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**TranentHibee** · 05-05-07, 16:53

Thoughts?

We didnt play too bad but the result is a load of Colin Nish.

Laughlan · 05-05-07, 17:26

IMO Jones looked lost today.

leither#1 · 05-05-07, 17:50

thought we played ok combe had a great game we need somone who can put the ball in the back of the net though

HIBEESCRAN · 05-05-07, 17:58

one error at back for killie goal,we played some good footie young lads done well the players we rely on didn't perform,combe had a blinder.
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Greenmachine · 05-05-07, 18:03

The game was an exact replica of the semi final replay. Killie sat in and defended, Hibs missed chances, and lost 1-0 to a poor team. This is what we are in for on a more regular basis next season unless the manager can bring in decent players, and get the dressing room behind him again.

1/ Benji and Fletcher cannot play together up front. They are both very good players, but they are too lightweight and neither can hold the ball up. Either would score 15-20 a season playing alongside a good target man.

2/ Too many players looked like they were going through the motions today, and simply couldn't be bothered. No question in my mind that the dressing room problems have cost Hibs a cup final place and a decent end to the season.

3/ Dean Shiels played well, as did Whittaker, Stevenson and Hogg.

4/ Murphy looked pissed off, and couldn't wait to get off the pitch when he was subbed. I don't get the impression he gets on too well with JC.

5/ Alan Combe was man of the match. His saves were tremendous, and ensured a Killie win. If he was a bit more consistent he would be an ideal keeper for Hibs.

6/ Damon Gray should have been on much earlier. He can take a half-chance in the box which seems to be beyond a lot of our players.

7/ Our tactics at free-kicks and corners are a joke. This worries me with regard to what sort of training the players are doing during the week.

8/ After last weeks excellent showing, we are back down to earth today. So many youngsters in the team means inconsistency. As I have said before, if JC is not given the backing by the board to bring in some decent experinced pros, we can look forward to games like today happening regularly next season.

**Tully** · 05-05-07, 18:26

naismith is a cheating ****

HibeeJibee · 05-05-07, 18:27

Not sure why Chisholm wasn't subbed early in the second half, he committed nothing. Similarly with Benji, he is lightweight, useless in the air again, refuses to hit the ball unless he's walked it around three people and stopped to admire the view, and IMO doesn't pass it enough OR shoot early enough. Fletcher was OK, Shields was OK, Stevenson a bit off the boil too. Whittaker played well. I felt most of the team were out for an easy wander, which is shocking - there is sizeable (nearly or maybe just into six figures) prize money through the league up for grabs by finishing 5th instead of 6th - there is also the pride of the fans. I felt only Shiels and Fletcher and Whittaker, maybe McCann in Chisholm in first half, had any determined spirit.

My real concern for next season is we will not replace the quality leaving. Collins says we will sign 4 players, including a goalie - even presuming we also get a mid, a striker and a RB/LB we will be fighting to stay where we are, never mind improving.

GlesgaeHibby · 05-05-07, 18:28

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The game was an exact replica of the semi final replay. Killie sat in and defended, Hibs missed chances, and lost 1-0 to a poor team. This is what we are in for on a more regular basis next season unless the manager can bring in decent players, and get the dressing room behind him again.

1/ Benji and Fletcher cannot play together up front. They are both very good players, but they are too lightweight and neither can hold the ball up. Either would score 15-20 a season playing alongside a good target man.

2/ Too many players looked like they were going through the motions today, and simply couldn't be bothered. No question in my mind that the dressing room problems have cost Hibs a cup final place and a decent end to the season.

3/ Dean Shiels played well, as did Whittaker, Stevenson and Hogg.

4/ Murphy looked pissed off, and couldn't wait to get off the pitch when he was subbed. I don't get the impression he gets on too well with JC.

5/ Alan Combe was man of the match. His saves were tremendous, and ensured a Killie win. If he was a bit more consistent he would be an ideal keeper for Hibs.

6/ Damon Gray should have been on much earlier. He can take a half-chance in the box which seems to be beyond a lot of our players.

7/ Our tactics at free-kicks and corners are a joke. This worries me with regard to what sort of training the players are doing during the week.

8/ After last weeks excellent showing, we are back down to earth today. So many youngsters in the team means inconsistency. As I have said before, if JC is not given the backing by the board to bring in some decent experinced pros, we can look forward to games like today happening regularly next season.

Top post. We need to adress set pieces, they are boring and predictable, and we also need to learn to play against teams that want to defend deep, and break their defensive line.

**Hibee_Lisa** · 05-05-07, 18:28

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naismith is a cheating ****

yep cant believe how easy himself and nish go down!! i cant say i think naismith is as good as everyone makes out most of the time he is non existent

HibeeJibee · 05-05-07, 18:30

At the end of the game someone behind me shouted to the referee to "book him [Nish] for being stupid". I'm inclined to agree, Naismith is skilled in gamesmanship, Nish is skilled in being thick.

HFC.ST · 05-05-07, 18:48

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The game was an exact replica of the semi final replay. Killie sat in and defended, Hibs missed chances, and lost 1-0 to a poor team. This is what we are in for on a more regular basis next season unless the manager can bring in decent players, and get the dressing room behind him again.

1/ Benji and Fletcher cannot play together up front. They are both very good players, but they are too lightweight and neither can hold the ball up. Either would score 15-20 a season playing alongside a good target man.

2/ Too many players looked like they were going through the motions today, and simply couldn't be bothered. No question in my mind that the dressing room problems have cost Hibs a cup final place and a decent end to the season.

3/ Dean Shiels played well, as did Whittaker, Stevenson and Hogg.

4/ Murphy looked pissed off, and couldn't wait to get off the pitch when he was subbed. I don't get the impression he gets on too well with JC.

5/ Alan Combe was man of the match. His saves were tremendous, and ensured a Killie win. If he was a bit more consistent he would be an ideal keeper for Hibs.

6/ Damon Gray should have been on much earlier. He can take a half-chance in the box which seems to be beyond a lot of our players.

7/ Our tactics at free-kicks and corners are a joke. This worries me with regard to what sort of training the players are doing during the week.

8/ After last weeks excellent showing, we are back down to earth today. So many youngsters in the team means inconsistency. As I have said before, if JC is not given the backing by the board to bring in some decent experinced pros, we can look forward to games like today happening regularly next season.

agree 100% the corners always seemed to be aimed at jones at least zem changed the way they were taken. Hibs need someone they can hold the midfield with a bit of knowledge. we did miss broony. Although Combe was the keeper of the day.

HIBEESCRAN · 05-05-07, 19:31

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The game was an exact replica of the semi final replay. Killie sat in and defended, Hibs missed chances, and lost 1-0 to a poor team. This is what we are in for on a more regular basis next season unless the manager can bring in decent players, and get the dressing room behind him again.

1/ Benji and Fletcher cannot play together up front. They are both very good players, but they are too lightweight and neither can hold the ball up. Either would score 15-20 a season playing alongside a good target man.

2/ Too many players looked like they were going through the motions today, and simply couldn't be bothered. No question in my mind that the dressing room problems have cost Hibs a cup final place and a decent end to the season.

3/ Dean Shiels played well, as did Whittaker, Stevenson and Hogg.

4/ Murphy looked pissed off, and couldn't wait to get off the pitch when he was subbed. I don't get the impression he gets on too well with JC.

5/ Alan Combe was man of the match. His saves were tremendous, and ensured a Killie win. If he was a bit more consistent he would be an ideal keeper for Hibs.

6/ Damon Gray should have been on much earlier. He can take a half-chance in the box which seems to be beyond a lot of our players.

7/ Our tactics at free-kicks and corners are a joke. This worries me with regard to what sort of training the players are doing during the week.

8/ After last weeks excellent showing, we are back down to earth today. So many youngsters in the team means inconsistency. As I have said before, if JC is not given the backing by the board to bring in some decent experinced pros, we can look forward to games like today happening regularly next season.

Spot on every corner and free kick are aimed at jones,change it

stevieboi · 05-05-07, 19:34

Couldn't make the game today due to work, was it a case of we were rubbish or Killie smash n grab?

leither#1 · 05-05-07, 19:38

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Couldn't make the game today due to work, was it a case of we were rubbish or Killie smash n grab?

defo smash and grab thought we did ok until the final 3rd

**scaredyhibby** · 05-05-07, 19:46

Aye we had loads of the ball but lacked that "killer touch" in front of goal.Combe did indeed have a smashing match but too often our shots were hit straight at the 'keeper which certainly made life easier for him.Another 3 points chucked away doesn't augur well for next season but that depends on who is coming into the club.

**hibsdaft70** · 05-05-07, 20:07

I didn't think the back four looked balanced today with Whittaker pushing on and Murphy staying back and leaving the work to Stevenson. I really liked the look of the back 3 last week with Boozy in the middle as sweeper. I think that with Jones and Hogg either side of him it might just work. Push whittaker and Murphy forward and have Stevenson in the middle in place of Chisholm who was poor today

Dean Sheils came alive in the 2nd half when Sproule came on and surely Collins must see a future for him next season in a forward role.

I agree about all that has been said about Benji, holds it too long and tries to walk it into the net. Disagree about Fletcher, thought he covered every blade of grass today holding up well and making some intelligent runs but should have been better in front of goal.

We absolutely have to get it sorted for next week or we'll all be getting it tight for the whole of the close season.

GGTTH

**Forzahibs** · 05-05-07, 20:29

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I didn't think the back four looked balanced today with Whittaker pushing on and Murphy staying back and leaving the work to Stevenson. I really liked the look of the back 3 last week with Boozy in the middle as sweeper. I think that with Jones and Hogg either side of him it might just work. Push whittaker and Murphy forward and have Stevenson in the middle in place of Chisholm who was poor today

Dean Sheils came alive in the 2nd half when Sproule came on and surely Collins must see a future for him next season in a forward role.

I agree about all that has been said about Benji, holds it too long and tries to walk it into the net. Disagree about Fletcher, thought he covered every blade of grass today holding up well and making some intelligent runs but should have been better in front of goal.

We absolutely have to get it sorted for next week or we'll all be getting it tight for the whole of the close season.

GGTTH

I'd have called it a back three , Jones , Hogg & Murphy

GlesgaeHibby · 05-05-07, 20:36

Yeah we lined up like this

McNeil
Hogg Jones Murph
Whittaker Stevenson
Chisholm McCann
Shiels
Benji Fletch

HibeeJibee · 05-05-07, 20:37

Except Shiels kept going all over the place, wings, up front etc. and Craig was raging.

**scaredyhibby** · 05-05-07, 20:53

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Except Shiels kept going all over the place, wings, up front etc. and Craig was raging.

This is lack of discipline I would say. Deano is a player I really rate but I do think he is playing for himself and that is bad for the team.There are still signs that all is not well in the land of Hibernian!!
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maw588 · 05-05-07, 21:04

I thought we created a lot of good chances, probably more than the CIS Final. How Combe saved Hoggs' header, I don't know. He's come on amazingly well since that dire game against ICT. But we really miss the guile and physical presence of Killen in the box. Petrie has to be willing to pay attractive wages for the key positions of centre forward and goalie, or we will remain "almost a good team" next season.

leither#1 · 06-05-07, 00:41

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I thought we created a lot of good chances, probably more than the CIS Final. How Combe saved Hoggs' header, I don't know. He's come on amazingly well since that dire game against ICT. But we really miss the guile and physical presence of Killen in the box. Petrie has to be willing to pay attractive wages for the key positions of centre forward and goalie, or we will remain "almost a good team" next season.

except for his throw out last week against aberdeen

deano6-2 · 06-05-07, 05:13

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05-05-07, 17:26	#2
Laughlan A True Gadgie/Gadgess Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2,204 My Mood: Thanks: 144 Thanked 25 Times in 23 Posts Rep Power: 6	Re: Hibs vs Killie IMO Jones looked lost today. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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leither#1 Radge Hibby Leither Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Leith Age: 27 Posts: 1,078 My Mood: Thanks: 19 Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts Rep Power: 4	Re: Hibs vs Killie thought we played ok combe had a great game we need somone who can put the ball in the back of the net though __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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HIBEESCRAN Toddler Radge Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the sticks Posts: 134 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 3	Re: Hibs vs Killie one error at back for killie goal,we played some good footie young lads done well the players we rely on didn't perform,combe had a blinder. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. GON THECABBAGE

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Greenmachine A True Gadgie/Gadgess Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Edinburgh Age: 43 Posts: 4,565 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Rep Power: 11	Re: Hibs vs Killie The game was an exact replica of the semi final replay. Killie sat in and defended, Hibs missed chances, and lost 1-0 to a poor team. This is what we are in for on a more regular basis next season unless the manager can bring in decent players, and get the dressing room behind him again. 1/ Benji and Fletcher cannot play together up front. They are both very good players, but they are too lightweight and neither can hold the ball up. Either would score 15-20 a season playing alongside a good target man. 2/ Too many players looked like they were going through the motions today, and simply couldn't be bothered. No question in my mind that the dressing room problems have cost Hibs a cup final place and a decent end to the season. 3/ Dean Shiels played well, as did Whittaker, Stevenson and Hogg. 4/ Murphy looked pissed off, and couldn't wait to get off the pitch when he was subbed. I don't get the impression he gets on too well with JC. 5/ Alan Combe was man of the match. His saves were tremendous, and ensured a Killie win. If he was a bit more consistent he would be an ideal keeper for Hibs. 6/ Damon Gray should have been on much earlier. He can take a half-chance in the box which seems to be beyond a lot of our players. 7/ Our tactics at free-kicks and corners are a joke. This worries me with regard to what sort of training the players are doing during the week. 8/ After last weeks excellent showing, we are back down to earth today. So many youngsters in the team means inconsistency. As I have said before, if JC is not given the backing by the board to bring in some decent experinced pros, we can look forward to games like today happening regularly next season. __________________ Today is a gift, that's why it's called the present.

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TranentHibee Rant In E-Minor Radge Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Tranent Age: 23 Posts: 1,654 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 5	Hibs vs Killie Thoughts? We didnt play too bad but the result is a load of Colin Nish.

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HibeeJibee A True Gadgie/Gadgess Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 4	Re: Hibs vs Killie Not sure why Chisholm wasn't subbed early in the second half, he committed nothing. Similarly with Benji, he is lightweight, useless in the air again, refuses to hit the ball unless he's walked it around three people and stopped to admire the view, and IMO doesn't pass it enough OR shoot early enough. Fletcher was OK, Shields was OK, Stevenson a bit off the boil too. Whittaker played well. I felt most of the team were out for an easy wander, which is shocking - there is sizeable (nearly or maybe just into six figures) prize money through the league up for grabs by finishing 5th instead of 6th - there is also the pride of the fans. I felt only Shiels and Fletcher and Whittaker, maybe McCann in Chisholm in first half, had any determined spirit. My real concern for next season is we will not replace the quality leaving. Collins says we will sign 4 players, including a goalie - even presuming we also get a mid, a striker and a RB/LB we will be fighting to stay where we are, never mind improving.

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HibeeJibee A True Gadgie/Gadgess Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 4	Re: Hibs vs Killie At the end of the game someone behind me shouted to the referee to "book him [Nish] for being stupid". I'm inclined to agree, Naismith is skilled in gamesmanship, Nish is skilled in being thick.

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stevieboi Iona Street,Leith Radge Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Leith Age: 21 Posts: 1,946 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 5	Re: Hibs vs Killie Couldn't make the game today due to work, was it a case of we were rubbish or Killie smash n grab? __________________ I wana spend my life with you. Dont want to live all alone.

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scaredyhibby Radge Private Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Motherwell Age: 54 Posts: 2,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 8	Re: Hibs vs Killie Aye we had loads of the ball but lacked that "killer touch" in front of goal.Combe did indeed have a smashing match but too often our shots were hit straight at the 'keeper which certainly made life easier for him.Another 3 points chucked away doesn't augur well for next season but that depends on who is coming into the club. __________________ GGTTH

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hibsdaft70 Radge Private Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alnwickhill Age: 40 Posts: 140 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 3	Re: Hibs vs Killie I didn't think the back four looked balanced today with Whittaker pushing on and Murphy staying back and leaving the work to Stevenson. I really liked the look of the back 3 last week with Boozy in the middle as sweeper. I think that with Jones and Hogg either side of him it might just work. Push whittaker and Murphy forward and have Stevenson in the middle in place of Chisholm who was poor today Dean Sheils came alive in the 2nd half when Sproule came on and surely Collins must see a future for him next season in a forward role. I agree about all that has been said about Benji, holds it too long and tries to walk it into the net. Disagree about Fletcher, thought he covered every blade of grass today holding up well and making some intelligent runs but should have been better in front of goal. We absolutely have to get it sorted for next week or we'll all be getting it tight for the whole of the close season. GGTTH __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. BEER , HELPING UGLY PEOPLE GET LAID SINCE 1876!

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GlesgaeHibby Serious Radge Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Glasgow Age: 21 Posts: 527 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 2	Re: Hibs vs Killie Yeah we lined up like this McNeil Hogg Jones Murph Whittaker Stevenson Chisholm McCann Shiels Benji Fletch

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HibeeJibee A True Gadgie/Gadgess Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 4	Re: Hibs vs Killie Except Shiels kept going all over the place, wings, up front etc. and Craig was raging.

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maw588 Toddler Radge Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dunfermline Posts: 53 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 3	Re: Hibs vs Killie I thought we created a lot of good chances, probably more than the CIS Final. How Combe saved Hoggs' header, I don't know. He's come on amazingly well since that dire game against ICT. But we really miss the guile and physical presence of Killen in the box. Petrie has to be willing to pay attractive wages for the key positions of centre forward and goalie, or we will remain "almost a good team" next season.