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**shandongreen** · 30-11-07, 21:39

thought someone might have posted this already,was coming back from makro and on talksport 1089 it stated that steven fletcher hibs under 21 international is set to sign a new contract which will make him the HIGHEST PAID PLAYER AT ER
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..............delighted but surprised.

**Bill Oddies Beard** · 30-11-07, 21:48

Well, he will be for about 6 months before he fecks off too.

Probably.

**Kenny** · 30-11-07, 22:02

I'll wait to see if it happens but some people made pretty damning statements regarding the boards handling of this...

could they all be wrong ?
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**Bill Oddies Beard** · 30-11-07, 22:07

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I'll wait to see if it happens but some people made pretty damning statements regarding the boards handling of this...

could they all be wrong ?
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I'm not a great fan of the board Kenny, but i think they are in a "Damned if we do, damned if we don't" situation here.

If they refused to meet Fletchers pay demands (whatever they may be) then fans will say that they are tight and are pushing Fletch out the door and into the arms of the OF.

if they do meet those demands then people (like me) will only think they are making him the highest paid at ER so the board can inflate the price when he inevitably goes.

HibeeAnderson · 30-11-07, 22:09

If this is the case im very happy, means we can get the best possible deal for him when he does go which is inevitable anyway. Just means it may be an extra 12 months before he goes.
Fletcher needs 2 seasons scoring 15-25 goals each season before he can get a decnt move.

**shandongreen** · 30-11-07, 22:13

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I'm not a great fan of the board Kenny, but i think they are in a "Damned if we do, damned if we don't" situation here.

If they refused to meet Fletchers pay demands (whatever they may be) then fans will say that they are tight and are pushing Fletch out the door and into the arms of the OF.

if they do meet those demands then people (like me) will only think they are making him the highest paid at ER so the board can inflate the price when he inevitably goes.

have to agree,think he will sign for another 2 years but will be away long before the present one runs out.

**greencol** · 30-11-07, 22:13

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Well, he will be for about 6 months before he fecks off too.

Probably.

You don't live near Smurf do you?
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I think he will sign a new improved contract.
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There will be several clauses in it giving him & the club various options on how & when he leaves.
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Rod will see to it that Hibs get their moneys worth. Whenever.

**Tkraz** · 30-11-07, 22:15

What will be interesting, is that at present his deal runs till 2011. So I would doubt he would sign on for an extended period of time.

What might be possible though is that the deal is shorter, but the wages he would be receiving from say 2009-2011 have been bumped up to increase his weekly wage over a shorter period of time.

Thus he would be more likely to move sooner as he would have more flexibility and would be increasing his wage.

paul_hibs · 30-11-07, 22:27

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What will be interesting, is that at present his deal runs till 2011. So I would doubt he would sign on for an extended period of time.

What might be possible though is that the deal is shorter, but the wages he would be receiving from say 2009-2011 have been bumped up to increase his weekly wage over a shorter period of time.

Thus he would be more likely to move sooner as he would have more flexibility and would be increasing his wage.

would be daft to shorten is contract for more money surely
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**Tkraz** · 01-12-07, 00:35

Not for Fletcher and possibly not for Hibs either.

If you were to assume that Hibs were prepared to sell him within a year to two. And if you were to also assume that Hibs were not prepared to outlay any more cash over the remainder of his current deal. Then to shorten the contract within a reasonable time frame in order to sell him at his peak value, and also give him the extra cash he wants and would have received over 4 years over say, 2 or 3 anyway , would suit both parties.

Slightly cynical but I don't think it's healthy to treat anything the current board does without a slight dose of caution!

**scaredyhibby** · 01-12-07, 00:57

It would be great to think we could keep Fletch for another 5 years but realistically he will inevitably be leaving the club but we want to get the market value for him !!

**Bill Oddies Beard** · 01-12-07, 01:05

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It would be great to think we could keep Fletch for another 5 years but realistically he will inevitably be leaving the club but we want to get the market value for him !!

We should be getting well above the market value. After all the board keep reminding us that we don't have to sell anyone.
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**scaredyhibby** · 01-12-07, 01:10

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We should be getting well above the market value. After all the board keep reminding us that we don't have to sell anyone.
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Aye fair comment
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**shandongreen** · 01-12-07, 06:25

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Not for Fletcher and possibly not for Hibs either.

If you were to assume that Hibs were prepared to sell him within a year to two. And if you were to also assume that Hibs were not prepared to outlay any more cash over the remainder of his current deal. Then to shorten the contract within a reasonable time frame in order to sell him at his peak value, and also give him the extra cash he wants and would have received over 4 years over say, 2 or 3 anyway , would suit both parties.

Slightly cynical but I don't think it's healthy to treat anything the current board does without a slight dose of caution!

being totally cynical ! never known a contract to be shortened but saying it was for more money,what is to stop the player then sitting tight getting all the money for himself and the club up shit creek............no way that happenin

**Tkraz** · 01-12-07, 07:33

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being totally cynical ! never known a contract to be shortened but saying it was for more money,what is to stop the player then sitting tight getting all the money for himself and the club up shit creek............no way that happenin

I don't see whats so complex about it. Fletcher wants more money, the club doesnt want to give him it.

So instead of paying the same money over a longer period of time, they increase his wages for the time being however on a shorter deal than before which would mean a relative increase on a weekly basis, without the club actually having any more outlay than before.

jasewood · 01-12-07, 11:08

Surely not a chance in hell they will shorten the contract....The wage budget is "yearly" and not over the course of a contract.

Regardless of how much money we give him it would mean in any which way that he would be able to bugger off a year earlier ala Deeks and im sure JC & RP would rather he sat on his tuppence and had a year longer to choose(if they do) to punt him to the highest bidder.

Smurf · 01-12-07, 11:16

I'd be shocked if the contract was shorter.. Not a chance!

I think the objective of a new contract with better basic and % of transfer fee for player will have two purposes;

For the player; To keep a player doing his job well happy in the short-term.
For the club; To retain control to a limited extent to when we want to cash in on our asset. (Next Summer 08 or Jan 09 ahead of Jan 08)

**wee 162** · 01-12-07, 11:30

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I'll wait to see if it happens but some people made pretty damning statements regarding the boards handling of this...

could they all be wrong ?
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Or could the board have realised they were wrong after the fans went pretty universally radge at them...

**Kenny** · 01-12-07, 11:48

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Or could the board have realised they were wrong after the fans went pretty universally radge at them...

players aren't the same as staiton - but we'll never know.

I hope it represent a higher top wage at ER - this'll help distance our selves from arabs and the rest of the lower spl in the spending stakes.

HibeeAnderson · 01-12-07, 12:06

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I'd be shocked if the contract was shorter.. Not a chance!
I think the objective of a new contract with better basic and % of transfer fee for player will have two purposes;

For the player; To keep a player doing his job well happy in the short-term.
For the club; To retain control to a limited extent to when we want to cash in on our asset. (Next Summer 08 or Jan 09 ahead of Jan 08)

Too right, the contract wont be getting made shorter. That would be pointless and we would be better scrapping the contract talk and leaving him on pennies if this was the alternative.
All it would mean would be that we would have to sell Fletch earlier if hs contract was shortened.

And regarding the wage structure being increased to rise put some 'distance' fom ourselfs and the Arabs, i think this woud merely allow us to catch up. We have a structured wage bill that is very rigid where as alot of other clubs seem to be able to offer certain stars top dollar. Aberdeen, Dundee Utd both have players on much better terms than we can offer and id be surprised if Yantorno(Gretna) wasnt on a bumper pay package.
This can disrupt the dressing room unless a player genuinelly deserves the extra wages and is a real star within the team. Something Fletch is. Give the lad a £3.5k contract until 2012with goal and appearance bonuses and we may have a bit of hope of keepinghim until Summer 2009. That would be good business.

**shandongreen** · 01-12-07, 12:27

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I don't see whats so complex about it. Fletcher wants more money, the club doesnt want to give him it.

So instead of paying the same money over a longer period of time, they increase his wages for the time being however on a shorter deal than before which would mean a relative increase on a weekly basis, without the club actually having any more ou

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Kenny Radge Private Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Glasgow Posts: 4,310 vCash: 500 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Rep Power: 12	Re: fletcher contract I'll wait to see if it happens but some people made pretty damning statements regarding the boards handling of this... could they all be wrong ? To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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HibeeAnderson Juvenile Radge Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Colinton Age: 21 Posts: 291 vCash: 500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 2	Re: fletcher contract If this is the case im very happy, means we can get the best possible deal for him when he does go which is inevitable anyway. Just means it may be an extra 12 months before he goes. Fletcher needs 2 seasons scoring 15-25 goals each season before he can get a decnt move. __________________ John Smeaton-BBC News - I could tell there was gas coming out the back of the car, anybody who's ever thrown a gas canister into a bonfire will know whit a mean"

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Tkraz Radge Private Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Glasgow Age: 21 Posts: 2,052 vCash: 500 My Mood: Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Rep Power: 8	Re: fletcher contract What will be interesting, is that at present his deal runs till 2011. So I would doubt he would sign on for an extended period of time. What might be possible though is that the deal is shorter, but the wages he would be receiving from say 2009-2011 have been bumped up to increase his weekly wage over a shorter period of time. Thus he would be more likely to move sooner as he would have more flexibility and would be increasing his wage.

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Tkraz Radge Private Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Glasgow Age: 21 Posts: 2,052 vCash: 500 My Mood: Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Rep Power: 8	Re: fletcher contract Not for Fletcher and possibly not for Hibs either. If you were to assume that Hibs were prepared to sell him within a year to two. And if you were to also assume that Hibs were not prepared to outlay any more cash over the remainder of his current deal. Then to shorten the contract within a reasonable time frame in order to sell him at his peak value, and also give him the extra cash he wants and would have received over 4 years over say, 2 or 3 anyway , would suit both parties. Slightly cynical but I don't think it's healthy to treat anything the current board does without a slight dose of caution!

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scaredyhibby Radge Private Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Motherwell Age: 54 Posts: 2,902 vCash: 500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 8	Re: fletcher contract It would be great to think we could keep Fletch for another 5 years but realistically he will inevitably be leaving the club but we want to get the market value for him !! __________________ GGTTH

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jasewood A True Gadgie/Gadgess Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Edinburgh Age: 23 Posts: 1,361 vCash: 500 My Mood: Thanks: 48 Thanked 83 Times in 66 Posts Rep Power: 9	Re: fletcher contract Surely not a chance in hell they will shorten the contract....The wage budget is "yearly" and not over the course of a contract. Regardless of how much money we give him it would mean in any which way that he would be able to bugger off a year earlier ala Deeks and im sure JC & RP would rather he sat on his tuppence and had a year longer to choose(if they do) to punt him to the highest bidder. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Smurf Away doing some work for a few weeks Join Date: May 2003 Location: Suburbia Age: 35 Posts: 22,572 vCash: 500 My Mood: Thanks: 16 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts Rep Power: 0	Re: fletcher contract I'd be shocked if the contract was shorter.. Not a chance! I think the objective of a new contract with better basic and % of transfer fee for player will have two purposes; For the player; To keep a player doing his job well happy in the short-term. For the club; To retain control to a limited extent to when we want to cash in on our asset. (Next Summer 08 or Jan 09 ahead of Jan 08)