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the bairns · 15-09-07, 19:53

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According to reports Hibs fans in hospitality have been arrested for racial abuse towards Russell Latapy,I truely hope this is not the case.

**TranentHibee** · 15-09-07, 19:58

would seem strange since russell is an ex hibee but then again every team has their share of idiots. hope it's not true.

**SkyeHibs** · 15-09-07, 20:04

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According to reports Hibs fans in hospitality have been arrested for racial abuse towards Russell Latapy,I truely hope this is not the case.

I like you hope this is not the case. If it is then the book should be thrown at them. No place for this amongst the Hibs support or anywhere else.

**Jamie** · 15-09-07, 20:05

If this is true hope hibs give them a life ban and the polis throw the book at them

Idiots !
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martin63 · 15-09-07, 20:14

If this turns out to be true then i hope HFC take a stance by throwing the book at them and making a public apology to Russel on behalf of all the true supporters at Hibernian FC.
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HutchieHibee · 15-09-07, 20:19

of all the guys to abuse
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wee Latapy is still popular with most Hibs supporters and is a really nice guy...

fecking idiots

blue toon hibby · 15-09-07, 20:32

If true I hope they will be named, shamed and banned for life. As a support, we're always harping on about how we're above all the bigotry and racism so turf them out.

HibeeJibee · 15-09-07, 20:37

By the same token, someone might have just done something unfortunate like blurt out "ya black XYZ" in the heat of the moment, say after Latapy committed a foul. Totally unacceptable, but at the same time would you really ban someone for life, and try to make some kind of figure of ridicule and hate out of them, when it could have been minor/unintentional (I'm not condoning racial abuse BTW). There is a bloke along from me in the West Stand used to call Balde a 'black XYZ' and 'back to the jungle'. Still there now. What we should all do is WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE FACTS ARE before reacting hysterically.

By the same token, if the guy made repeated/deliberate/lengthy/highly abusive comments, hammer him/her.

**Forzahibs** · 15-09-07, 20:39

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By the same token, someone might have just done something unfortunate like blurt out "ya black XYZ" in the heat of the moment, say after Latapy committed a foul. Totally unacceptable, but at the same time would you really ban someone for life, and try to make some kind of figure of ridicule and hate out of them, when it could have been minor/unintentional (I'm not condoning racial abuse BTW). There is a bloke along from me in the West Stand used to call Balde a 'black XYZ' and 'back to the jungle'. Still there now. What we should all do is WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE FACTS ARE before reacting hysterically.

By the same token, if the guy made repeated/deliberate/lengthy/highly abusive comments, hammer him/her.

But to blurt that out the person must be like that anyway , it's either zero tolerance or it isn't
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**southfieldhibby** · 15-09-07, 20:43

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By the same token, someone might have just done something unfortunate like blurt out "ya black XYZ" in the heat of the moment, say after Latapy committed a foul. Totally unacceptable, but at the same time would you really ban someone for life, and try to make some kind of figure of ridicule and hate out of them, when it could have been minor/unintentional (I'm not condoning racial abuse BTW). There is a bloke along from me in the West Stand used to call Balde a 'black XYZ' and 'back to the jungle'. Still there now. What we should all do is WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE FACTS ARE before reacting hysterically.

By the same token, if the guy made repeated/deliberate/lengthy/highly abusive comments, hammer him/her.

I disagree, and it has nowt to do with the fact Latapy is my favourite player to play for hibs.If someone says something like that once, he/she means it, they mibbe just think it more often than saying it.Racists have no place in football/work/life. they should be treated like the arse holes they are until they see the error of their ways.

Of all the people for a Hibby to racially abuse, ffs, Russell Latapy, the guy is a hibee god imo.

the bairns · 15-09-07, 20:46

I have just been talking to a source
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and it has been confirmed that 4 hibs fans have been arrested for racial abuse,A Falkirk fan has also been reported in a seperate incident but he left before he was arrested but we know who he is and will be questioned in due time.

Sin die all 5 of them for our clubs.

HibeeJibee · 15-09-07, 20:47

To be really honest with you, I don't know what the clubs legal standpoint is anyway. Falkirk could probably ban him/her on the grounds that he/she was arrested ON SUSPICION OF committing an offence (doesn't actually say it was a racial one). The police COULD take this person to court, which MIGHT results in a conviction IF there was evidence behind it. Character, previous form, heat of the moment, didn't mean it etc. etc. I'm not sure Hibs would have a legal position to ban someone, and they certainly wouldn't if they weren't convicted. Even if they were - does the club have the power to ban them?

I had a tutorial class at uni in 1st year, where a member of the class objected to myself and another student referring to people as 'black'. (This was a Sociology class and we were discussing the impact of Hurricane Katrina, and whether it was being treated differently by the media and the government in the USA than if it had happened somewhere else). She claimed we were being derogatory, saying that "black men are portayed XYZ", or that "they may be being discriminate against because they were black" etc.

Now, this person (who was, quite clearly, an idiot) - and in my opinion was trying to get some kind of twisted kudos by appearing to be some kind of 'tolerance crusader' - said they thought that it could be reported to the uni, or to the police. Would you have 'thrown the book' at me in that instance?

**southfieldhibby** · 15-09-07, 20:53

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To be really honest with you, I don't know what the clubs legal standpoint is anyway. Falkirk could probably ban him/her on the grounds that he/she was arrested ON SUSPICION OF committing an offence (doesn't actually say it was a racial one). The police COULD take this person to court, which MIGHT results in a conviction IF there was evidence behind it. Character, previous form, heat of the moment, didn't mean it etc. etc. I'm not sure Hibs would have a legal position to ban someone, and they certainly wouldn't if they weren't convicted. Even if they were - does the club have the power to ban them?

I had a tutorial class at uni in 1st year, where a member of the class objected to myself and another student referring to people as 'black'. (This was a Sociology class and we were discussing the impact of Hurricane Katrina, and whether it was being treated differently by the media and the government in the USA than if it had happened somewhere else). She claimed we were being derogatory, saying that "black men are portayed XYZ", or that "they may be being discriminate against because they were black" etc.

Now, this person (who was, quite clearly, an idiot) - and in my opinion was trying to get some kind of twisted kudos by appearing to be some kind of 'tolerance crusader' - said they thought that it could be reported to the uni, or to the police. Would you have 'thrown the book' at me in that instance?

Easter Road is private property, I guess Hibs can ban anyone they want, regardless of the reasons.

and no, I'd agree with you the pc merchant was an erse

HibeeJibee · 15-09-07, 20:56

But Hibs can't discriminate against someone (ironically) for no REASONABLY JUSTIFIABLE reason. Thus, if the person was NOT convicted I don't see the club has a leg to stand on. If they ARE convicted, maybe there is something with previous form, threat of bringing the club into disrepute etc. Clearly, there will be separate issues especially if the incident is proved to be 'substantive', for instance the person/people who likely be ridiculed by fellow fans. If this was Bobo Balde would there be the same outcry, however?

Hibs can't stop a black man who wants to watch football at ER. They can't stop a white man either.

blue toon hibby · 15-09-07, 20:56

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I have just been talking to a source
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and it has been confirmed that 4 hibs fans have been arrested for racial abuse,A Falkirk fan has also been reported in a seperate incident but he left before he was arrested but we know who he is and will be questioned in due time.

Sin die all 5 of them for our clubs.

Agreed - you can't call it a "one off" if four of them have been arrested. Get rid.

Ned · 15-09-07, 21:33

As a Falkirk fan I refuse to believe any genuine Hibs' fan would say anything derogatory to Russell let alone anything racial ...

I noticed the warm round of applause he got from the away end when he was named Man Of The Match and you should all be commended for it.

**Greenman** · 15-09-07, 22:14

If this story is true I'll eat my substantialy fat arse
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lewisthehibee · 15-09-07, 22:28

there was sum tosser in front of me calling clayton donaldson a black bas***d after he scored his goal and got booked

dont know why anyone would say that especially after he just scored for your team

**SkyeHibs** · 15-09-07, 22:31

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there was sum tosser in front of me calling clayton donaldson a black bas***d after he scored his goal and got booked

dont know why anyone would say that especially after he just scored for your team

Just shocking that anyone would do that. We need to root these people out from the Hibs support. They have no place amongst the Hibernian family.

EdinCapitals · 15-09-07, 22:44

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Just shocking that anyone would do that. We need to root these people out from the Hibs support. They have no place amongst the Hibernian family.

Agree with you 100%, we don't need them

**TranentHibee** · 15-09-07, 22:45

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Just shocking that anyone would do that. We need to root these people out from the Hibs support. They have no place amongst the Hibernian family.

Or anywhere for that matter, utterly disgusting behaviour.

**Stanton Warrior** · 16-09-07, 07:07

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But Hibs can't discriminate against someone (ironically) for no REASONABLY JUSTIFIABLE reason. Thus, if the person was NOT convicted I don't see the club has a leg to stand on. If they ARE convicted, maybe there is something with previous form, threat of bringing the club into disrepute etc. Clearly, there will be separate issues especially if the incident is proved to be 'substantive', for instance the person/people who likely be ridiculed by fellow fans. If this was Bobo Balde would there be the same outcry, however?

Hibs can't stop a black man who wants to watch football at ER. They can't stop a white man either.

This is not a matter of Hibs discriminating against anybody.

This is a matter of hibs standing up to er$eholes like this and sending out a message to everybody that this kind of behaviour is not welcome at the club.
Whether the police gather enough evidence to convict anybody is not a matter for the club it's a matter for the police.
If the club choose to exclude these individuals then it's the clubs prerogative.
The club is a business and as with any business (Shops etc) it can choose it's patrons any way it likes (As long as it doesn't break Race discrimination laws or disability discrimination laws)

There's no smoke without fire so as far as i'm concerned good riddance
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15-09-07, 19:53	#1
the bairns Baby Radge Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: falkirk Posts: 31 vCash: 500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 0	Incident At TFS [Only Registered Users Can See Links. Click Here To Register] According to reports Hibs fans in hospitality have been arrested for racial abuse towards Russell Latapy,I truely hope this is not the case.

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TranentHibee Rant In E-Minor Radge Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Tranent Age: 23 Posts: 1,657 vCash: 500 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 5	Re: Incident At TFS would seem strange since russell is an ex hibee but then again every team has their share of idiots. hope it's not true.

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martin63 Baby Radge Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 13 vCash: 500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 0	Re: Incident At TFS If this turns out to be true then i hope HFC take a stance by throwing the book at them and making a public apology to Russel on behalf of all the true supporters at Hibernian FC. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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HutchieHibee A True Gadgie/Gadgess Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Edinburgh Age: 41 Posts: 1,414 vCash: 500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 5	Re: Incident At TFS of all the guys to abuse To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. wee Latapy is still popular with most Hibs supporters and is a really nice guy... fecking idiots

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HibeeJibee A True Gadgie/Gadgess Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,539 vCash: 500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 4	Re: Incident At TFS By the same token, someone might have just done something unfortunate like blurt out "ya black XYZ" in the heat of the moment, say after Latapy committed a foul. Totally unacceptable, but at the same time would you really ban someone for life, and try to make some kind of figure of ridicule and hate out of them, when it could have been minor/unintentional (I'm not condoning racial abuse BTW). There is a bloke along from me in the West Stand used to call Balde a 'black XYZ' and 'back to the jungle'. Still there now. What we should all do is WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE FACTS ARE before reacting hysterically. By the same token, if the guy made repeated/deliberate/lengthy/highly abusive comments, hammer him/her. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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the bairns Baby Radge Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: falkirk Posts: 31 vCash: 500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 0	Re: Incident At TFS I have just been talking to a source To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. and it has been confirmed that 4 hibs fans have been arrested for racial abuse,A Falkirk fan has also been reported in a seperate incident but he left before he was arrested but we know who he is and will be questioned in due time. Sin die all 5 of them for our clubs.

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HibeeJibee A True Gadgie/Gadgess Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,539 vCash: 500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 4	Re: Incident At TFS To be really honest with you, I don't know what the clubs legal standpoint is anyway. Falkirk could probably ban him/her on the grounds that he/she was arrested ON SUSPICION OF committing an offence (doesn't actually say it was a racial one). The police COULD take this person to court, which MIGHT results in a conviction IF there was evidence behind it. Character, previous form, heat of the moment, didn't mean it etc. etc. I'm not sure Hibs would have a legal position to ban someone, and they certainly wouldn't if they weren't convicted. Even if they were - does the club have the power to ban them? I had a tutorial class at uni in 1st year, where a member of the class objected to myself and another student referring to people as 'black'. (This was a Sociology class and we were discussing the impact of Hurricane Katrina, and whether it was being treated differently by the media and the government in the USA than if it had happened somewhere else). She claimed we were being derogatory, saying that "black men are portayed XYZ", or that "they may be being discriminate against because they were black" etc. Now, this person (who was, quite clearly, an idiot) - and in my opinion was trying to get some kind of twisted kudos by appearing to be some kind of 'tolerance crusader' - said they thought that it could be reported to the uni, or to the police. Would you have 'thrown the book' at me in that instance? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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HibeeJibee A True Gadgie/Gadgess Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,539 vCash: 500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 4	Re: Incident At TFS But Hibs can't discriminate against someone (ironically) for no REASONABLY JUSTIFIABLE reason. Thus, if the person was NOT convicted I don't see the club has a leg to stand on. If they ARE convicted, maybe there is something with previous form, threat of bringing the club into disrepute etc. Clearly, there will be separate issues especially if the incident is proved to be 'substantive', for instance the person/people who likely be ridiculed by fellow fans. If this was Bobo Balde would there be the same outcry, however? Hibs can't stop a black man who wants to watch football at ER. They can't stop a white man either. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Ned Baby Radge Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: I have a nice semi Posts: 20 vCash: 500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 0	Re: Incident At TFS As a Falkirk fan I refuse to believe any genuine Hibs' fan would say anything derogatory to Russell let alone anything racial ... I noticed the warm round of applause he got from the away end when he was named Man Of The Match and you should all be commended for it. __________________ Hibee, or not to Hibee: that is the question:

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