Scum and you know you are

[Steve20]

Originally Posted by superbam
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I dont understand that. I hate them both passionately, but theres simply no contest in terms of scumbag behaviour of their supporters. Have you been to ibrox?

Yes, many times before and never had one bit of trouble. I am just saying I have heard about and had more hassle from Celtic fans than from Rangers fans.

[wee 162]

Originally Posted by Steve20
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Yes, many times before and never had one bit of trouble. I am just saying I have heard about and had more hassle from Celtic fans than from Rangers fans.

Yet presumably you would accept that virtually everyone else has experienced different, and you accept that as much as you expect others to respect your opinion based on your experience, you accept theirs...

FWIW I think the huns are sub-human scum. And the only time in the last 8 years I have went to Ibrox was for the SC game last season because of that. I reckon I have been to every other ground of anyone who has been in the SPL more times than I have been to Ibrox in that time period. And I reckon I get far less hassle of these cowardly feckers than others who look a bit easier to pick on such as pensioners and bairns.

If the South Stand had collapsed on Sunday I wouldn't have cared less as long as the insurance for replacing it was up to date.

[Steve20]

Originally Posted by wee 162
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Yet presumably you would accept that virtually everyone else has experienced different, and you accept that as much as you expect others to respect your opinion based on your experience, you accept theirs...

I dont expect others to respect my opinion because I know the majority of people will not. If I had said the opposite though, I would have had loads of people replying saying I was right.

Personally, I don't get the level of hatred directed towards all rangers fans but maybe thats because I have family members who are rangers fans. I can't say i hate a set of fans (even jambos) to the level I have read over the past couple of days on different Hibs websites.

[AndyM]

Originally Posted by Steve20
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I dont expect others to respect my opinion because I know the majority of people will not. If I had said the opposite though, I would have had loads of people replying saying I was right.

Personally, I don't get the level of hatred directed towards all rangers fans but maybe thats because I have family members who are rangers fans. I can't say i hate a set of fans (even jambos) to the level I have read over the past couple of days on different Hibs websites.

Steve - read my post earlier up the thread.
As you can tell I have had more shit from TGFITW that I have ever had from Huns.

My experiences with Huns have happened whilst I've been a bloke in my early 30s with my mates (one of whom is a rugby player and the other is HUGE) so I tended not to get hassled as I'm often an unshaved nasty looking bastard even though I'm a million miles away from being interested in any of that nonsense.
Worst was getting showered with rubbish at Ibrox from the top tier of the Broomloan and getting hit with a cup of piss also thrown from there (how charming!). Been a few times I've walked back to the car with my mates after Hun games home and away and chatted away with Huns no bother - unfortunately there will always be cases where somebody spoils it and causes hassle.

Most of the moron element of the Hun support are cowards as you can tell from SKII's post. Women and wee kids - that's about their level and its the same for TGFITW moron element except they are just criminally stupid as well as being cowards.

[egb_hibs]

here is a simple test. if you had to walk through the home support at parkhead or ibrox wearing a hibs shirt, which would you choose?

[Forzahibs]

Originally Posted by egb_hibs
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here is a simple test. if you had to walk through the home support at parkhead or ibrox wearing a hibs shirt, which would you choose?

The yellow carlsberg away one

[*chops]

Originally Posted by Forzahibs
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The yellow carlsberg away one

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In response to egb's question - Celtic, without a shadow of a doubt. Even if only because they seem to have this view of Hibs as their wee Catholic cousins.

[SKII]

Originally Posted by egb_hibs
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here is a simple test. if you had to walk through the home support at parkhead or ibrox wearing a hibs shirt, which would you choose?

Playing Devil's Advocate here - if you were an ordinary minding yer own business Yam visiting Glasgow which ground do you reckon you might fear more?
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I had a 60 year old colleague at an old job of mine who went to Darkheid to support his daft Yam team and was set upon just walking along the road from his car by a couple of tanked up Celtic fans who decided to randomly assault any Hearts fan in the wrong place at the wrong time. They broke the nose of my colleague, kicked him to the ground and nobody came to his aid, until another group of younger hearts fans came round the corner and saw what was happening.

If you asked this decent, quiet ( if misguided about football) man which team are the worst, it would be a no brainer.

We and many ordinary Hearts fans - not their mini-Hun fringe faction obviously - are simply victims of being the "wrong" sort as far as either OF faction are concerned. They desperately wish to see us as mini-thems - and on the whole we are not, neither us or most of the deluded Lithuanian crew. We really just don't care about their sad obsession with politics and religion.

Personally, I have been to both grounds travelling on my own and only had grief at Greyskull. But then, wearing a green and white bar scarf along London Road in either city is likely to make you a target...
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[egb_hibs]

hearts and celtic is not comparable to hibs and rangers. they very much have a specific grudge thing going on, a bit like aberdeen v rangers was for many years.

this goes back to the 80s (including a contribution from sir albert kidd
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) but seems to have got worse lately, and hearts, from what i can gather, very much take the view that any celtic fan is fair game, and if anything bear responsibility for recent escalations.

[Pilrig]

Unfair to compare neanderthals to the huns.
On a serious note, the Sash was belted oot in the south stand on Saturday. Did the embra polis take any action against the chanters ?
I presume the SFA would have an observer at this game, unless he's corn beef he'll have heard the ditty. will it be in his report of the game. Subsequmtly will the SFA take action against RFC, or if they prefer to be their usual spineless selves, they could always alert UEFA, whom, despite their numerous faults, are at least prepared to take action against sectarian abuse.

[cavalier]

Originally Posted by Pilrig
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Unfair to compare neanderthals to the huns.
On a serious note, the Sash was belted oot in the south stand on Saturday. Did the embra polis take any action against the chanters ?
I presume the SFA would have an observer at this game, unless he's corn beef he'll have heard the ditty. will it be in his report of the game. Subsequmtly will the SFA take action against RFC, or if they prefer to be their usual spineless selves, they could always alert UEFA, whom, despite their numerous faults, are at least prepared to take action against sectarian abuse.

Don't think they consider the sash as a sectarian tune Pilrig.

[1875]

Originally Posted by cavalier
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Don't think they consider the sash as a sectarian tune Pilrig.

But the rousing cry of 'Fuck the Pope' at the end of that song most certainly is.

[Smurf]

They are the same. No difference.

The only difference is that as Hibby's an element of the Celtic support find us ok as we are - to quote what the Celtic fan in the terracing standing next to me said when the CS Gas incident took place in 1987 - "All Papes together..".

Therefore it's 'easier' for us as Hibby's but that IMO shouldn't reflect on there being any real difference.

From what Yams tell me it's the same with the Yams with the Huns.

Both Scum. No difference.

However, whoever said that it's worse at Celtic than Rangers...
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[egb_hibs]

Originally Posted by Smurf
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They are the same. No difference.

The only difference is that as Hibby's an element of the Celtic support find us ok as we are - to quote what the Celtic fan in the terracing standing next to me said when the CS Gas incident took place in 1987 - "All Papes together..".

Therefore it's 'easier' for us as Hibby's but that IMO shouldn't reflect on there being any real difference.

From what Yams tell me it's the same with the Yams with the Huns.

Both Scum. No difference.

However, whoever said that it's worse at Celtic than Rangers...
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I'm sorry. I don't buy this moral equivalence. I know you'll accuse me of favouring celtic, but I'm not, I'm calling it as I see it.

I'd rather walk past parkhead in a dunfy, motherwell, dundee, aberdeen, st mirren etc etc strip than walk past ibrox in the same. i'd rather be an english person attending a pre season against celtic at my home ground, than against rangers. i'd rather be the resident of a foreign town, with celtic visiting than rangers. and on and on. none of this is anything to do with 'all papes together'.

celtic are full of shite with their GFITW self love, but they are not the same as rangers. they possess their reequisite share of schemies and radges as would befit the social demographics of their support, but rangers have way more of their fair share and are much more vicious. it has ever been thus.

i bet you if you polled the supporters of most clubs, ibrox would be on their list of worst place to go, way ahead of CP.

[jakki]

I was at the game on Saturday in the West Stand and heard the announcement about sectarian songs loud and clear.

I was in the South Stand at the Gretna game and could not decypher one word that was announced .

Surely, Hibs should sort out their tannoy system, give the warning in the hearing of away supporters and insist that, as they are paying L&B finest to do the job that they are paying for, that the L&B do that job. ARREST THE MAJORITY

[Pilrig]

Originally Posted by cavalier
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Don't think they consider the sash as a sectarian tune Pilrig.

In that case they probably think 2=2 = 5.

If the SFA don't do anything about these tnucs, I wonder if a private individual could alert UEFA ?
Moonbeam and his pals laugh at the SFA, it was only when UEFA threatened sanctions that they shit themselves.

[PaddyBarry]

Honestly think the best way to sort this out is to reduce Rangers allocation to, at most, half of the South Stand, and, at least, a quarter such as the likes of Motherwell get. The fewer of them to police, the better for all concerned.

Cheers

[Pilrig]

Originally Posted by PaddyBarry
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Honestly think the best way to sort this out is to reduce Rangers allocation to, at most, half of the South Stand, and, at least, a quarter such as the likes of Motherwell get. The fewer of them to police, the better for all concerned.

Cheers

Perhaps Hibs could follow the example of Sir Moonbeam a few years back, when he didn't give Smellic fans any tickets for an OF game at Ibrox, following damaged seats in a previous rantic clash. It's debatable whether Hibs could sell out the game on their own, depending on the form book at the time, and that may put RP against the idea.

[Tibs]

Originally Posted by Pilrig
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In that case they probably think 2=2 = 5.

If the SFA don't do anything about these tnucs, I wonder if a private individual could alert UEFA ?
Moonbeam and his pals laugh at the SFA, it was only when UEFA threatened sanctions that they shit themselves.

could be wrong but I think the only song that is sectarian (according to the law) is Hello, hello

[Dr Shrink]

Originally Posted by Tibs
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could be wrong but I think the only song that is sectarian (according to the law) is Hello, hello

What?

I'm going to stop singing it then.

Seemed a harmless little ditty too.

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Hello, hello, who's your lady friend,
Who's that little lady by your side
I've seen you with a girl or two
Oh, oh, oh, I am surprised at you
Hello, hello, what's your little game
Don't you think your ways you ought to mend.
It isn't the girl I saw you with last Friday,
Who, who, who's your lady friend.


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