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***wee 162*** · 06-11-06, 19:21

Heard a few folk commenting that Collins will have to make a big decision about Zibby, and it got me wondering. Is it really a big decision to drop someone who is patently costing you points, is causing his defenders nerves to be shredded every time the ball is anywhere near the box, and causes the fans to get even more nervous than the defenders? IMO it's not a big decision, it just simply one that has to be made.

The options as far as I can see are; a) persist with Zibby till the transfer window and sign someone at 12:01am on January 1st to replace him. b) put Andrew McNeil in now and see how he does in the 10 games before the transfer window opens because we might not need to sign someone. c) see if you can get a few performances out of Simon Brown before January.

Option a) would be a ludicrous decision imo. Zibby has had more chances than a Monopoly factory, and he has never shown any signs of wiping out the absolute elementary errors he makes.
Option b) would be the way ahead for me. You might as well see what we've got, and any keeper who comes in will get a lot of leeway from the fans. It's always hard for a young keeper to come in, but I genuinely think the support will have patience which could make it easier. At the very least I think McNeil can't lose any more feckwitted goals than Zibby, and we can still sign someone in January if he isn't up to it.
c) He's pretty close to being as bad as Zibby imo...

***Smurf*** · 06-11-06, 19:25

No contest. Option B.

***JamieHibby*** · 06-11-06, 19:28

Option B for me, I can't possibly see how anybody could be worse than Coco unless they were doing it deliberately.

**Greenman** · 06-11-06, 19:33

Option B,

I reckon if you recycled Zibi and Brown you still wouldny get a half decent goalkeeper out of that pile of shecht
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***Smurf*** · 06-11-06, 19:35

Is there absolutely no circumstances where we can bring in a loan player before January 1st?

Murray6 · 06-11-06, 20:02

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Is there absolutely no circumstances where we can bring in a loan player before January 1st?

We can sign a player who is registered as an amatuer. Barca have there reserves playing in amatuer leagues, and we all know about John Collins and Frank Rijkaard.
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***Forzahibs*** · 06-11-06, 20:09

I reckon If Mcneil lost a bad goal he'd be beating himself up over it , Malcowki just shrugs as if it's not really his fault.
That alone would make my mind up

Greenmachine · 06-11-06, 20:17

Malkowski is a nervous goalkeeper, who is jittery and plays with no confidence at all. This spreads through the rest of the team IMO, and I have noticed Jones and Martis looking less assured in recent weeks. I actually don't think he was totally at fault for Killies second goal having seen it on TV again. Jones and Martis were too deep and neither of them attacked the ball as it came in, as you would expect two huge central defenders to do. They both failed to win the ball, and I think Malkowski just re-acted insticttively and it fell fortunately for Naismith who took the chance well TBH.

Zibbi looks particularly nervous when we are playing Hearts, and that is why I hope Collins plays Simon Brown on Wednesday. I don't think he is much better than Zibby either, but he is less prone to errors. We can't afford any on Wednesday, it's too important a game. Only problem with this is Brown's lack of games.

I don't think Andy McNeill is ready to play in the first team yet. I know a lot of people don't agree with that, but it's just my view. Having seen him in the reserves, he has not convinced me that he could come into the first team just now, and cure our goalkeeping ills. I'm sure he will be a decent keeper given time, but I wouldn't throw a young untried keeper into a big important Derby match such as the one on Wednesday.

***Brainwrong*** · 06-11-06, 20:44

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Is there absolutely no circumstances where we can bring in a loan player before January 1st?

I thought you could sign a keeper at any point in the season (?)

Bairn_the_Hibee · 06-11-06, 20:48

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I thought you could sign a keeper at any point in the season (?)

i think that only applies if you have injured keepers

is being crap an injury
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***GloryGlory*** · 06-11-06, 20:53

Malkowski will be in goals against Hearts. Pisses me off so much that this erse is still playing for us.

***kennyc*** · 06-11-06, 21:09

My suggestion for a new gk, go doon the docks, next boat of Polish due in 9am Tues, grab the first guy of the ramp, stick a Hibs goalie top on him, tell him hes now a Hibs goalkeeper, and hes playing on Wed night. Fuck, maybe we'll have a chance then.
Quite sure thats how Mowbs got Slippy Malcowskate!
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***Brainwrong*** · 06-11-06, 21:13

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i think that only applies if you have injured keepers

is being crap an injury
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Could be arranged...

***beefy*** · 06-11-06, 23:50

Just say Zibby gets up tomorrow morning and drops his bowl of coco pops on his foot,scenario is he is out for 3 weeks with a gash in his toe.
This forces JC to play McNeill as he is our reseve keeper,the boy does good we win the game.
Hibs are in the semis,our young keeper is buzzin from his debut,Zibby gets a rest and some thinking time about how he will have to buck up his ideas,fans are happy and the yams are greetin:YAYYY:

Im not wishing a cereal related injury on Zibby but if McNeill is good enough to be on the bench then surely he is good enough to start
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***jimmyhibs*** · 07-11-06, 00:11

if an outfield player is having a nightmare, you take him off during that game and replace him with a substitute. why don't managers do that with keepers?

Pilrig · 07-11-06, 00:18

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Malkowski will be in goals against Hearts. Pisses me off so much that this erse is still playing for us.

Come back Simon Brown all is forgiven (almost) . It's got to be either him or the laddie McNeill. NO WAY should ZM be be keeper for Wednesday. No fucking way !

**Bartok** · 07-11-06, 00:49

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Could be arranged...

Did you ever see Cool Hand Luke?
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Stu · 07-11-06, 01:13

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Just say Zibby gets up tomorrow morning and drops his bowl of coco pops on his foot,scenario is he is out for 3 weeks with a gash in his toe.
This forces JC to play McNeill as he is our reseve keeper,the boy does good we win the game.

Im not wishing a cereal related injury on Zibby but if McNeill is good enough to be on the bench then surely he is good enough to start
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That a cereal killer.

***Brainwrong*** · 07-11-06, 20:06

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Did you ever see Cool Hand Luke?
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Nope, but having read the synopsis it looks good. Cannae see why you mentioned it though (?)

***GORDONSMITH7*** · 08-11-06, 03:16

Christ you lot are milk sop babies when it comes tae our goalie. Just been on Hibs.net and it's like a fuckin lynching mob over there concerning him.Abusive tae the point of being non Hibernian in my patronising opinion. Twats. Anyway my thoughts for what they are worth...... Collins as I have said here before is used to superior coaching, one to one which he never experienced at Hibs or Celtic. That will be put into place , including the defensive shambles that lead to the second goal against Hertz or the second against Killie. Fatboy Broon or the youngster.......sorry we will have tae have the Polish felly in goals. Do not think that he is bad as eveyrone on the Bounce/Hibsnet/Record/Sun/Star/DailyfuckinMail/thinks. Oh I should also include every Celtic/Rangers/et al expert that I work with.

I'm there to give the guy a chance under new leadership.

BIG G

Pilrig · 08-11-06, 07:57

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Christ you lot are milk sop babies when it comes tae our goalie. Just been on Hibs.net and it's like a fuckin lynching mob over there concerning him.Abusive tae the point of being non Hibernian in my patronising opinion. Twats. Anyway my thoughts for what they are worth...... Collins as I have said here before is used to superior coaching, one to one which he never experienced at Hibs or Celtic. That will be put into place , including the defensive shambles that lead to the second goal against Hertz or the second against Killie. Fatboy Broon or the youngster.......sorry we will have tae have the Polish felly in goals. Do not think that he is bad as eveyrone on the Bounce/Hibsnet/Record/Sun/Star/DailyfuckinMail/thinks. Oh I should also include every Celtic/Rangers/et al expert that I work with.

I'm there to give the guy a chance under new leadership.

BIG G

When it comes to escaping the rope Zibi is more impressive than Babbacome Lee.

I repeat the guy is a liability, he might be a reasonable shot-stopper, but overall his judgement - such as when to go for a cross - is poor. He was a lucky barsteward to remain with the club after his display in the semi. OK it looks like he will be wearing the gloves tonight...no doubt the y*ms will be delighted with that prospect

***GORDONSMITH7*** · 08-11-06, 09:04

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When it comes to escaping the rope Zibi is more impressive than Babbacome Lee.

I repeat the guy is a liability, he might be a reasonable shot-stopper, but overall his judgement - such as when to go for a cross - is poor. He was a lucky barsteward to remain with the club after his display in the semi. OK it looks like he will be wearing the gloves tonight...no doubt the y*ms will be delighted with that prospect

and me.....''Zibby played guitar,watch me now........' and right on tae Suffragette City...kick on....

BIG G

wehateharry · 08-11-06, 10:55

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Heard a few folk commenting that Collins will have to make a big decision about Zibby, and it got me wondering. Is it really a big decision to drop someone who is patently costing you points, is causing his defenders nerves to be shredded every time the ball is anywhere near the box, and causes the fans to get even more nervous than the defenders? IMO it's not a big decision, it just simply one that has to be made.

The options as far as I can see are; a) persist with Zibby till the transfer window and sign someone at 12:01am on January 1st to replace him. b) put Andrew McNeil in now and see how he does in the 10 games before the transfer window opens because we might not need to sign someone. c) see if you can get a few performances out of Simon Brown before January.

Option a) would be a ludicrous decision imo. Zibby has had more chances than a Monopoly factory, and he has never shown any signs of wiping out the absolute elementary errors he makes.
Option b) would be the way ahead for me. You might as well see what we've got, and any keeper who comes in will get a lot of leeway from the fans. It's always hard for a young keeper to come in, but I genuinely think the support will have patience which could make it easier. At the very least I think McNeil can't lose any more feckwitted goals than Zibby, and we can still sign someone in January if he isn't up to it.
c) He's pretty close to being as bad as Zibby imo...

Cracking post wee 162
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Option B for me without a fucking doubt.
What worries me about all this is what if JC does play him and it all goes tits up (which tbh we all expect).
There's only going to be one person to blame for playing him
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For the life of me I cant understand why we even have to have this conversation. If any outfield player played as bad as this he would be out the team faster the Ivan goes down that wing. If we play Zibi tonight i rekon that's as good as a goal start to the Yams
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*wee 162* Bounce Flag Co-Owner Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sunny Leith Age: 34 Posts: 12,719 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 32 vCash: 5000 Arcade Stats:	A big decision Heard a few folk commenting that Collins will have to make a big decision about Zibby, and it got me wondering. Is it really a big decision to drop someone who is patently costing you points, is causing his defenders nerves to be shredded every time the ball is anywhere near the box, and causes the fans to get even more nervous than the defenders? IMO it's not a big decision, it just simply one that has to be made. The options as far as I can see are; a) persist with Zibby till the transfer window and sign someone at 12:01am on January 1st to replace him. b) put Andrew McNeil in now and see how he does in the 10 games before the transfer window opens because we might not need to sign someone. c) see if you can get a few performances out of Simon Brown before January. Option a) would be a ludicrous decision imo. Zibby has had more chances than a Monopoly factory, and he has never shown any signs of wiping out the absolute elementary errors he makes. Option b) would be the way ahead for me. You might as well see what we've got, and any keeper who comes in will get a lot of leeway from the fans. It's always hard for a young keeper to come in, but I genuinely think the support will have patience which could make it easier. At the very least I think McNeil can't lose any more feckwitted goals than Zibby, and we can still sign someone in January if he isn't up to it. c) He's pretty close to being as bad as Zibby imo... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. quality='high' bgcolor='#006699' width='300' height='184' name='indecision_2008_action_item' align='middle' allowScriptAccess='always' allownetworking='external' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' pluginspage=' To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. who seek to be equal with men lack ambition.” Timothy Leary

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Greenmachine A True Gadgie/Gadgess Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Edinburgh Age: 44 Posts: 4,661 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Rep Power: 11 vCash: 5000 Arcade Stats:	Re: A big decision Malkowski is a nervous goalkeeper, who is jittery and plays with no confidence at all. This spreads through the rest of the team IMO, and I have noticed Jones and Martis looking less assured in recent weeks. I actually don't think he was totally at fault for Killies second goal having seen it on TV again. Jones and Martis were too deep and neither of them attacked the ball as it came in, as you would expect two huge central defenders to do. They both failed to win the ball, and I think Malkowski just re-acted insticttively and it fell fortunately for Naismith who took the chance well TBH. Zibbi looks particularly nervous when we are playing Hearts, and that is why I hope Collins plays Simon Brown on Wednesday. I don't think he is much better than Zibby either, but he is less prone to errors. We can't afford any on Wednesday, it's too important a game. Only problem with this is Brown's lack of games. I don't think Andy McNeill is ready to play in the first team yet. I know a lot of people don't agree with that, but it's just my view. Having seen him in the reserves, he has not convinced me that he could come into the first team just now, and cure our goalkeeping ills. I'm sure he will be a decent keeper given time, but I wouldn't throw a young untried keeper into a big important Derby match such as the one on Wednesday. __________________ Today is a gift, that's why it's called the present.

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