Should we enter the Inter- Toto Cup? - HibeesBounce.com

NGP · 26-04-07, 16:09

Should we enter (If it's not too late) the Inter-Toto?

Pros
Competitive games pre-season.
Possible spot in Uefa Cup.
Euro Trips for fans.
ST incentive - all Inter-Toto games included

Cons
Early start to season - not giving JC time to add to squad and get new squad together/ready
Adds to an already long season
Costs to club & Fans to travel

**Forzahibs** · 26-04-07, 16:16

I think its too late
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1875steve · 26-04-07, 16:25

No thanks.

Christ we have ran out of steam by April and folk want to enter it again??

Pilrig · 26-04-07, 16:45

It makes the season far too long, and there's the fatigue factor for the players come April.
Nope, it smacks of desperation.
Better having a good run in the domestic tournaments without any distractions such as the inter titty. I'm sure with JC's new broom sweeping through ER, next season will be very interesting.

**KeithTheHibee** · 26-04-07, 16:54

I think the closing date for entering the Inter-Toto Cup was the day before the SC semi
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**Tully** · 26-04-07, 16:56

no thanks and anyway its to late to enter

Dunc89 · 26-04-07, 17:13

I think it wouldve been a good idea; another chance to get into the UEFA cup.

It doesn't matter anyway now, we've missed the entry date.

Dinmont · 26-04-07, 20:27

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It makes the season far too long, and there's the fatigue factor for the players come April.
Nope, it smacks of desperation.
Better having a good run in the domestic tournaments without any distractions such as the inter titty. I'm sure with JC's new broom sweeping through ER, next season will be very interesting.

Somebody tell Newcastle that.

**Spleesh** · 26-04-07, 20:32

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No thanks.

Christ we have ran out of steam by April and folk want to enter it again??

thats exactly how i see it Steve
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lets have a close season and come back fresh and focused with a couple of new faces to boot
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**egb_hibs** · 26-04-07, 20:36

we should apply for it every feckin year. it's mad not to imho.

Tibs · 26-04-07, 20:50

we should have entered it. what is it, 4 extra games before entering where we would've if we had qualified through making it to the SC final? or is it 6? not that many anyway

**Sunshine on Leith** · 26-04-07, 20:58

For a selfish point of view I would say yes.

There's always a chance you can visit a country, city or town that otherwise you just would just never go to.

Aint I right Delting.
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Basil · 26-04-07, 21:34

yes - all european games are vital to development, even inter-tattie

Pilrig · 26-04-07, 21:39

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Somebody tell Newcastle that.

Perhaps somebody is - (in Geordie accent) " if we hadn't been involved in that European stuff, oor players might have not have been so knackered and we wouldn't be heading towards the play-offs, bonny lad"

BEEFY71 · 27-04-07, 12:28

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For a selfish point of view I would say yes.

There's always a chance you can visit a country, city or town that otherwise you just would just never go to.

Aint I right Delting.
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I couldnae agree more!
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superbam · 27-04-07, 13:30

I think its ridiculous not applying. European football is what we are aming for all season, so why not have an insurance policy on it. Its worth it for the travel alone.

**hibeesbounceross** · 27-04-07, 13:39

No. Want the players to get a decent rest.

So next season if we get a team together we can fight for UEFA and get two good cup runs.

Panda · 27-04-07, 14:05

Closing date is already past. Need to arrange some decent pre season matches - a mini tour of North West England would do for me. Has there been any news on the proposed friendly v Barcelona. Have heard rumours of a game in Morocco, any others been mentioned yet?

Smurf · 27-04-07, 14:42

Yes and play the kids in the early round..

SteveIrwin · 27-04-07, 17:56

yes
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HibeeJibee · 28-04-07, 18:00

It is a complete scandal that Rod Petrie & Co did not cough up the £500 it costs to apply, even if we had been forced to pay the £5,000 withdrawal fee had we got to the Cup final and therefore to the UEFA Cup. The majority - 6 out of 11 - clubs who won the InterToto last season (including Odense) reached the UEFA Cup group stage i.e. had a further EIGHT matches and revenue, and Newcastle went on to make the last 16. Apparently clubs making the group stage earned seven-figure sums. Also - when every other country in Europe, bar Norway, enters a team - do you not get the feeling that it must mean something? Our season ends on Saturday 19 May and the first leg of the 2nd round of the InterToto Cup is on Sunday 8 July if our players cannot recover sufficiently in 7 weeks then they should not be at the club. The InterToto Cup is a very valid tournament - or alternatively, a seperate qualifying round of the UEFA Cup - and we should be in it.

**GforGallo** · 28-04-07, 18:32

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Yes and play the kids in the early round..

agree with this tho i voted no at the time.

play grof

mccann mccaffrey mcormack stevenson

lynch chisolm ayre shiels(?)

campbell gray

if we get through then great its experience for the young players and were in europe
if not its experience for the young players and doesnt knack the 1st team

**cavalier** · 28-04-07, 18:34

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agree with this tho i voted no at the time.

play grof

mccann mccaffrey mcormack stevenson

lynch chisolm ayre shiels(?)

campbell gray

if we get through then great its experience for the young players and were in europe
if not its experience for the young players and doesnt knack the 1st team

Its hypothetical mate, the cut off for applications was earlier in the week!

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Pilrig A True Gadgie/Gadgess Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Livingston, Scotland Age: 54 Posts: 3,315 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 10	Re: Should we enter the Inter- Toto Cup? It makes the season far too long, and there's the fatigue factor for the players come April. Nope, it smacks of desperation. Better having a good run in the domestic tournaments without any distractions such as the inter titty. I'm sure with JC's new broom sweeping through ER, next season will be very interesting.

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Tibs A True Gadgie/Gadgess Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,269 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Rep Power: 5	Re: Should we enter the Inter- Toto Cup? we should have entered it. what is it, 4 extra games before entering where we would've if we had qualified through making it to the SC final? or is it 6? not that many anyway

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Sunshine on Leith Time For Action Radge Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2,742 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Rep Power: 9	Re: Should we enter the Inter- Toto Cup? For a selfish point of view I would say yes. There's always a chance you can visit a country, city or town that otherwise you just would just never go to. Aint I right Delting. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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HibeeJibee A True Gadgie/Gadgess Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 4	Re: Should we enter the Inter- Toto Cup? It is a complete scandal that Rod Petrie & Co did not cough up the £500 it costs to apply, even if we had been forced to pay the £5,000 withdrawal fee had we got to the Cup final and therefore to the UEFA Cup. The majority - 6 out of 11 - clubs who won the InterToto last season (including Odense) reached the UEFA Cup group stage i.e. had a further EIGHT matches and revenue, and Newcastle went on to make the last 16. Apparently clubs making the group stage earned seven-figure sums. Also - when every other country in Europe, bar Norway, enters a team - do you not get the feeling that it must mean something? Our season ends on Saturday 19 May and the first leg of the 2nd round of the InterToto Cup is on Sunday 8 July if our players cannot recover sufficiently in 7 weeks then they should not be at the club. The InterToto Cup is a very valid tournament - or alternatively, a seperate qualifying round of the UEFA Cup - and we should be in it.