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Old 28-11-07, 13:30   #1
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Thinking Collins: national boss doesn't have to be a Scot

HIBS boss John Collins today insisted the SFA shouldn't shy away from naming a foreign manager as successor to Alex McLeish - provided he is fluent in English.

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Re: Collins: national boss doesn't have to be a Scot

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HIBS boss John Collins today insisted the SFA shouldn't shy away from naming a foreign manager as successor to Alex McLeish - provided he is fluent in English.

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Is there a hidden mesage here that appointing a foreign manager might mean Souness is back in the frame
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and if anyone wants to start a Stop Souness petition then just point me in the right direction.
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Re: Collins: national boss doesn't have to be a Scot

I dont agree with that the next manager should be a Scot as foriengers never seem to be right and with vital world cup qualifiers we cant afford to appoint a manager who doesn't have a clue about Scotish football.
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Re: Collins: national boss doesn't have to be a Scot

George Graham should get the job IMO.
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George Graham should get the job IMO.
Point me towards that petition also
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Point me towards that petition also
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For or against?
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For or against?
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Against though not because he is a wide boy and a crook which he is
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or because he doesn't have a good track record which of course he does
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but on the grounds that he has been out of mainstream football (especially domestically) to long and also the age factor in relation to gelling with our vibrant team.

GG is a good candidate no doubt
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but I'd prefer someone from within the Scottish game, of a much younger age and who has been 'succesful' within Scotland and isn't tainted by being part of the Old firm mafia.

Harry Potter for me.
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especially as he is dour enough to more than match Smith and Mcleish.
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Re: Collins: national boss doesn't have to be a Scot

The problems with the scotland job is its not held in that high a regard now, or maybe thats the case with all or most international posts, but to have your last 2 managers leave to take over at club level when they both still had plenty of time left on their contracts and were going to be offered extensions for reviving the national squad suggests its become a stop gap for managers who are out of work, if the likes of mark mcghee billy davies or even harry potter get the job and carry on with the progress which they more than likely will with our present squad then when vacancies arise in the english prem there going to be linked with the positions, out of that bunch who thinks they'd stay with scotland if others come calling?
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Then the other side of the coin is the likes of souness who's out of work but a big name who'd likely stay with us cause no other ****s will have the useless fecker
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Re: Collins: national boss doesn't have to be a Scot

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I dont agree with that the next manager should be a Scot as foriengers never seem to be right and with vital world cup qualifiers we cant afford to appoint a manager who doesn't have a clue about Scotish football.
For once I agree with out you say. It is a must Scotland qualify for 2010 because otherwise this flamboyant, intriguing team will be nothing if not glorious failures yet again.

GG or Mark McGhee for me. Souness can GTF shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the job.
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Against though not because he is a wide boy and a crook which he is
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or because he doesn't have a good track record which of course he does
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but on the grounds that he has been out of mainstream football (especially domestically) to long and also the age factor in relation to gelling with our vibrant team.

GG is a good candidate no doubt
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but I'd prefer someone from within the Scottish game, of a much younger age and who has been 'succesful' within Scotland and isn't tainted by being part of the Old firm mafia.

Harry Potter for me.
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especially as he is dour enough to more than match Smith and Mcleish.
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Knowing GGs attitude to injured players I wouldn't have a problem with him as Scotland boss as long as no Hibs players are involved in any of that mans squads......
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Re: Collins: national boss doesn't have to be a Scot

I feel certain the job will go to Souness...
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wouldn't say no to Mark McGhee, better credentials than Gary Macallister
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Re: Collins: national boss doesn't have to be a Scot

That fat gunt Salmond could fit it in with his other two part-time jobs. He does speak a sort of English but he might have trouble getting his gob round Sunshine on Leiff if the fans started singing it again.
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One of my mates has just e-mailed me saying that he has heard that Alex Miller is being approached for it
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Good grief Charlie Brown as they say...
Considering that Gordon Smith has said today that he doesn't expect the new manager to be appointed before the new year I'd take any such rumours/exclusive inside info etc. with a very large dose of salt. Lexo could be in the running though.
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A dark horse perhaps. To be honest it's no worse as a suggesion than Graham or Souness.
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Good grief Charlie Brown as they say...
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Re: Collins: national boss doesn't have to be a Scot

I think Harry Potter is favourite.
At least he knows the Scottish game.
McGhee another possible.

Was Strachan not touted last time around?
If Strachan might Celtic want JC?
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Re: Collins: national boss doesn't have to be a Scot

Souness will probably end up getting the position but I would hate that. We need someone who is has not been out of work for so long and someone who can continue in the way we have been going for the last year.
McGee or Davies are OK candidates and id pluck for the latter if I had to pick right now.

Definetly has to be a Scot, we done so well because of our national pride, our never give up attitude and the desire of our players to take Scotland to staggering heights. Sucess depends on keeping stability in a 'can pick its self' team and we just need someone to take over the helms and steady the ship (a bit like NR if everyone would just let them get on with it
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I know it would be pretty hard but I reckon getting Davies in with Tommy Burns or even trying to lure McCoist back would be the way to go. They guys know they could walk in and lift the dressing room easily and just as easily walk back into club footbal afterwards. Everyone is thinking about themselves at the end of the day.
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Isn't it about time that anyone ever associated with the huns is completely ignored for the Scotland manager job (thereby conveniently removing Souness, Billy Davies, & Alex Miller as remote possibilities!)? The last two managers never batted an eyelid at jumping ship at the first opportunity. And they were both huns. So get them tae feck.
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Re: Collins: national boss doesn't have to be a Scot

I agree with Collins. aye, feels weird typing that.

The most important thing is no how Scottish the candidate is, it's their track record. I'd even take an Englishman (Roy Hodgson springs to mind).

Of the names bandied about so far, I'd rather eat my own liver than have Souness in charge, George Graham makes Alex Miller look like the most attacking manager in Europe and hasn't had a job in what, 5 or 6 years? Billy Davies is murder, Levein I don't think should get it, Dalglish isn't interested, Jeffries isn't tactically aware enough, Jordan is more defensive than Graham...
Burley would be the best shout out of the Scots mentioned I think.

The SFA need to invest time, and money, in looking at the candidates as it's a pretty good gig in International terms now that we're riding high in the rankings. If it's a foreigner, the only credentials should be a good grasp of English ( one of Berti's main failings) and a track record of achievement at International or European Club level.
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