Should we blame Marshall?

[tam4hibs]

Looking at the amount of goalkeepers f*ck ups - not just one keeper, but three! Should we then begin to look at the goalkeeping coach?

I would normally say no - but basics such as positioning from various keepers at free kicks etc have been nothing short of a joke.

Mcneil is good for a number two - lets no forget hes more than a decade off a typical keepers peak - but we have to look at another keeper. Anybody with experience, DeVries has been mentioned?

But ironic today- after seriously struggling for goals since the cup final, then we score three and still fail to win.
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[GlesgaeHibby]

Marshall has to go, just after the 3rd goal today collins gave him a bollocking and he dissapeared doon the tunnel.
Now after the previous huns game, marshall should have been working on free kicks like that with ALL the goalkeepers, either he hasn't properly done that or Andy just genuinely made bad judgement calls.
Either was it has to be bye bye marshall

[tam4hibs]

I think since he came on board our goalkeeping scenario has got worse.

Anybody agree?

An absolute joke - didnt he come out last time and defend brown by saying his positioning was ok? Makes you realise how good Anderson was... where is he these days?

[jakey boy]

Originally Posted by tam4hibs
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I think since he came on board our goalkeeping scenario has got worse.

Anybody agree?

An absolute joke - didnt he come out last time and defend brown by saying his positioning was ok? Makes you realise how good Anderson was... where is he these days?

saved me writing the post. do they watch dvd's of previous games??

mcneil is a young lad and in time i think he can do us a job but imo he would benefit from being understudy to a keeper with a bit of experince.
as pointed out in another thread (poss by greenmachine ) a good keeper will gain you between 12-15 points per season

[16StMarysStreet]

Originally Posted by jakey boy
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saved me writing the post.

Snap !

That was the first thing on my mind as I was walking out of ER today. Having one goalkeeper who cant stand in the right place at a free kick is bad. Having two is plain wrong. Having three is simply bad coaching.

What is it about ex goalkeepers automatically becoming coaches, as Marshall was an average goalkeeper at best and is quite clearly a rank rotten coach. I would honestly rather see him go than Malkowski.

[greencol]

We should sign Combe!!!!


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[Forzahibs]

Originally Posted by greencol
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We should sign Combe!!!!


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Well his distribution is superb
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[greencol]

Originally Posted by Forzahibs
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Well his distribution is superb
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Bear with me Forza. I'm searching youtube for JJs reaction to it
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[Forzahibs]

Originally Posted by greencol
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Bear with me Forza. I'm searching youtube for JJs reaction to it
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I'd suspect he'd be unhappy but hey i'm happy to be proved wrong
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[JamieHibby]

Originally Posted by tam4hibs
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Looking at the amount of goalkeepers f*ck ups - not just one keeper, but three! Should we then begin to look at the goalkeeping coach?

I would normally say no - but basics such as positioning from various keepers at free kicks etc have been nothing short of a joke.

Mcneil is good for a number two - lets no forget hes more than a decade off a typical keepers peak - but we have to look at another keeper. Anybody with experience, DeVries has been mentioned?

But ironic today- after seriously struggling for goals since the cup final, then we score three and still fail to win.
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I tend to agree, can't be a coincidence surely that the mistakes when they happen seem to be the same ones.

I remember after Brown made an erse of the first against the Huns in the last game Marshall said his positioning was good
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he was at his back post on the 6yrd line leaving the entire goal wide open, what was good about that positioning

We may not have had the best goalkeepers recently but when three different keeper continually make the same basic mistakes with their positioning at set pieces it leads me to think that the problem lies in what they are being taught.



Marshall
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[Dub]

Originally Posted by JamieHibby
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I tend to agree, can't be a coincidence surely that the mistakes when they happen seem to be the same ones.

I remember after Brown made an erse of the first against the Huns in the last game Marshall said his positioning was good
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he was at his back post on the 6yrd line leaving the entire goal wide open, what was good about that positioning

We may not have had the best goalkeepers recently but when three different keeper continually make the same basic mistakes with their positioning at set pieces it leads me to think that the problem lies in what they are being taught.



Marshall
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I'm pretty sure I mentioned this in a post on another thread. If all the golaies make the same basic errors then the blame shirley must fall on the goalkeeping coach. Get him to fuk
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[Smurf]

He was sitting beside Strachan and GJP in the stand yesterday...

Maybe he was promoting the Old Firm for Setanta again..
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[secallen]

Originally Posted by 16StMarysStreet
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Snap !

That was the first thing on my mind as I was walking out of ER today. Having one goalkeeper who cant stand in the right place at a free kick is bad. Having two is plain wrong. Having three is simply bad coaching.

What is it about ex goalkeepers automatically becoming coaches, as Marshall was an average goalkeeper at best and is quite clearly a rank rotten coach. I would honestly rather see him go than Malkowski.

Also explains why Malkowski is now a f***ing hero at Gretna!!
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[SPorter]

I agree that we've been losing too many goals from free kicks but am I the only one on here who thinks Adam's second free kick yesterday was a good goal? Had a Hibs player scored it we would have been raving about it for weeks. Maybe McNeil's positioning could've been better but you can always find fault. Maybe we should have closed down Foster a bit faster last week and maybe the Rangers defence should have come out towards McCann a bit quicker. First goal though.
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I don't mean to knock McNeil but we need to try and find someone who is more solid and experienced.

[dazzamc7]

Apparently apart from Celtic, we have conceded the least amount of goals from dead ball situations in the league (was in the evening news last week)

And about Adams free kick yes it was a great free kick but you KNEW he was going to do that, the whole ground knew he was, WHY NOT HAVE A BIGGER WALL OR PUT SOMEONE ON THE POST!?!?!? Collins was going mental after the goal at McNeil because of his ridiculously poor organization of his wall (see the highlights its basically saying 'put the ball here')

And on Marshall, he must be culpable for some of it. Because the positioning of all our goalkeepers is poor sometimes and he should be rectifying that. According to John Park before he left, Marshall was an absolute wally!