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**hibeesbounceross** · 19-12-07, 09:41

So was are your impressions of him now? Before Saturday he had scored 6 goals in his last 10 matches, which is a decent ratio! Seems to have pace, skill and a finish. Kind of lacks physical strength and balance a little. But that will come to his game the more he plays for the side.

The SPL is a physical League and in time, he should be a good out and out striker.

He has been slated before on the board in the earlier days and the criticism has died done.

Whats your thoughts on the lad then?

**dangerousdavid** · 19-12-07, 10:36

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So was are your impressions of him now? Before Saturday he had scored 6 goals in his last 10 matches, which is a decent ratio! Seems to have pace, skill and a finish. Kind of lacks physical strength and balance a little. But that will come to his game the more he plays for the side.

The SPL is a physical League and in time, he should be a good out and out striker.

He has been slated before on the board in the earlier days and the criticism has died done.

Whats your thoughts on the lad then?

I can see the lad being a good player for us and scoring a fair few goals.

But at the moment he looks a tad like an elephant on ice.

**Bampotto** · 19-12-07, 10:43

He'll be handy if we stay in a cup long enough to get to a penalty shoot-out!

**hughieo** · 19-12-07, 11:10

It strikes me that he often jumps and almost pretends to go for the high ball with no real intention of getting it.

Get him on the weights.

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Bossie · 19-12-07, 11:11

Rarely gets an effort at goal as he only very rarely gets himself into a scoring position.

Two goals from open play says it all.

**Dr Shrink** · 19-12-07, 11:17

My impression is he is a bit lightweight, and doesn't have the same impact as a striker as Fletch now does.

Mind you, it's not THAT long ago that Fletch seemed a bit lightweight too.

Whether we have the time or patience to see Clayton develop -as I think he will - remains to be seen.

**wee 162** · 19-12-07, 11:27

Far more intelligent on the park than I imagined he would be by this stage tbh. He isn't getting into enough dangerous positions close to goal, but he seems likely to create more goals than I thought he would. Was surprised to hear a bit of criticism of him on Saturday as I thought he'd had a good game. Brought other players into the game with lots of clever wee touches, held the ball up quite well, and was forcing Falkirk to play quite deep as he has a wee turn of pace and reads the line quite well. All in all he's came on a chunk in the few months he's been at ER. Could see him and Benji striking up a partnership in Fletchers absence which I could see working.

And I couldn't gie a feck if a few of his goals were penalties, I can't mind many people taking off the goals McCoist scored from penalties when calling him prolific. You've still got to score them.

sauzee-god04 · 19-12-07, 11:36

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Far more intelligent on the park than I imagined he would be by this stage tbh. He isn't getting into enough dangerous positions close to goal, but he seems likely to create more goals than I thought he would. Was surprised to hear a bit of criticism of him on Saturday as I thought he'd had a good game. Brought other players into the game with lots of clever wee touches, held the ball up quite well, and was forcing Falkirk to play quite deep as he has a wee turn of pace and reads the line quite well. All in all he's came on a chunk in the few months he's been at ER. Could see him and Benji striking up a partnership in Fletchers absence which I could see working.

And I couldn't gie a feck if a few of his goals were penalties, I can't mind many people taking off the goals McCoist scored from penalties when calling him prolific. You've still got to score them.

he has scored somthing like 4 penalties but has he not won 3 of the himself ?

Smurf · 19-12-07, 12:01

Coming from the Conference i wasn't expecting too much in the short term.

In Pre-season i was a bit concerned though...

However, I'm now pretty impressed. Think of his CIS Cup goal v Motherwell.
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That said i think the expectations on his shoulders are far too high from supporters and his employer..

It's a HUGE step up from the conference to the SPL so it'll take time.

bingo mistro · 19-12-07, 12:34

yep he has potential but think he has to work on his fitness as again against falkirk the last twenty minutes he seems to go abit flat and gets beaten to the ball alot where you would think someone of his size could get there first
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**Broxburn_Hibby** · 19-12-07, 13:59

I think he'll prove to be a good sigining.None of our strikers are setting the heather on fire the now but as i've commented in previous weeks this is down to our lacklusture midfield not creating enough.The likes of Curier and Donaldson are coming deep to pick up the ball when really we need to see them receiving it in the final third of the pitch.

Overall though 6 goals in 10 starts is a decent return...many more to come i reckon
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**Hibee Kev** · 19-12-07, 14:10

I think Donaldson and Fletcher are the best front pairing we have at the moment. He was slipping about an awful lot on Saturday though! Think he changed his boots at HT?
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Not great in the air, but he won a few on Saturday. My only concern is that I've yet to see him really go at a defence and try and take them on, he's certainly got the pace to do it.

**chrissy-r-hfc** · 19-12-07, 14:12

I think Collins rates him highly and it looks like he's going to be starting alot more. I've been pretty impressed with him so far and I think there's alot more to come from him when he does get a bit of strength about him.

paul_hibs · 19-12-07, 17:51

i think he looks a good goal scorer

**brizo1** · 19-12-07, 18:00

Yeh i'm quite happy with him the now, felt he had a poor game against Falkirk..but then most of the team were not at there best.

Although he doesn't seem very strong, because he's quite tall and skinny this can be awkward for defenders to tackle him.

on the hole think he will do well and see him scoring a lot more goals

**Bartok** · 19-12-07, 18:49

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Yeh i'm quite happy with him the now, felt he had a poor game against Falkirk..but then most of the team were not at there best.

Although he doesn't seem very strong, because he's quite tall and skinny this can be awkward for defenders to tackle him.

on the hole think he will do well and see him scoring a lot more goals

Fair enough but he's no getting near my hole, no ma type at all
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**Decal Joe** · 19-12-07, 18:56

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Fair enough but he's no getting near my hole, no ma type at all
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Are you a Racialist?, is it cos he is black?
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**SlovSam** · 19-12-07, 19:08

Absoluuuuuuuuuteeeely loves himself, loves his fast cars ,loves being a footballer and no doubt loves that complete airheid 'Pippa' as well.
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Struts around off the pitch like a preeenin peacock and on the field has to face tough choices as to whether it's a wee yelly bow in the back of the hair today or shall I wear the red,orange,silver or green boots.
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Alternatively he would be better employed thinking as to why 42 year old Andy Millen had him in his fat back pocket. how not to disapear for most of the game except when penalties are awarded and how to lay off the ball and bring the midfield back into play as well as the more mundane task of staying on his feet.
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For £3,000 (including bonuses) a week and a £100,000 signing on fee and being the third highest salary at the club a return of two goals from open play is not good enough though scoring 4 penalties just about makes things even as you have to accept that 12 months ago he was playing against some dreadful English commuter town famous for nothing other than its wee railway station.

'Flash Harry' is a bit of a poseur but he does have the potential to be better as he has the strength and physique and the speed and if he has the attitude of mind to apply himself better then he might turn out to be a good signing.
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**Keepitgreen** · 19-12-07, 19:10

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Absoluuuuuuuuuteeeely loves himself, loves his fast cars ,loves being a footballer and no doubt loves that complete airheid 'Pippa' as well.
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Struts around off the pitch like a preeenin peacock and on the field has to face tough choices as to whether it's a wee yelly bow in the back of the hair today or shall I wear the red,orange,silver or green boots.
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Alternatively he would be better employed thinking as to why 42 year old Andy Millen had him in his fat back pocket. how not to disapear for most of the game except when penalties are awarded and how to lay off the ball and bring the midfield back into play as well as the more mundane task of staying on his feet.
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For £3,000 (including bonuses) a week and a £100,000 signing on fee and being the third highest salary at the club a return of two goals from open play is not good enough though scoring 4 penalties just about makes things even as you have to accept that 12 months ago he was playing against some dreadful English commuter town famous for nothing other than its wee railway station.

'Flash Harry' is a bit of a poseur but he does have the potential to be better as he has the strength and physique and the speed and if he has the attitude of mind to apply himself better then he might turn out to be a good signing.
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Why do you pick this player out for such piss-taking at every opportunity?

**SlovSam** · 19-12-07, 19:21

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Why do you pick this player out for such piss-taking at every opportunity?

Because I think he sums up in a nutshell the attitude of many football players who get a huge salary, a massive signing on fee and are feted as someone special and a player who have made it as a success in their profession.

He hasn't, he has achieved nothing at Hibs or in football and really so far isn't even close and if he is willing to give a number of interviews where him and 'Pippa' regard themselves as the new Posh and Becks then he is a fair target for ridicule.

Compare his attitude with someone like MAC who is probably on his way out but at least he can say he gave 110% and so far I don't think 'Flash Harry' can say the same thing.

Knock in 15 to 20 goals a season then he can happily strut around like Frankie Dettori and she can be the Queen of Sheebba but do the business first.
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**CraigHFC** · 19-12-07, 19:23

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Because I think he sums up in a nutshell the attitude of many football players who get a huge salary, a massive signing on fee and are feted as someone special and a player who have made it as a success in their profession.

He hasn't, he has achieved nothing at Hibs or in football and really so far isn't even close and if he is willing to give a number of interviews where him and 'Pippa' regard themselves as the new Posh and Becks then he is a fair target for ridicule.

Compare his attitude with someone like Curier who is probably on his way out but at least he can say he gave 110% and so far I don't think 'Flash Harry can say the same thing.

Knock in 15 to 20 goals a season then he can happily strut around like Frankie Dettori and she can be the Queen of Sheebba but do the business first.
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When has he done this?
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19-12-07, 09:41	#1
hibeesbounceross Capital Greens Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Carrick Knowe Age: 18 Posts: 2,402 vCash: 500 My Mood: Thanks: 6 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Rep Power: 7	Clayton Donaldson So was are your impressions of him now? Before Saturday he had scored 6 goals in his last 10 matches, which is a decent ratio! Seems to have pace, skill and a finish. Kind of lacks physical strength and balance a little. But that will come to his game the more he plays for the side. The SPL is a physical League and in time, he should be a good out and out striker. He has been slated before on the board in the earlier days and the criticism has died done. Whats your thoughts on the lad then? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Capital Greens To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Found seated under the Gantry.

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Bampotto Watching From Afar Radge Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, Ontario (for now...) Age: 27 Posts: 1,933 vCash: 500 My Mood: Thanks: 2 Thanked 40 Times in 26 Posts Rep Power: 6	Re: Clayton Donaldson He'll be handy if we stay in a cup long enough to get to a penalty shoot-out!

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Bossie A True Gadgie/Gadgess Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Glasgow Age: 42 Posts: 2,036 vCash: 500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 11	Re: Clayton Donaldson Rarely gets an effort at goal as he only very rarely gets himself into a scoring position. Two goals from open play says it all. __________________ Flats, flats glorious flats

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wee 162 Bounce Flag Co-Owner Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sunny Leith Age: 34 Posts: 12,696 vCash: 500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 32	Re: Clayton Donaldson Far more intelligent on the park than I imagined he would be by this stage tbh. He isn't getting into enough dangerous positions close to goal, but he seems likely to create more goals than I thought he would. Was surprised to hear a bit of criticism of him on Saturday as I thought he'd had a good game. Brought other players into the game with lots of clever wee touches, held the ball up quite well, and was forcing Falkirk to play quite deep as he has a wee turn of pace and reads the line quite well. All in all he's came on a chunk in the few months he's been at ER. Could see him and Benji striking up a partnership in Fletchers absence which I could see working. And I couldn't gie a feck if a few of his goals were penalties, I can't mind many people taking off the goals McCoist scored from penalties when calling him prolific. You've still got to score them. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. quality='high' bgcolor='#006699' width='300' height='184' name='indecision_2008_action_item' align='middle' allowScriptAccess='always' allownetworking='external' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' pluginspage=' To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. who seek to be equal with men lack ambition.” Timothy Leary

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Smurf Away doing some work for a few weeks Join Date: May 2003 Location: Suburbia Age: 35 Posts: 22,572 vCash: 500 My Mood: Thanks: 16 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts Rep Power: 0	Re: Clayton Donaldson Coming from the Conference i wasn't expecting too much in the short term. In Pre-season i was a bit concerned though... However, I'm now pretty impressed. Think of his CIS Cup goal v Motherwell. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. That said i think the expectations on his shoulders are far too high from supporters and his employer.. It's a HUGE step up from the conference to the SPL so it'll take time.

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bingo mistro Toddler Radge Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: tranent Age: 28 Posts: 85 vCash: 500 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 2	Re: Clayton Donaldson yep he has potential but think he has to work on his fitness as again against falkirk the last twenty minutes he seems to go abit flat and gets beaten to the ball alot where you would think someone of his size could get there first To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Broxburn_Hibby Van Zanten Ya Radge Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Stirling Uni/Broxburn Age: 20 Posts: 930 vCash: 0 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Rep Power: 7	Re: Clayton Donaldson I think he'll prove to be a good sigining.None of our strikers are setting the heather on fire the now but as i've commented in previous weeks this is down to our lacklusture midfield not creating enough.The likes of Curier and Donaldson are coming deep to pick up the ball when really we need to see them receiving it in the final third of the pitch. Overall though 6 goals in 10 starts is a decent return...many more to come i reckon To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Hibee Kev Black & White Army Radge Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Corstorphine Posts: 1,360 vCash: 500 My Mood: Thanks: 13 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Rep Power: 6	Re: Clayton Donaldson I think Donaldson and Fletcher are the best front pairing we have at the moment. He was slipping about an awful lot on Saturday though! Think he changed his boots at HT? To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Not great in the air, but he won a few on Saturday. My only concern is that I've yet to see him really go at a defence and try and take them on, he's certainly got the pace to do it. __________________ "Life goes by pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it." - Ferris Bueller

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chrissy-r-hfc Queensferry Radge Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: South Queensferry Age: 20 Posts: 1,319 vCash: 500 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Rep Power: 4	Re: Clayton Donaldson I think Collins rates him highly and it looks like he's going to be starting alot more. I've been pretty impressed with him so far and I think there's alot more to come from him when he does get a bit of strength about him. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. WELCOME HOME DEEKS

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paul_hibs Juvenile Radge Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: mountcastle Age: 16 Posts: 295 vCash: 500 Thanks: 47 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts Rep Power: 3	Re: Clayton Donaldson i think he looks a good goal scorer

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brizo1 Barry Gadgie Radge Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upper Boswall/Trinity/Inverleith Age: 35 Posts: 144 vCash: 500 My Mood: Thanks: 11 Thanked 18 Times in 7 Posts Rep Power: 2	Re: Clayton Donaldson Yeh i'm quite happy with him the now, felt he had a poor game against Falkirk..but then most of the team were not at there best. Although he doesn't seem very strong, because he's quite tall and skinny this can be awkward for defenders to tackle him. on the hole think he will do well and see him scoring a lot more goals

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SlovSam Radge Flag Owner and Private Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Usually Edinburgh. Posts: 3,038 vCash: 500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 15	Re: Clayton Donaldson Absoluuuuuuuuuteeeely loves himself, loves his fast cars ,loves being a footballer and no doubt loves that complete airheid 'Pippa' as well. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Struts around off the pitch like a preeenin peacock and on the field has to face tough choices as to whether it's a wee yelly bow in the back of the hair today or shall I wear the red,orange,silver or green boots. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Alternatively he would be better employed thinking as to why 42 year old Andy Millen had him in his fat back pocket. how not to disapear for most of the game except when penalties are awarded and how to lay off the ball and bring the midfield back into play as well as the more mundane task of staying on his feet. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. For £3,000 (including bonuses) a week and a £100,000 signing on fee and being the third highest salary at the club a return of two goals from open play is not good enough though scoring 4 penalties just about makes things even as you have to accept that 12 months ago he was playing against some dreadful English commuter town famous for nothing other than its wee railway station. 'Flash Harry' is a bit of a poseur but he does have the potential to be better as he has the strength and physique and the speed and if he has the attitude of mind to apply himself better then he might turn out to be a good signing. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. __________________ 'Football is the most important of life's least important things' Ariggo Sachi.