules... seems tight to punish clubs who have won games though.

stephenfc · 13-03-08, 01:37

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Originally Posted by uncle bulgaria

I believe they'd go a point or two below los hunos.

I actually hope this is true because I couldn't see Rangers letting it lie.

And, under that regime we'd be another club who would suffer badly.

Mind you, if rules are rules... seems tight to punish clubs who have won games though.

Hmm bad news then....maybe us effected clubs should pull together and get gretna to the end of the season !

**Bampotto** · 13-03-08, 03:39

I can guarantee you that if it means trouble between the old firm then it will not happen. The SFA/SPL cannot afford to give one team a boost over another. It just won't happen.

uncle bulgaria · 13-03-08, 04:26

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Originally Posted by Bampotto

I can guarantee you that if it means trouble between the old firm then it will not happen. The SFA/SPL cannot afford to give one team a boost over another. It just won't happen.

Agreed Bampotto, but if it is laid down as a rule then an almighty mess is around the corner one way or another.

**shandongreen** · 13-03-08, 05:36

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Originally Posted by stephenfc

Would that make 11th placed releagated ?

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Originally Posted by stephenfc

I heard if every1 loses the points that they won of gretna, celtic go joint top with the huns ???

Canny 1 tell me if theres any truth in this

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Originally Posted by Bampotto

I can guarantee you that if it means trouble between the old firm then it will not happen. The SFA/SPL cannot afford to give one team a boost over another. It just won't happen.

No,means no relegation but an unequal lower division.

On Radio Scotland it stated...

OF both 59 pts

Hibs 34 pts

Yams n Falkirk 31

utd n well out of sight and bottom six more likely than europe,in saying that surely this will stop it happening.

**Gunnerhibby** · 13-03-08, 06:36

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Originally Posted by shandongreen

No,means no relegation but an unequal lower division.

On Radio Scotland it stated...

OF both 59 pts

Hibs 34 pts

Yams n Falkirk 31

utd n well out of sight and bottom six more likely than europe,in saying that surely this will stop it happening.

This is why I canny see it happening, and an "unknown benefactor" of Hunnish persuasion will come up with the dosh that keeps them afloat until the end of the season, or at least until the split kicks in and Celtc have played an equal amount of games with them..

**hibbill2002** · 13-03-08, 07:30

murdo mcleod made a suggestion last night, give every team that still have to play gretna the 3 points.

**Weehibbydrew** · 13-03-08, 07:37

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Originally Posted by aggie

Could potentially be grim for us..?

http://sport.scotsman.com/spl/Gretna...n39.3872845.jp

Suggests that their records would be wiped and the league recalculated. Considering we've taken six points off them, that's surely bad news for us. Pretty sure Dundde utd drew with them at least once, not sure about Well..

Haven't we taken 9pts off these imposters?

**Norwayhibs** · 13-03-08, 07:39

http://sport.scotsman.com/spl/Gretna...n39.3872845.jp

As others on this thread have said I dont think they would dare take back points from the clubs who have beaten Gretna.The potential uproar from the OF virtually guarantees this not happening.

HibeeCraig7062 · 13-03-08, 07:44

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Originally Posted by Weehibbydrew

Haven't we taken 9pts off these imposters?

Yeah we have so therefore our points tally would be 35 pts. With Dundee utd on 43 pts cos they were too Sh*t to beat them more than once this season

vasco de gama · 13-03-08, 08:46

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Originally Posted by Norwayhibs

http://sport.scotsman.com/spl/Gretna...n39.3872845.jp

As others on this thread have said I dont think they would dare take back points from the clubs who have beaten Gretna.The potential uproar from the OF virtually guarantees this not happening.

Neither of the OF have lost any points to Gretna - it's just that Celtic have still to play them once - with Gretna's current form / situation I think even the most blue-nose of blue-noses isn't gonna claim a major Vatican conspriacy is going on if the points are stripped or wins given to Gretna's opponents for the remaining games. The teams that really would benefit are Dundee Utd, Hertz, Falkirk, Killie and Aberdeen - so it's whether Motherwell and Hibs can make a big enough fuss that matters.

Smurf · 13-03-08, 09:04

If this happens the SPL will be the laughing stock of the world.

The SPL should IMO cover their costs in order to fulfill their fixtures.

Surely there should also be a financial structure criteria for clubs membership of the SPL?

I predict a same scenario this time next season when the Yams go tits up..

**wee 162** · 13-03-08, 09:08

Petrie should be on the phone to John Boyle right now agreeing to pay £15k each today to stop them going out the box.

£15k for 9 points, and making up 6 on one of your main rivals for a European place? No brainer imo.

And if they do go out the box, just award everyone still to play them a 3-0 win till the end of the season. Use the pot of money they should have got at the end of the season to be split between all the sides who are losing a home game (and therefore income).

vasco de gama · 13-03-08, 09:08

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Originally Posted by Smurf

If this happens the SPL will be the laughing stock of the world.

The SPL should IMO cover their costs in order to fulfill their fixtures.

Surely there should also be a financial structure criteria for clubs membership of the SPL?

I predict a same scenario this time next season when the Yams go tits up..

If the 30k a week figure the administrator is quoting is what they need then surely Bobo Balde should divert his well-earned wages for a few weeks to cover it!

KeithDev1875 · 13-03-08, 09:48

The only teams who would benefit are the Scumbos and Dundee Utd cos they've only beaten them once out of 3 games - fvckin joke to punish teams that have beaten them.

Brainwrong · 13-03-08, 10:34

Current P W D L F A GD P
1 Rangers 27 22 2 3 67 20 47 68
2 Celtic 28 20 5 3 66 19 47 65
3 Dundee Utd 30 13 7 10 43 34 9 46
4 Motherwell 28 14 4 10 39 33 6 46
5 Hibernian 29 12 8 9 42 35 7 44
6 Falkirk 29 10 7 12 38 42 -4 37
7 Hearts 29 10 6 13 40 47 -7 36
8 Aberdeen 29 9 7 13 33 48 -15 34
9 Inverness CT 29 10 3 16 35 48 -13 33
10 Kilmarnock 29 7 7 15 30 43 -13 28
11 St Mirren 27 7 6 14 18 44 -26 27
12 Gretna 28 4 4 20 28 66 -38 16

Minus Gretna results P W D L F A GD P
1 Rangers 24 19 2 3 57 17 40 59
2 Celtic 26 18 5 3 61 18 43 59
3 Dundee Utd 27 12 7 8 37 29 8 43
4 Motherwell 25 11 4 10 31 31 0 37
5 Hibernian 26 9 8 9 33 31 2 35
6 Falkirk 26 8 7 11 32 40 -8 31
7 Hearts 26 9 4 13 36 45 -9 31
8 Aberdeen 27 8 6 13 30 47 -17 30
9 Inverness CT 27 8 3 16 28 48 -20 27
10 Kilmarnock 26 6 6 14 23 35 -12 24
11 St Mirren 26 6 6 14 17 44 -27 24

Utd being the main winners. The deduction of points won't matter to the OF.

**bigmanandy** · 13-03-08, 10:38

What a laughing stock the SPL would be.

We are sitting nicely in the league at the moment but it certaintly wont be nice missing out on European football juts because some team went into Administration....

Hope it can all be sorted out as quickly as possibe.

Greenmachine · 13-03-08, 10:39

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Originally Posted by Bampotto

I can guarantee you that if it means trouble between the old firm then it will not happen. The SFA/SPL cannot afford to give one team a boost over another. It just won't happen.

Agreed.

There is also no way that points will be deducted from teams IMO. Some compromise will be found in order to allow Gretna to complete their fixtures. It is a farcical situation however, and should never have been allowed to happen.

13-03-08, 01:09	#1
aggie Juvenile Radge Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: London Age: 34 Posts: 246 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 2	Gretna Consequences Could potentially be grim for us..? http://sport.scotsman.com/spl/Gretna...n39.3872845.jp Suggests that their records would be wiped and the league recalculated. Considering we've taken six points off them, that's surely bad news for us. Pretty sure Dundde utd drew with them at least once, not sure about Well..

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Bampotto Watching From Afar Radge Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, Ontario (for now...) Age: 27 Posts: 1,567 My Mood: Thanks: 2 Thanked 25 Times in 14 Posts Rep Power: 4	Re: Gretna Consequences I can guarantee you that if it means trouble between the old firm then it will not happen. The SFA/SPL cannot afford to give one team a boost over another. It just won't happen.

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hibbill2002 radge grandad radge Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: liberton Age: 51 Posts: 1,855 Thanks: 35 Thanked 120 Times in 44 Posts Rep Power: 6	Re: Gretna Consequences murdo mcleod made a suggestion last night, give every team that still have to play gretna the 3 points. __________________

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Norwayhibs Norwegian Hibs Radge Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kristiansand, Norway Age: 42 Posts: 1,140 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 0	Re: Gretna Consequences http://sport.scotsman.com/spl/Gretna...n39.3872845.jp As others on this thread have said I dont think they would dare take back points from the clubs who have beaten Gretna.The potential uproar from the OF virtually guarantees this not happening.

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Smurf Away doing some work for a few weeks Join Date: May 2003 Location: Suburbia Age: 35 Posts: 22,573 My Mood: Thanks: 16 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts Rep Power: 0	Re: Gretna Consequences If this happens the SPL will be the laughing stock of the world. The SPL should IMO cover their costs in order to fulfill their fixtures. Surely there should also be a financial structure criteria for clubs membership of the SPL? I predict a same scenario this time next season when the Yams go tits up..

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wee 162 Bounce Flag Co-Owner Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sunny Leith Age: 34 Posts: 12,503 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 28	Re: Gretna Consequences Petrie should be on the phone to John Boyle right now agreeing to pay £15k each today to stop them going out the box. £15k for 9 points, and making up 6 on one of your main rivals for a European place? No brainer imo. And if they do go out the box, just award everyone still to play them a 3-0 win till the end of the season. Use the pot of money they should have got at the end of the season to be split between all the sides who are losing a home game (and therefore income). __________________ “Women who seek to be equal with men lack ambition.” Timothy Leary

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KeithDev1875 Serious Radge Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 594 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post Rep Power: 3	Re: Gretna Consequences The only teams who would benefit are the Scumbos and Dundee Utd cos they've only beaten them once out of 3 games - fvckin joke to punish teams that have beaten them.

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Brainwrong Vernacular Radge Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Jist doon the road, laddie Age: 31 Posts: 2,670 Thanks: 6 Thanked 68 Times in 17 Posts Rep Power: 10	Re: Gretna Consequences Current P W D L F A GD P 1 Rangers 27 22 2 3 67 20 47 68 2 Celtic 28 20 5 3 66 19 47 65 3 Dundee Utd 30 13 7 10 43 34 9 46 4 Motherwell 28 14 4 10 39 33 6 46 5 Hibernian 29 12 8 9 42 35 7 44 6 Falkirk 29 10 7 12 38 42 -4 37 7 Hearts 29 10 6 13 40 47 -7 36 8 Aberdeen 29 9 7 13 33 48 -15 34 9 Inverness CT 29 10 3 16 35 48 -13 33 10 Kilmarnock 29 7 7 15 30 43 -13 28 11 St Mirren 27 7 6 14 18 44 -26 27 12 Gretna 28 4 4 20 28 66 -38 16 Minus Gretna results P W D L F A GD P 1 Rangers 24 19 2 3 57 17 40 59 2 Celtic 26 18 5 3 61 18 43 59 3 Dundee Utd 27 12 7 8 37 29 8 43 4 Motherwell 25 11 4 10 31 31 0 37 5 Hibernian 26 9 8 9 33 31 2 35 6 Falkirk 26 8 7 11 32 40 -8 31 7 Hearts 26 9 4 13 36 45 -9 31 8 Aberdeen 27 8 6 13 30 47 -17 30 9 Inverness CT 27 8 3 16 28 48 -20 27 10 Kilmarnock 26 6 6 14 23 35 -12 24 11 St Mirren 26 6 6 14 17 44 -27 24 Utd being the main winners. The deduction of points won't matter to the OF. __________________ The twisted brainwrong of a one-off man mental. Me: http://www.myspace.com/clintomatic

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bigmanandy Radge Private Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The East Stand Age: 19 Posts: 4,532 Thanks: 9 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Rep Power: 16	Re: Gretna Consequences What a laughing stock the SPL would be. We are sitting nicely in the league at the moment but it certaintly wont be nice missing out on European football juts because some team went into Administration.... Hope it can all be sorted out as quickly as possibe. __________________ We are hibernian fc , we hate jam tarts and we hate dundee we will fight wherever we will be, because we are the mental HFC The only team to sing about, the only team to see, the only team in Edinburgh, HibernianFC In your Gorgie slums, you rake the bucket for something to eat, you find a dead rat and you think its a treat, in your Gorgie Slums