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Old 22-11-06, 15:02   #1
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Is this side as good as the team of '73

Tonights Evening News poses the question

and with a double page spread featured a talk with Pat Stanton it makes interesting reading:YAYYY:

but although I started watching Hibs when that team was well into decline I would have to say no...

as they have not won a trophy or humiliated their rivals.... yet!


anybody still watching today that was watching the Tornadoes in their prime want to comment?
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Re: Is this side as good as the team of '73

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Tonights Evening News poses the question

and with a double page spread featured a talk with Pat Stanton it makes interesting reading:YAYYY:

but although I started watching Hibs when that team was well into decline I would have to say no...

as they have not won a trophy or humiliated their rivals.... yet!


anybody still watching today that was watching the Tornadoes in their prime want to comment?
Not humiliated their rivals yet? what does 81% signify then?
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Old 22-11-06, 15:16   #3
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Not humiliated their rivals yet? what does 81% signify then?
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six short me thinks
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and in over 30 years time we won't be glorifying it

I actually thought we played better in the league game, but it's results that count I suppose

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Old 22-11-06, 15:40   #4
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Re: Is this side as good as the team of '73

I would say that in the future we will remember this period and have good memories of the football we played. Every era is different and is hard to compare but there is no doubt the team of the early 70's was`something special and did win trophies although they ought to have won more. Some great games and European adventures. In short whilst watching Hibs just now is a joy, they do not come up to the status of Turnbull's team. They do have potential to kick on though.
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Re: Is this side as good as the team of '73

I was thinking about the similarities in bed last night!

The thing that reminds me about Paddy Stanton's team and this squad is that they play with wingers and attacking fullbacks overlapping.

This is the best way to attack that I have ever seen and in think JC likes that style.

Marinello,Eric Stevenson, John Brownlie, Arthur Duncan...I can see them now hitting the bye line at speed before sending in perfect crosses (NB Ivan!) for Cormack or Gordon or Jimmy O to head home.
And Ive not even mentioned captain Pat striding up the middle speading passes around. Scotty Brown (RIP) comes closest. Thats the biggest compliment youll ever get Scott!
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I was thinking about the similarities in bed last night!

The thing that reminds me about Paddy Stanton's team and this squad is that they play with wingers and attacking fullbacks overlapping.

This is the best way to attack that I have ever seen and in think JC likes that style.

Marinello,Eric Stevenson, John Brownlie, Arthur Duncan...I can see them now hitting the bye line at speed before sending in perfect crosses (NB Ivan!) for Cormack or Gordon or Jimmy O to head home.
And Ive not even mentioned captain Pat striding up the middle speading passes around. Scotty Brown (RIP) comes closest. Thats the biggest compliment youll ever get Scott!

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erm some were long gone before the team of '73 - but to be fair the late 60's teams pre Turnbull were also a joy to watch at times (if you don't count Dave Ewing's brief encounter)
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Re: Is this side as good as the team of '73

I only started to get taken to Hibs games by my Dad when I was 6 in 1971, so I was a wee Hibs kid when Turnbulls Tornadoes started strutting their stuff. I only have very vague memories of seeing them play, but I do remember we seemed to win every week. I was obviously too young to appreciate that team, but they were all heroes to me especially Pat Stanton who personified everything that is great about Hibs. I do remember being taken to the foot of Leith Walk to see the team coming back on the open topped bus with the League Cup and the Dryborough Cup, I wish my dad had taken me and my brother to those games. Let's hope for a repeat of these scenes soon
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Anyway, the point i'm making is that until the current side start challenging seriously for the League and deliver a trophy then they cannot seriously be compared. Hibs also have to be competing and winning against good quality European sides as well, because Turnbulls team done that regularly.

I so much want Hibs to win a cup this season because the fans truly deserve it. We have to start becoming winners in the big games, and I have to say I am very encouraged by the winning mentality John Collins and Tommy Craig have started to instill into the side. It's early days yet, but the signs are encouraging.
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Old 22-11-06, 23:33   #8
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I only started to get taken to Hibs games by my Dad when I was 6 in 1971, so I was a wee Hibs kid when Turnbulls Tornadoes started strutting their stuff. I only have very vague memories of seeing them play, but I do remember we seemed to win every week. I was obviously too young to appreciate that team, but they were all heroes to me especially Pat Stanton who personified everything that is great about Hibs. I do remember being taken to the foot of Lleith Walk to see the team coming back on the open topped bus with the League Cup and the Dryborough Cup, I wish my dad had taken me and my brother to those games. Let's hope for a repeat of these scenes soon
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Anyway, the point i'm making is that until the current side start challenging seriously for the League and deliver a trophy then they cannot seriously be compared. Hibs also have to be competing and winning against good quality European sides as well, because Turnbulls team done that regularly.

I so much want Hibs to win a cup this season because the fans truly deserve it. We have to start becoming winners in the big games, and I have to say I am very encouraged by the winning mentality John Collins and Tommy Craig have started to instill into the side. It's early days yet, but the signs are encouraging.
One of the few times I dont feel jealous of the young GR. I used to stand on the teraces with all the other Hibbies and if the oppos scored two I would think nothing of it, we would score three and that would be that.

Whether the new mob are better or not is purely subjective. the young uns dont know what Turnbulls Tornadoes were like so its an unfair question.

My answer therefore after having given it considerable thought is..................
















Lets hear it for the here and now, different era, different class of opposition same mighty Hibees
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Old 22-11-06, 23:40   #9
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I would say that in the future we will remember this period and have good memories of the football we played. Every era is different and is hard to compare but there is no doubt the team of the early 70's was`something special and did win trophies although they ought to have won more. Some great games and European adventures. In short whilst watching Hibs just now is a joy, they do not come up to the status of Turnbull's team. They do have potential to kick on though.
I agree - there are difinitely similarities between the two eras but for sheer all-round skill and entertainment I would say the 70s side was better.
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Re: Is this side as good as the team of '73

The 70's side regularly finished second in the league. And if it had not been for a very very good Celtic side, we would have won it once or twice.
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I think Turnbulls team would have beaten todays team. But who gives a shit, they are wearing a Hibs strip, and that will do for me.
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not into comparing teams as it is unfair, diffrent era ,diffrent players,diffrent times,just lets see if the team of now can take us along princes street with the league cup shining out in the darkness,and they will be legends in their own right
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Re: Is this side as good as the team of '73

This current side would beat them IMO.

Why?

Footballers are now athletes..
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Footballers are now athletes..

As they were back then - Arthur Duncan was one of the best athletes you'll ever see.

The team from the 70's had mature players in there, guys in their late 20's early 30's. They were also up against a Celtic team which were still one of the best in Europe and a Rangers team which won the Cup Winners Cups, not the also rans of today.

Athleticism isn't an ongoing progress, it comes and goes like fashoin. The 50's team looked after their diet and were for the most part tee-total.
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Re: Is this side as good as the team of '73

The early 70's side built by ET was brilliant , but could and should
have won more silverware , runners-up in 1974 It was hoped at that
time that we could have went one better and won the league in our
centenary year but alas it did'nt happen.

The team of 06 shows great promise and has the potential to eclipse
the side of the seventies .

I have great memories of our 70's side , and am loving the 06 side
who are very capable of eclipsing ET's fine side, having said all that
the jurys still out on the current side , its way too early to judge them .
I hope and pray they can finally bring some silverware back to ER
This season, its been fifteen years , and that is way to long a wait.
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As they were back then - Arthur Duncan was one of the best athletes you'll ever see.

The team from the 70's had mature players in there, guys in their late 20's early 30's. They were also up against a Celtic team which were still one of the best in Europe and a Rangers team which won the Cup Winners Cups, not the also rans of today.

Athleticism isn't an ongoing progress, it comes and goes like fashoin. The 50's team looked after their diet and were for the most part tee-total.
All videos i watch of football of the 70's show an entirely different game. Much slower.
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All videos i watch of football of the 70's show an entirely different game. Much slower.
I watched a video of Aberdeen - Hibs from a few weeks ago. It was like they were trying to run through toffee.

I don't swallow the "ongoing every increasing fitness" theory of fooballers. I reckon the players of the early 70's were fitter than those of the 80's and early 90's. The players of the 50's were fitness fanatics.

At the highest levels of the game today players may well be fitter than they've ever been, but Soctland is hardly the highest level. Even the Dnipro guys all had far better physiques and stamina levels than Hibs.

Anyway the Hibs team of the 1970's played to a very high standard, any attempts to hold them and the current team against each other is always going to be subjective. Hopefully the current team will actually achieve something concrete.
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